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Stocker 2 09-24-2012 09:09 PM

The other -1.200 run at Sportsnationals
 
Did anybody notice the -1.200 under run for GT/MA on the trophy run?

3573 John Stock 2093 Bobby Dennis
C2 ****WINNER**** 0.071 10.550 121.11 0.029 10.709 121.59
GT/MA Index: 11.75 (+/-): -1.200 GT/MA Index: 11.75 (+/-): -1.041

Looks like GT horsepower on Tuesday for the baby LT-1 (265 cubic in. Caprice).

nolongerracing 09-24-2012 09:28 PM

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Heard the engine failed post race inspection.

Jeff Lee 09-25-2012 12:59 AM

Re: The other -1.200 run at Sportsnationals
 
How about the battle for SS/LA supremacy? Garrett Ghezzi with his '69 AMX vs. Bill Rink in his '74 GTO? Both agreed to stay in it even if red lighting.
Rink leaves 1st with a -.021 light, Ghezzi leaves with a -.009 light (guess both had too much adrenelin in the veins!). But they stayed in it and it was door handle to door handle all the way to the stripe. Ghezzi takes the lead with a 10.502 to Rink's 10.512!
Rumor is that Rink was quickly on the phone with Patterson Engineering :eek:

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
3548 Garrett Ghezzi 5815 Bill Rink
C1 ****WINNER**** -0.009 10.502 124.18 -0.021 10.512 124.43
SS/LA Index: 11.45 (+/-): -0.948 SS/LA Index: 11.45 (+/-): -0.938
Qualified: #19 10.551 NS #12 10.513 NS
This determines the SS/LA winner.

Andrew Hill 09-25-2012 01:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 348527)
Rumor is that Rink was quickly on the phone with Patterson Engineering :eek:

He should have been on the phone with NHRA trying to get some aftermarket parts approved for his car.

FLOYD RUSSO JR 09-25-2012 02:54 AM

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Looks like our Pontiac firebirds r done because of some one went crazzzzy fast to win class in Ohio !!!! Beautiful here comes 50 to 100 lbs r something like that !!!!

69Cobra 09-25-2012 06:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 348528)
He should have been on the phone with NHRA trying to get some aftermarket parts approved for his car.

:D LOL Now that was funny!!! :D

69Cobra 09-25-2012 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FLOYD RUSSO JR (Post 348532)
Looks like our Pontiac firebirds r done because of some one went crazzzzy fast to win class in Ohio !!!! Beautiful here comes 50 to 100 lbs r something like that !!!!

Seriously :rolleyes: You are NOT going to get sympathy from me on this subject. These two cars were running a second under killing 20mph. You don't think this combo need hp? The C car went 132mph in the final... You show me the last pre-2008 C car to run that kind of mph. That's enough mph to run 10.00 in C. I think the combo will be okay with an extra 50-100#:rolleyes:

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
3610 Leonard Mattingly 3220 Randy Wilkes
C4 ****WINNER**** 0.086 10.046 130.92 0.126 10.165 121.88
B/SA Index: 11.25 (+/-): -1.204 B/SA Index: 11.25 (+/-): -1.085
Prior rounds:
C3 0.014 10.698 99.48 (B Owen ) 0.216 10.270 121.91
C2 (H Costello ) 0.157 10.177 130.64 (A Allison ) 0.115 10.369 109.95
C1 (M G Williams) 0.137 10.246 116.68 0.009 10.321 109.73
Qualified: #13 10.329 NS #8 10.267 NS
NOTE: Actual lanes not known. Winner listed first.
These are all finals.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET---Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT----ET---Speed
3578 Chris Mattingly 2920 Edmond Richardson
C4 ****WINNER**** 0.013 10.253 132.06 -0.003 11.314 91.40
C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -1.147 C/SA Index: 11.40 (+/-): -0.086
Prior rounds:
C3 0.052 10.433 111.81 (D Edwards ) 0.033 10.666 116.17
C2 (J Santangelo) 0.035 10.304 128.66 (P Downing ) 0.084 10.624 123.69
C1 (P Boster ) 0.041 10.482 115.35 (D Baker ) 0.089 10.597 124.08
Qualified: #21 10.513 NS #44 10.655 NS

Stocker 2 09-25-2012 08:18 AM

Re: The other -1.200 run at Sportsnationals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nolongerracing (Post 348489)
Heard the engine failed post race inspection.

If thats the case, good thing it was tore down before a horsepower hit was handed out.

Any details on why it did not pass?

5919 SSKA 09-25-2012 12:18 PM

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I might have a little something to say with regards to SS/LA...as I went 10.46 at BIR in 'Bracket Mode', then went 10.35 in Earville, Ia in SS/KA a couple weeks later at ALMOST LA weight.

Just Sayin'

The little Voges 305 is FLYIN'..........now, if we can only be smart about it, and avoid a Hp hit. 2013 could be VERY interesting.

Greg Hill 09-25-2012 01:24 PM

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First of all I want to say that Garrett is a friend of mine. This statement does not reflect negatively on him. That being said one of those parts that the AMC's got a few weeks ago is what made that race so close. Going from a small AFB to a 780 Holley had to be .10 to.15. That's what happens when someone who has no clue about stock and super stock make decisions like this.

Jeff Lee 09-25-2012 06:18 PM

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Or maybe it was the HUGE HP increase Garret found AFTER the Carb was installed many races ago? Garret's run that Holley for a few years in IHRA (as it was accepted about 8+ years ago). Im not going to say what unleashed more HP because it''s not my position to say so. But he's teamed up with Adkins and he ain't no slouch on the dyno! The Holley is good but it's not NOS.

Tom Meyer 09-25-2012 10:56 PM

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When I was racing my car a low 10.50 was about 125+ mph, was the mph slow for everybody at Columbus? Travis what was you mph at the 10.46? Tom

SStockDart 09-25-2012 11:17 PM

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Tom, Since I am from Nebraska, I am going to chime in. As I recall, you race a 283.....Nebraska has no "sea level" tracks. Smaller cube engines kill MPH more than ET at altitude. 125 MPH should be around 10.35-40 at a sea level track. Correct me if I am wrong (it often happens....just ask my wife)....

Dick Butler 09-26-2012 07:53 AM

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And Lots of people still spend LOTS of money to "enjoy" the events knowing the changes and the politics will always be the things which upset 90% of the racers. The only thing which ties everyone is the fact they dream of being the lucky 10% next season when their motor gets aftermarket heads, a bigger cam, a 3 speed trans or they win the lottery and buy a Mustang..

RANDY PAYNE 09-26-2012 12:13 PM

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The little lt-1 's have been increased from 275 hp to 346 hp over the years. Maybe they will give us a 100lb. Back. Right' biggg

5919 SSKA 09-27-2012 11:31 AM

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Tom, I ran 127.65 MPH

RON TAYLOR 09-27-2012 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 348665)
Or maybe it was the HUGE HP increase Garret found AFTER the Carb was installed many races ago? Garret's run that Holley for a few years in IHRA (as it was accepted about 8+ years ago). Im not going to say what unleashed more HP because it''s not my position to say so. But he's teamed up with Adkins and he ain't no slouch on the dyno! The Holley is good but it's not NOS.

290 cubic in 210 hp & 780 holly . give me a break should be 300 hp

Jeff Lee 09-27-2012 02:45 PM

Re: The other -1.200 run at Sportsnationals
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RON TAYLOR (Post 348972)
290 cubic in 210 hp & 780 holly . give me a break should be 300 hp

5 HP greater than a '68 Z-28 302? Yea, I can tell you know allot about engines. Hey, 290's are a dime a dozen, jump right in!

RON TAYLOR 09-27-2012 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 348998)
5 HP greater than a '68 Z-28 302? Yea, I can tell you know allot about engines. Hey, 290's are a dime a dozen, jump right in!

well I have a 1957 chev 150 with 283 cu 245 hp that went 10.91 in ss/ma at 3610 lbs 490 lbs more than the amx . 11.85 index 94 under

Jeff Lee 09-27-2012 04:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RON TAYLOR (Post 349009)
well I have a 1957 chev 150 with 283 cu 245 hp that went 10.91 in ss/ma at 3610 lbs 490 lbs more than the amx . 11.85 index 94 under

Power glide or bogus t350 or t200 trans that was not even a gleam in Chevrolets eyes back in 1957?

RON TAYLOR 09-27-2012 04:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 349020)
Power glide or bogus t350 or t200 trans that was not even a gleam in Chevrolets eyes back in 1957?

pg

Jeff Lee 09-27-2012 07:44 PM

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Impressive! Keep up the good work
Jeff

Tom Meyer 09-27-2012 08:08 PM

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My 283 220hp from GM now 237 NHRA hp 3250 min for SS/LA in a chevy II with a single 486 cfm 4gc 50 year old carb. It has 140 cc intake runner 60cc exhaust.


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