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Chris1529 08-18-2012 08:56 AM

IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Three superstocks at IHRA Memphis. I sure am glad IHRA decided to have its year end race there. Right in the heart of their membership base.

Ed Wright 08-18-2012 09:04 AM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
I think this weekend was a poor choice. I like running IHRA, but it seems like they shoot themselves in the foot a lot. Does nobody there realize most are getting ready for Indy? Next weekend is first time out for a lot of new or fresh engines & Trans as a test before (and on the way to for many) Indy. When I saw this scheduled I wondered what they were thinking.
Still surprised at only three SS cars.

Chris1529 08-18-2012 02:18 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
I guess my thought for some people coming from the west would be Memphis, Bowling Green, Indy.

Ed Wright 08-18-2012 05:15 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Long time to take off work.

Jeff Colvert 08-18-2012 06:03 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Just freshened the ole School Bus motor, am putting the headers on right now.Bowling Green,Indy next stop.I'll agree, bad planing on IHRA part.Hate missing races 4hrs from home.Was going to the Gillum La race until they moved it to Dallas the week before Ennis.Gillum is less than two hrs. Hard to make two races in a row much less three and run a business.I plan on the BG,Indy race ahead.

Chris1529 08-18-2012 06:10 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 341481)
Long time to take off work.

i agree.

Jeff Jewell 08-18-2012 11:17 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
I hate to say it, but if it was an NHRA race, at the same track on the same weekend, it would be packed. Some guys just won't go to an IHRA race. Their loss... IHRA runs a good program.

Jim Wahl 08-19-2012 12:09 AM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Jewell (Post 341520)
I hate to say it, but if it was an NHRA race, at the same track on the same weekend, it would be packed. Some guys just won't go to an IHRA race. Their loss... IHRA runs a good program.

Agreed! Jim


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Alex Denysenko 08-19-2012 02:15 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
as much as it pains me to say this after being such a long time public supporter of IHRA, we too are losing faith in the organization's ability to sustain, so much so that we have not renewed our expired memberships the beginning of the end for us was their decision to drop division 5 for the second time in this decade:(

Robert Swartz 08-19-2012 02:53 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 341581)
as much as it pains me to say this after being such a long time public supporter of IHRA, we too are losing faith in the organization's ability to sustain, so much so that we have not renewed our expired memberships the beginning of the end for us was their decision to drop division 5 for the second time in this decade:(

Alex,

I remember us discussing this very subject a few months back before your unfortunate health battle. Glad to see you up and around. I am more than a little concerned about IHRA myself. Haven't worked on my crate car since about last May or so. I may just end up selling off my crate motor stuff to the local bracket racers. Use the money to finish the refurb my old bracket car.

Michael Beard 08-19-2012 05:48 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
While the Super Stock turnout was extremely low, I'm not sure where people are getting "three cars" from. DRC shows 6 on Saturday and 8 on Sunday, Stock was 29 and 26.

Stocker 2 08-19-2012 07:28 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
At least 6 cars on Saturday and 8 on Sunday is better than the ADRL last weekend at Z-Max. They only had 4 cars show up for their well publicized SuperCar Showdown.

Alex Denysenko 08-19-2012 08:11 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 341622)
While the Super Stock turnout was extremely low, I'm not sure where people are getting "three cars" from. DRC shows 6 on Saturday and 8 on Sunday, Stock was 29 and 26.

right here michael, I SAW AT too as well as I AM SURE SEVERAL THOUSAND OTHERS DID,



MILLINGTON, Tenn. - Order after one round of qualifying in Super Stock at the Summit Racing Equipment Pro-Am Tour, Renegades Division 4, day one at Memphis International Raceway:

Psn--Num--Class-Driver, Home Town, Machine-----------------ET---Index---(+/-)

1 2610 SS/DM Mike Crutchfield, Montgomery AL, '10 G5 8.964 10.20 -1.236
2 41 GT/DA David Latino, Donaldsonville LA, '06 Coba 9.645 10.80 -1.155
3 4705 SS/IA Bobby Brannon, Bossier City LA, '02 Fireb 10.727 11.00 -0.273



http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r=100#indextop

Michael Beard 08-19-2012 08:32 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
That was Friday. They had an odd schedule there, with a qualifying run Friday night, and then the 2nd qualifying run Saturday night. More cars showed up on Saturday.

ALMACK 08-19-2012 09:50 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
I hope IHRA does o.k.
That organization is the last hope for a new guy (like myself) that wants to get into class racing.

I like the idea of 2 races on one weekend and no pre-registration is required.
Just not a big fan of the $ 135.00 buy in per race with only a $ 1,000 to win payout. (Stock)

Alex Denysenko 08-19-2012 10:28 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 341665)
I hope IHRA does o.k.
That organization is the last hope for a new guy (like myself) that wants to get into class racing.

I like the idea of 2 races on one weekend and no pre-registration is required.
Just not a big fan of the $ 135.00 buy in per race with only a $ 1,000 to win payout. (Stock)

:I want IHRA to perpetuate as much as anyone butright now the way it is being run I feel as though IHRA is a lot like the ill fated cruise ship Costa Concordia and it's leader Aaron Polburn is captain Francesco Schettino

buzzinhalfdozen 08-20-2012 09:10 AM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Pretty much spot on Alex. Went to my first and last Nitro Jam @ Martin, glaring example of how NOT to run a race. Not sure who's making all the calls over there but they sure made some poor decisions. And of course the lowly sportsman racers suffered because of it.They seem to be in desperate need of a major personnel shakeup. As you know I raced IHRA for years and enjoyed it ... this is not the IHRA I remember.Joe

Bryan Worner 08-20-2012 12:53 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
I love racing IHRA, especially at MIR. But since they decided to have the TOC in Memphis, the only IHRA race I have gone to is the Sportsman Spectacular at MIR. And even had I won, I would not drive 18 hours to Memphis to run that race! And I am skipping the points races this weekend!

novassdude 08-20-2012 01:44 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 341665)
I hope IHRA does o.k.
That organization is the last hope for a new guy (like myself) that wants to get into class racing.

I like the idea of 2 races on one weekend and no pre-registration is required.
Just not a big fan of the $ 135.00 buy in per race with only a $ 1,000 to win payout. (Stock)

If you are not a fan of that buy in and payout you better get out of or stay out of class racing. The other HRA is no better. The only place the pay to win ratio is better is the local combo races that are poping up.

Michael Beard 08-20-2012 03:12 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Worner (Post 341752)
I love racing IHRA, especially at MIR. But since they decided to have the TOC in Memphis, the only IHRA race I have gone to is the Sportsman Spectacular at MIR. And even had I won, I would not drive 18 hours to Memphis to run that race! And I am skipping the points races this weekend!

Used to be, with the old points system, you had to go to 6 national events, on top of 8 divisionals. Even with that one long haul, total drive time chasing a championship is lower now. Even the last few years, just going to Martin, MI from NC was a 14 hr drive for me. ('Course I've also driven 16 hrs for a combo race where hardly anybody bothered to support it, too...) Where are you going to have a TOC race where nobody is going to have to drive more than 6 hours to get there? Free entry, $10K to win, and there's a Sportsman Spectacular there the same weekend.

I do miss the contingency sponsors we used to have, but I see NHRA is in the same boat as well. I made less at the NHRA LODRS at Atlanta than I used to make at an IHRA Pro-Am back in the day. Things are tight for everyone. What will it take to get us back on a growth cycle?

tim worner 08-20-2012 03:53 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Maybe consentrate in the south east where the majority of their racer base is and apply more time and energy on the IHRA "local" tracks. This would allow them to build up a larger racer and fan base to help overcome this hard economic time. Ther are more racers from the east that don't go west than west racers that don't go east, if you know what I mean. Sad to say IHRA was a more than viable option for racing yesterday than it is today. They have tried hard to make it work on a larger scale but,in my opinion, time to pull in the reigns some.

Bobby Brannon 08-20-2012 04:30 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Memphis IHRA race this pass weekend had great weather. Car count was low in SS but still had a quality show along with the stockers. All racers seem to have fun. Track people kept thanking us for coming and race with them. Finished Sunday by 4:00pm.
Ms. Brittney and myself had a great time. Won enough to pay for all 4 entries. A little change left over. Went Graceland with Amy and Kenny Faulk on Monday. Kenny buying lunch. Great weekend with our racing friends and meeting new ones.

Michael Beard 08-20-2012 05:26 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Speaking of....
IHRA promotes Robert Jaramillo to Director of Contingency Sales

ALMACK 08-20-2012 06:28 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by novassdude (Post 341761)
If you are not a fan of that buy in and payout you better get out of or stay out of class racing. The other HRA is no better. The only place the pay to win ratio is better is the local combo races that are poping up.

Yeah, I have noticed the combo races around here have a $ 50.00 buy in and $ 1,000 to win.
The bad part is they don't allow IHRA cars. :(

ETDragRacer 09-30-2012 10:20 AM

Re IHRA Memphis or NHRA Baytown
 
Debating Memphis or Baytown Oct 12-14?
I figure it will be a typical IHRA vs NHRA weekend...
guess will boil down to money vs points for most.

Ed Wright 09-30-2012 11:11 AM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Actually, I am. I have not been to an IHRA race in over a year. Always enjoyed racing with them. A good friend has asked me to tow over to Memphis with him instead of going to Baytown.
I would need to join IHRA again.
If I came, I wouldn't get to race on Sunday, right? Guess I need to do some reading.

Myron Piatek 09-30-2012 11:19 AM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Ed, You would get to race on Sunday if you win your class (without re-entry) in the Sportsman Spectacular held Fri. - Sat. That is the last race where someone can qualify for the TOC World Finals on Sunday.

Ed Wright 09-30-2012 11:33 AM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Thanks Myron!

Re- entry? They now have buy backs in SS? :-(

cody pollage 09-30-2012 05:11 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Myron, does it work the same way for no box? Or would I have to attend the bracket finals? I guess what I'm asking is can I race no box sat for a shot at the no box toc?

Myron Piatek 09-30-2012 05:52 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Cody,

I haven't really followed the Summit Super Series rules, but the fields are set for the bracket cars. Using a completely different format, I believe they were determined at the respective divisional ET finals after racers ran for points on a local level at their "home" track. But they won't have any other bracket cars at this particular Sportsman Spectacular anyway because the time is needed for the ET finalists.

Ed,

They prefer to call it a "re-enty" round. The first round losers can run each other and then the winners can proceed to the regular 2nd round. It's not an automatic buy-back. You have to work for it. This is only in effect if there are less than 64 cars. 64 or more = no re-entry.

This is basically so they don't lose their butt while trying to provide a decent payout. A guaranteed $5,000 + contingency for $200 entry is pretty good in my book. Unfortunately, IHRA still got burned bad at San Antonio because very few cars showed up! But they paid.

Ed Wright 09-30-2012 08:09 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Myron, I read about it. I'm a tad slow (not just my car), but am not clear about Saturday. Doesn't appear to me I would get to run the second race either. Not by any stretch am I among the 32 best. LOL

Myron Piatek 09-30-2012 09:31 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
lol I think you might be getting classes confused. There are 3 races:

* Sportsman Spectacular (No ET cars): TT and eliminations start on Friday and finish Saturday.
IHRA class winners from the Sportsman Spectacular get into the Sunday TOC World Finals if they win without having to re-enter or can already be qualified.

* Summit Super Series (pre-qualified ET only): Time trials Friday and Saturday and finishing eliminations on Saturday as well.

* TOC World Finals (pre-qualified class only - no ET): Time trials Saturday with one Sunday followed by eliminations.

You do have to pay attention because all of these races overlap to some degree.

http://www.ihra.com/uploadedFiles/Pr...lySchedule.pdf

If you have friends and/or sponsors at home, they might be able to watch you Friday & Saturday on ihra.com. Sunday also if you win SS Saturday. No entry fees for TOC qualifiers either!

http://www.ihra.com/News/2012/09/13/1/

Ed Wright 09-30-2012 10:10 PM

Re: IHRA Memphis Superstock
 
Think I have it now. Thanks!!


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