American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Does anyone know what the rules and weights are for this race? I'm trying to decide which class and combination to run.

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Posted on the D-1 website earlier today.

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

I guess I can't run this class. I can't come within 300+ lbs of that weight. How about a .30 head start on the tree? Yeah, right.



2900 lbs = 300-450 ci N/A
3475 lbs = 451+ ci N/A
3675 lbs = Supercharged

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

I agree maybe the best thing to do is head out west for a vacation instead.:)

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

No way, the Dutch Classic is my favorite race. We'll have to postpone that vacation.

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David, did you see the update posted yesterday?

http://www.nhradiv1.com/content/divn...2429&zoneid=12

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Yes, I did. I have to say I'm surprised and very impressed. This is the only way it could ever work. It's not a perfect system but it's a step in the right direction.

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So now this is 3 classes in an Eliminator within another Eliminator?

How will this be handicapped? You qualify off of the NEW index, which puts you on the ladder, but do you "dial-your-own", or do you run off the index?

And with no AHFS in force, the quickest car wins, correct?

And, BTW, you don't have to run this new Eliminator, you can still run your natural Stock Class?

Sorry for so many questions, but this is getting a little confusing. (At least to me!)

Lew

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

It's going to run like it did last year.

If you claim one of these three classes, that is where you stay in the eliminator.

There is no ladder at the Dutch. It's an Open with random first round pairings.

The first car to the finish line wins not the one furthest under the index just like any other "heads up" race.

Should be neat. Not sure who has the advantage. None the less, should be fun as was last year.

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Kudos to Bob Lang (Division Director) and Gary Richards (race sponsor) for taking this step to grow the class. I agree that this is a solid step in the right direction and builds on the lessons learned at Indy.

3500lbs w/driver should be reasonable for the supercharged combos and 3300lbs for the NA V8's should be attainable.

I encourage all eligible racers to run this class. Only with participation will we be able to continue and refine the rules and bring some exciting heads-up racing to Stock. I am looking forward to seeing this!

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

200 lbs in not enough split for blower vs na cars do the math!

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Read through all of the rules. There's three separate classes: one for blower cars, one for NA cars, and one for 450+ CI NA cars (effectively just the V10 Challengers).

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Just looked at this on the NHRA site and it looks a lot like three F/X classes. This is what needs to happen for all these cars. Also different indexes.

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

There seems to be some confusion. There isn't three different classes, there is one class with three different weights with three different indexes. Yes, there is only a 200 lb difference between the V8 N/A and Blower cars but there is a .60 head start on the tree.

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

It's three different classes in Factory Stock Showdown -

FS/SA - For the supercharged cars @ 3500# with a 10:00 index

FS/SB - For the NA cars 451+ C.I. @ 3400# with a 10:30 index

FS/SC - For the NA cars 300-450 C.I. @3300# with a 10:60 index

This is Factory Stock Eliminator. I still wonder whether these cars will run separately, ( like ADRL) with the other Stock Eliminator Cars, and will all the New Cars HAVE to run in FSS or can they run in their natural class like at Indy?

Lew

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Anyone know who has entered this thus far?

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There isn't 3 different classes. Its one class with 3 different weights and indexes. The A,B, & C tells the officials which index to post so they give you the proper handicap on the tree and it tells them what your weight should be at the scales.

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1 3334 Chris Holbrook, Livonia MI, '12 Mustang 5.671 121.43

Chris just laid down a nice number at the Norwalk ADRL event.

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Then he went a 5.667 at 121.34 at 3600# with no wheelie bars. Think he has to be 3500# and can run bars at the Dutch. Weather looks awesome for Norwalk today and for a while tomorrw.

Re: American Muscle at The Dutch
 

Is he going to the Dutch?