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tommycarl 08-05-2012 09:50 AM

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i caught some of the racing coverage last night and there's greg anderson complaining about erica's unprofessional behavior because of a picture making the rounds showing her in front of andersons trailer holding her first wally. isn't this the same guy that didn't come over to her to congratulate her after that historic race? what a piece of work.

drag55 08-05-2012 10:02 AM

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He is an arrogant ***!

charlie westcott 08-05-2012 11:10 AM

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Erica who?

D.Johns 08-05-2012 11:24 AM

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Welcome to last weeks conversation. A few threads down.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=42179

And he apologized for the comments. But nobody seems to be talking about that?

Bill Koski 08-05-2012 11:47 AM

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It's imperative that the never-was wannabes drag GA down to their level!

troublemaker427 08-05-2012 12:43 PM

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You guys are late to the party... This horse has been beaten.....:eek:

davidhuff 08-05-2012 01:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie westcott (Post 339030)
Erica who?

Erica Enders that is who,the only lady to ever win a pro stock national event so I am told.

Jim Wahl 08-05-2012 01:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 339050)
Erica Enders that is who,the only lady to ever win a pro stock national event so I am told.

Even being the chauvinist that I am, and NEVER being her fan by any stretch of the imagination, still can realize the accomplishment of Erica Enders and say "good job". For Anderson to not acknowledge her victory was nothing short of poor sportsmanship. Has he become so used to hoisting that Wally that he has forgotten his first? It's way past time for a new King! Jim


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blkjack 08-05-2012 02:57 PM

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ESPN3 streaming and screaming Pro Stocks at 3PM:D

charlie westcott 08-05-2012 02:59 PM

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Erica Who?

If you keep on showing up, and your daddy has enough money to keep Victor happy, sooner or later you will win, whether you are a man, woman or a trained monkey. If Dave Connolly was driving, they would probably be leading the points. There is a big difference between a one or two race winner, and a champion.

Jim Wahl 08-05-2012 03:04 PM

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I wish I could get ESPN3 but I can't. You can't get it in Central Florida. Anybody got a link or something? Jim


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jmcarter 08-05-2012 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie westcott (Post 339072)
Erica Who?

If you keep on showing up, and your daddy has enough money to keep Victor happy, sooner or later you will win, whether you are a man, woman or a trained monkey. If Dave Connolly was driving, they would probably be leading the points. There is a big difference between a one or two race winner, and a champion.

Charlie, your hard worker bias is showing...suspect that's what prompted WJ's comments about fuel drivers a few years ago, but then he's not exactly a Connolly fan either, LOL. I've never been a huge GA fan but I give him credit for continually thanking Ken Black for making his championships possible and he definitely knows how to work on a car.

Ed Wright 08-05-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 339078)
charlie, your hard worker bias is showing...suspect that's what prompted wj's comments about fuel drivers a few years ago, but then he's not exactly a connolly fan either, lol. I've never been a huge ga fan but i give him credit for continually thanking ken black for making his championships possible and he definitely knows how to work on a car.

x2!

C and W Racing 08-05-2012 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 339055)
Even being the chauvinist that I am, and NEVER being her fan by any stretch of the imagination, still can realize the accomplishment of Erica Enders and say "good job". For Anderson to not acknowledge her victory was nothing short of poor sportsmanship. Has he become so used to hoisting that Wally that he has forgotten his first? It's way past time for a new King! Jim


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Why does everyone say he didn't acknowledge her? He let her have her moment, then gave her a hug and congratulated her. Are people expecting him to say something every race. Also the pic that he said something about at one time had a caption under it that said, Where's Greg, he's not even here to congratulate me. I think that's what he was saying wasn't professional.
Chuck

Jim Wahl 08-05-2012 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C and W Racing (Post 339089)
Why does everyone say he didn't acknowledge her? He let her have her moment, then gave her a hug and congratulated her. Are people expecting him to say something every race. Also the pic that he said something about at one time had a caption under it that said, Where's Greg, he's not even here to congratulate me. I think that's what he was saying wasn't professional.
Chuck

When did that happen? Not on my TV. Please link me to the video. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but I saw him avoid her and walk away. I see she beat him again today 2nd round. Jim


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blkjack 08-05-2012 04:49 PM

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Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed 6 Erica Enders 3 Greg Anderson E2 ****WINNER**** 0.038 6.638 209.20 0.054 6.646 209.62


I missed this. Any finish line shenanigans?

C and W Racing 08-05-2012 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 339095)
When did that happen? Not on my TV. Please link me to the video. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but I saw him avoid her and walk away. I see she beat him again today 2nd round. Jim


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Oj-vEfnU0
Like I said, he let her have here moment. He was by his car in front of hers.
Chuck

DW 08-05-2012 06:09 PM

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GO Erica !!!
Doug Wesler

Jim Wahl 08-05-2012 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by C and W Racing (Post 339100)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Oj-vEfnU0
Like I said, he let her have here moment. He was by his car in front of hers.
Chuck

OK Chuck, I missed that. My bad. I see she beat Jason in the final today. She's on a roll. Jim


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davidhuff 08-05-2012 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie westcott (Post 339072)
Erica Who?

If you keep on showing up, and your daddy has enough money to keep Victor happy, sooner or later you will win, whether you are a man, woman or a trained monkey. If Dave Connolly was driving, they would probably be leading the points. There is a big difference between a one or two race winner, and a champion.

Sure looks like Erica got win number 1&2 out of the way.If you want to be a champion,you have to beat a champion and she put away two champions today!

Dinsdale 08-05-2012 08:42 PM

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Well, someone apologized and it wasn't Erica. Took out Anderson, Johnson and Line today so no one gave her the win. Credit where it's due.

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...izes-to-enders

The Hawk 08-05-2012 09:12 PM

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I feel like I`m back in High School! He said,she said. Oh booo hooo!

Ed Wright 08-05-2012 09:28 PM

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She did a great job.

BadBanana 08-06-2012 12:15 AM

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He needs to "get a life !!!"

davidhuff 08-06-2012 12:37 AM

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I know a lot of members think Erica Daddy funds her racing team ,but she has a sponsor just like a lot of the pro stock teams have.KLR Group has offices in New York and Houston and is a full service investment firm and merchant bank that provide capital to oil,gas,metal,mining and agriculture.

Jim Kaekel 08-06-2012 09:07 AM

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The thing that bothers me is if Erica wasn't a pretty girl, she wouldn't have gotten a ride in the first place. She surely didn't get it based on mechanical ability as others have. I guess that's the way pros are, you have to have loads of money or be "marketable".

C and W Racing 08-06-2012 09:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 339161)
I know a lot of members think Erica Daddy funds her racing team ,but she has a sponsor just like a lot of the pro stock teams have.KLR Group has offices in New York and Houston and is a full service investment firm and merchant bank that provide capital to oil,gas,metal,mining and agriculture.

You do realize that Daddy is involved with that company right?
Chuck

CycloneFE 08-06-2012 10:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 339050)
Erica Enders that is who,the only lady to ever win a pro stock national event so I am told.

When she can win about 68 more, maybe we will take notice. Greg and Jason have proven themselves.

Randall Klein 08-06-2012 11:05 AM

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Orchestrated claptrap for TV, ginning up ratings, bad guy vs little princess....don't get sucked in.

Andys dad 08-06-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 339198)
Orchestrated claptrap for TV, ginning up ratings, bad guy vs little princess....don't get sucked in.

Another person who gets it

A marketing script


Ron

gearjammer9025 08-06-2012 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 339180)
The thing that bothers me is if Erica wasn't a pretty girl, she wouldn't have gotten a ride in the first place. She surely didn't get it based on mechanical ability as others have. I guess that's the way pros are, you have to have loads of money or be "marketable".

Thats bull crap. She can drive an proved that this weekend. A has of being pretty thats a plus. That car dont take off itself an it sure dont shift itself either.

SSDiv6 08-06-2012 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 339180)
The thing that bothers me is if Erica wasn't a pretty girl, she wouldn't have gotten a ride in the first place. She surely didn't get it based on mechanical ability as others have. I guess that's the way pros are, you have to have loads of money or be "marketable".

It is just amazing how narrow minded some people can be!

So since Erica does not wrench the car she drives, does it make it her less of a driver?

So let's take it from a different angle...

How many women are racing in the Sportsman classes that do not wrench the car they drive?

Does it make them less of a driver???

How many of the posters have the mechanical ability and knowledge to setup a clutch, suspension or even tune a Pro Stock car or even type a message on this board without spelling errors?

Let's not forget that Greg's operation has at least a few engineer's in addition to the crew assisting them... and let's not forget how much he brought with him after he left WJ's team...

Dinsdale 08-06-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 339208)
It is just amazing how narrow minded some people can be!

So since Erica does not wrench the car she drives, does it make it her less of a driver?

Does anyone remember Alderman or Geofrion? (sp) Neither of those guys could put gas in a car but they were pretty good drivers. It's apparent some just don't like a woman doing well.

gsa612 08-06-2012 02:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 339208)
It is just amazing how narrow minded some people can be!

So since Erica does not wrench the car she drives, does it make it her less of a driver?

So let's take it from a different angle...

How many women are racing in the Sportsman classes that do not wrench the car they drive?

Does it make them less of a driver???

How many of the posters have the mechanical ability and knowledge to setup a clutch, suspension or even tune a Pro Stock car or even type a message on this board without spelling errors?

Let's not forget that Greg's operation has at least a few engineer's in addition to the crew assisting them... and let's not forget how much he brought with him after he left WJ's team...

x2, If you look back over the years in pro stock, how many pro athletes have driven/ funded there own teams, bringing limited mechanical ability, nobody seemed to mind. Greg is a fierce competitor who hates to lose,and if anything may lack some media skills( which I don't find). If Ken Black is ok with it it shouldn't bother anybody else. gsa612

Jim Kaekel 08-06-2012 03:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gearjammer9025 (Post 339202)
Thats bull crap. She can drive an proved that this weekend. A has of being pretty thats a plus. That car dont take off itself an it sure dont shift itself either.

Ask yourself this, would she have got that ride if she was 40 lbs. heavier and was not real nice looking? I think not. She's very "marketable". There are literally hundreds of racers that could drive that car just as well but don't have the "marketable good looks" to gain good sponsors, or the bucks to pay for it.

SSDiv6 08-06-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Kaekel (Post 339235)
Ask yourself this, would she have got that ride if she was 40 lbs. heavier and was not real nice looking? I think not. She's very "marketable". There are literally hundreds of racers that could drive that car just as well but don't have the "marketable good looks" to gain good sponsors, or the bucks to pay for it.

Are you so hung up on looks???

If she was 40lbs. heavier and not good looking, she would still be driving because of the sponsorship.

I know many are throwing barbs at Erica, however, I have not heard a comment about Courtney Force's win...by the way, she is also a girl, good looking, Daddy has lots of $$$...and she does not turn a wrench either...

Jim Kaekel 08-06-2012 03:31 PM

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[QUOTE=SSDiv6;339239]Are you so hung up on looks???

Not me, but I guarantee some of the sponsors are. Companies are looking for a marketable image for their product. If you think they are going to want their image to be a guy in his 50's with a beer belly, you're fooling yourself.

SSDiv6 08-06-2012 03:37 PM

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[QUOTE=Jim Kaekel;339242]
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 339239)
Are you so hung up on looks???

Not me, but I guarantee some of the sponsors are. Companies are looking for a marketable image for their product. If you think they are going to want their image to be a guy in his 50's with a beer belly, you're fooling yourself.

Travesty!!!
Now you are getting personal and insulting those that have cultivated the art of increasing their girt with the inflections of Malt and Hops!!! :D

voltdr 08-06-2012 03:52 PM

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Did you notice that when Allen Johnson lost, he came over and shook her hand?Jason Line never did....Must be a Summit thing.Just sayin......

Charlie A 08-06-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by voltdr (Post 339247)
Did you notice that when Allen Johnson lost, he came over and shook her hand?Jason Line never did....Must be a Summit thing.Just sayin......

Noticed that as well. Line had a microphone in his face the second he stepped out of the car. If he came over to Erica, it was after the cameras and on air ESPN interview was complete.


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