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It seems that in light of the ruling at the Olympics, NHRA is thinking about using that to set the precedence. It was noted that several Badminton teams were laying down to get a more favorable draw later in the event and it has long been known that stockers do the same thing. So now that the Olympics have disqulified those teams, NHRA is looking at that ruling in an effort to speed up events. Many racers want to run late so as to see how the others are qualifying and because of that, it takes way to long to get them into the lanes. So they said they will look at the mph on qualifying runs and if they deem that it was not a full pass, the racer will be disqulified.
Chuck

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''Cool''

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And its not even April 1 .........................

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Works for me....

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Best idea I've heard in a while. Maybe 1/8 th mile times will be next.

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They started earlier than scheduled the other week. Super Stock was already going down the track when I pulled in the gate. I still got to the lanes before several guys!

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Give only 60', 1/8 and 1/4 mile times.
This could slow a lot of sandbagging. They could still short shift, back up timing, etc.

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Art - Take that one step further. Give only ET, MPH, Win or Lose. Like the old days!

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quote--"Many racers want to run late so as to see how the others are qualifying and because of that, it takes way to long to get them into the lanes". quote--

Then close the lanes. Do that a couple times and they will be there on time, I promise.
I guess I missed the point of this...............Who cares what the other guy does or where he qualifies? Why is this such a big deal? If you go five O and run on your dial, I am pretty sure you will win. Its all about the math so why the drama??

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LOL Had to double check the date too.....what's next recinding AHFS?

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Well said, Charlie. Some people worry too much about what other people are doing. Reminds me of this time at Pomona a while back. I was getting ready to get in my car to go up to the lanes for first round when it started to sprinkle. I figured it doesn't make much sense to go up there if it's going to rain, so I stayed in my pit. It sprinkled off and on for quite a while. Then a certain member of a then three car team complained to the officials that it wasn't fair that Jody, one other person and I were in our pits while they were in the lanes. Next thing you know an announcement came over the PA telling us we had five minutes to get to the lanes or we would be disqualified. If I remember correctly, everyone was sent back to the pits anyway when it started raining harder.


-Toby

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charlie!!! now you know talk like that will get you in trouble! you better behave yourself. :)

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Toby was the 1st person I thought of,lol.

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Who cares when another racer comes to the lanes ? It dosent slow things down one bit if the last car comes up with one pair left in front of him or if he was in the lanes on Tuesday .

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What you say is right. But it's turned into a mind game. I'm almost always the first car in the lanes. It is because I don't want to sit in line for an hour waiting for the fuel check and the scales. What I'll do if I get one of these "johnny get there lately's" is go hide some where and make sure they get there first. I like what they have done at a few races here. They pick 2 or 3 cars and they are out first, or out of the race.

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in comp, they have a run sheet and the 1st three pairs are picked for qualifying and eliminations, if you are late, you do not get to run or loose.

It changes at every round and event. Atco lodrs last year, 2 racers missed qualifying runs and did not get in the 32 car show.

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As it's been stated before: set a time limit to get to the lanes then be hardcore about closing off the lanes.

I worked the staging lanes at a track in AL and after a couple of weeks of putting up with the pro bracket racers taking too long to stage in the lanes we gave them a time limit then closed off the lanes. Once they saw we were firm, the problem eased off but they had to be reminded every once in a while.

JimR

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It's not all just about racers coming in late for game playing .....
when i worked the back of the lanes ( IHRA ) ,we try to have cars in lanes and ready to go so we can call another class to the lanes..this is to keep something going down the track and try to stay on schedule.........it is very hard to work the lanes when a second class is called and the 1st class has not all showed up....when they come in late it makes it difficult to get them in the proper lanes once a new class has been called (especially when you have to pair these classes.......oh ,i did not have as much help as the NHRA guys do..which makes it even more worse....(boy i don't miss my old job...lol).....so now it don't matter to me anymore..

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Some people are just self absorbed, inconsiderate of other people.

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I started this thread as a joke, but the fact of the matter is, there are racers that are very inconsiderate for their fellow competitors. Like Danny said, disrupting schedules, (even when it's apparent that weather, etc) could hinder how the day is going to turn out, to the racers that may be impacting the guy that may be racing in 2 classes and knowing that stockers and super stockers have to go across scales and fuel check. Personal experiance, I was racing in Super stock and Super Gas last year at an event and the guy I was racing knew I was still in in both classes. While Super Stock was getting paired up, they called Super Gas. He made sure we were the last pair to go down the track and they were pulling Super Gas out as we were going down the track. Was that showing any sportsmanship? I don't think so, and I'm sure its happened to many others.
Chuck

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When they call you to the lanes, get up there right now. If your competitor is lagging past final call, for whatever reason, tell the lane directors you are here as instructed and if your competitor is not ready and demand a single.

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Well,......? Did you beat that unsportsmanlike guy or not?

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At the Orlando LODRS event this year we were having all kind of transmission trouble in
our Super Stock car. Friday we discovered the one in the car was hurt. We put another one in and when we tested it we found the second transmission was locking up when shifted into 3rd gear. We had to send someone to Daytona to pick up a 3rd transmission and we got it and started putting it in early Saturday.

Saturday we missed the early session of two scheduled qualifying sessions. It was announced that the last qualifier had been scrubbed and instead we would be running first
round. The point is, we were not on the qualifying sheet. But, since the a session was cancelled, and we were teched, the NHRA race procedures allowed for us to be placed on the ladder. Super Stock was already running first round as we thrased like crazy to get the transmission switch completed and I was literally suited up, belted in, engine running and having an internal hissy fit while the guys were putting the last few
quarts of transmission fluid in. When we finally got to the lanes we found our scheduled
opponent waiting on us at the rear of a line of singles to give us the most time possible
to make the round. THAT is good sportsmanship. (Thanks Merrill)

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To answer your question Carl, no I didn't. I went red. The racer I mentioned is very well known and was in the lanes only a few cars behind me with 20 plus cars behind him. When we flipped for lanes I asked him if we could go on down. There were probably 15 or so pairs already in the lanes. He said he would be right down and then waited until every other car was in the lanes. The guy I was racing in super gas waited for me to get there. Then as it turned out, I waited for him. When he went to start his car it backfired and caught on fire. I waited for them to get the fire out and get strapped back in, even though the officials were telling me to pull out. I could have pulled out and gotten an easy win, but I chose to do the right thing. On the other hand the super stock racer chose to do the wrong thing, and because of that, super gas couldn't be finished up until I got there and that backed up the rest of the program.
Carl, I also agree that there are some standup guys that wait for the right reasons, not looking for a free round.
Chuck

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I've raced a lot of years (40+) and in my experience the vast majority of racers are more like Merrill (agree with Carl on his sportsmanship) but we all know who the racers are that play all sorts of games. The beauty of being on a ladder beginning round 1 is there really shouldn't be any surprises.