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cambria 10-11-2012 08:06 PM

copo at the classic
 
we are getting there 8.62 161 mph

FINESPLINE 10-11-2012 08:09 PM

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Oh yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!

Ed Wright 10-11-2012 08:53 PM

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Which engine?
That's flying!

SuperCarFan 10-11-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cambria (Post 351359)
we are getting there 8.62 161 mph

Ed, it is a 4.0L SSA/A. Paul, awesome! Did you switch to 3-speed yet? Was trying out www.1320go.com today. Looked like first couple of runs were aborted. Did you spin or ??? Good luck to you and all the racers. Us fans that can't be at the races have to make due. Also, thanks to the good pics you guys post.

Superfan1 10-12-2012 01:22 PM

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Paul, I'm a longtime, diehard Ford fan; but you are definitely getting there, and you are getting there quickly! I was impressed when I saw your car at Indy, and spoke to you in the staging lanes; and I am even more impressed now.

countrypuppy4865 10-12-2012 08:11 PM

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looks like 18hp coming tuesday

cambria 10-12-2012 08:37 PM

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Timing malfunction

SuperCarFan 10-12-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cambria (Post 351519)
Timing malfunction

Glad you got it worked out.

Still a 2-speed? If so, you still looking at changing to a 3-speed?

Good luck.

boster 10-12-2012 10:33 PM

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LMAO , timing malfunction ? Going to be 4.25% or 24hp come tuesday morning. Been there done that . Great run Paul all us Ford racers thank you

SuperCarFan 10-12-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 351533)
LMAO , timing malfunction ? Going to be 4.25% or 24hp come tuesday morning. Been there done that . Great run Paul all us Ford racers thank you

Looks like he ran 1.201 under (8.499 on 9.700 Index). For those of us fans that don't know all the in's and out's, I thought that was a 1.25% hit and lowering the Index by 0.05 come Monday???

Bo, I know you have been below 8.50 with your SCJ. So, they let you run the remainder of an event after you run under 8.50 without the proper cage and tell you not to do it again? Is that how the rollcage issue works?

Thanks in advance for the insight.

countrypuppy4865 10-12-2012 11:37 PM

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Nhraracer.com has a link to ahfs
-1.20-1.249 is 3.25% hp increase

SuperCarFan 10-12-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by countrypuppy4865 (Post 351546)
Nhraracer.com has a link to ahfs
-1.20-1.249 is 3.25% hp increase

This must be old: http://www.nhra.net/tech_specs/ahfs.html

Found the updated link here:

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...633&zoneid=132

Thanks for clarifying.

boster 10-14-2012 11:46 AM

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No , I was told to put weight in the car to slow it down , If I went faster then 8.50 again I would be DQ , that is the same rule for everyone . Also after looking at the chart I was wrong about the 4.25% it is 3.25% increase. When I got hit I went 1.26 under in Charlotte 8.44@163

cambria 10-14-2012 05:30 PM

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Bo you are getting horsepowered for driving by the trailer of someone who got horse powered. The 8.499 run was a one time fluke . I see you ran out of stones and got out of your car in the wheelstand. Car slammed down and broke I called PC Richards and he said you cut the balls during wheelstand class Paula can drive it for you the next race she will stay in it only be a few bumper scratches 😁

boster 10-14-2012 08:07 PM

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Your right I was parked by you (LOL) That corvetts got your number , 2 chokes Indy and the Dutch . All the HP in the world can't fix that . As you know she can drive my cars anytime anywhere anyplace per Shannon

LMAO

Jeff Teuton 10-14-2012 08:13 PM

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You mean Cambria got it hit already. Nice. I love you Botie guys. Let the knasing of teeth begin. We and the Blue Oval guys been there for a few years now.

boster 10-14-2012 08:23 PM

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No Jeff , AHFS does not apply to the 4L COPO because they cant make more then 3 runs without blowing the head gaskets and Paul does not meet the height requirement for AHFS per NHRA rules

robzneed4speed 10-14-2012 08:23 PM

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Here is that #1 qualifying pass....

http://youtu.be/

SuperCarFan 10-14-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cambria (Post 351821)
Bo you are getting horsepowered for driving by the trailer of someone who got horse powered. The 8.499 run was a one time fluke . I see you ran out of stones and got out of your car in the wheelstand. Car slammed down and broke I called PC Richards and he said you cut the balls during wheelstand class Paula can drive it for you the next race she will stay in it only be a few bumper scratches ��

On the bumper draggin, the left stone says "Stay in it!", the right one says "Get out of it!"...:D

boster 10-14-2012 08:32 PM

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You decide

http://youtu.be/C5DriDp-AgE

SuperCarFan 10-14-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by boster (Post 351876)

Saw it already. Glad it stayed straight! Better than letting it keep going and unloading only to take a chance on dead left or right. Love how the car leaves!

cambria 10-14-2012 08:47 PM

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No doubt the Canadian curse is one me.I am glad you and Jeff are having fun again.I know you guys missed me.All I can tell you is That before Indy I remember a certain Bo from Virginia talking about how that 32 valve Ford was going to blow the SLOPO away bla bla bla but when he was illegally in my class and right behind me in the time trials he ran an 8.78 to my 8.71.Now that its clear the old COPO is a force to reckon with the MOPO's and the Fix or Repair Daily boys are all over my bow tie.Well boys bring it on can't wait till next year

Dave Turner 10-14-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cambria (Post 351881)
No doubt the Canadian curse is one me.I am glad you and Jeff are having fun again.I know you guys missed me.All I can tell you is That before Indy I remember a certain Bo from Virginia talking about how that 32 valve Ford was going to blow the SLOPO away bla bla bla but when he was illegally in my class and right behind me in the time trials he ran an 8.78 to my 8.71.Now that its clear the old COPO is a force to reckon with the MOPO's and the Fix or Repair Daily boys are all over my bow tie.Well boys bring it on can't wait till next year

Mr. C, what did we do??

SuperCarFan 10-14-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cambria (Post 351881)
No doubt the Canadian curse is one me.I am glad you and Jeff are having fun again.I know you guys missed me.All I can tell you is That before Indy I remember a certain Bo from Virginia talking about how that 32 valve Ford was going to blow the SLOPO away bla bla bla but when he was illegally in my class and right behind me in the time trials he ran an 8.78 to my 8.71.Now that its clear the old COPO is a force to reckon with the MOPO's and the Fix or Repair Daily boys are all over my bow tie.Well boys bring it on can't wait till next year

For the racers and us fans, it should be interesting in all the classes with more and more COPO's coming out to play, the Dodge boys getting a 2.9L 6.4 and a 3-speed in the V10's, plus, the CJ's getting a 5.8L, if all the rumors come true!

cambria 10-14-2012 09:10 PM

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Dave the answer is Armstrong keeps handling me!

boster 10-15-2012 02:06 PM

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Canadian curse my ***** you choked , own it . Shortly you will be in the SS/AAA and we will see what that slopo got . But before you can run with the big dogs you have to figure out how to keep it together and not blowing up .

You are right you went the 8.71 after I told you to take the air filter off (LOL) it picked up a tenth .

By the way you never show what you got before you run class . Why wait for next year my car will be ready for Vegas if you want to run them heads up ?

BlueOval Ralph 10-15-2012 02:24 PM

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Head gasket problems?

cambria 10-15-2012 02:42 PM

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Glad to see you are having so much fun having me back.You will have to wait till next season to race the COPO some of us don't have your big bucks.I have to work and support my 6 children and my wife who has been spoiled by hanging around with yours.
P C Richard said he is revoking your driving certificate after you knocked over the cones,passed the scale and got a case of canary nuts in that wheelstand at the Dutch.
the COPO will have the last bug out over the winter and be ready to run hard next year.the important thing is for us to keep the shiny side up and have fun and that we have done.Love seeing you and Jeff Teuton at the track and we are helping keep the muscle car spirit alive with these new rides.:)

Ed Wright 10-15-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 352014)
Head gasket problems?

Probably. I have seen a lot of that with LS engines and a lot of boost. Not enough head bolts, imho.

Bruce Noland 10-15-2012 03:10 PM

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"keeping the muscle car spirit alive" What? Some one has been ingesting too much new car testosterone! Even with the scandalous behavior of nhra there are still a lot of die hard muscle car racers on the track. It's a bit early for the new car buy-in guys to assume they are the new owners of the muscle car mystique.

cambria 10-15-2012 03:14 PM

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that is not what I meant at all Bruce.New Muscle cars help keep the muscle car spirit alive.When I was a kid muscle cars were in full bloom.the Big Three had several versions.Then we lost that and now it is back.the younger generation has their own versions of muscle car now and not just the older ones we enjoyed and still enjoy.It will keep the muscle car spirit fresh.

Bruce Noland 10-15-2012 03:26 PM

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Ok, I see, so you are not keeping the spirit alive, but you are keeping it fresh.

Pvt Parts 10-15-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 352020)
Probably. I have seen a lot of that with LS engines and a lot of boost. Not enough head bolts, imho.


X2 Time for O ringed cylinders and copper head gaskets?

chopperloco 10-15-2012 04:29 PM

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Do all the COPO's still run a 9x29" rear slick?
Thanks
Dom

BlueOval Ralph 10-15-2012 04:36 PM

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Head is bending under pressure real common Deck is not thick enought as I remember it is only .400 + or -


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 352020)
Probably. I have seen a lot of that with LS engines and a lot of boost. Not enough head bolts, imho.


D.Johns 10-15-2012 05:05 PM

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I thought the issue lied with the chamber design not being as FI friendly causing pre-ignition taking out the head gaskets. I don't have much experience with FI LSs through because they ran so well NA on and off nitrous and had no room to stuff a blower/turbo under the hood of the GM cars.

Is there head warpage issues? The early B-head 4 valve modulars had that issue with some mileage on them. Both the cars use MLS gaskets so that would make sense.

boster 10-15-2012 05:07 PM

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D John , you got it correct

BlueOval Ralph 10-15-2012 05:11 PM

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The chamber design leaves a lot to be desired, but the casting bending under cylinder pressure is a major issues. I know this is different but the Dura Max has same problem when the cals are changed.

Ed Wright 10-15-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph (Post 352044)
Head is bending under pressure real common Deck is not thick enought as I remember it is only .400 + or -

Pretty much what we found. One customer (not real sharp) had his block & heafs machined for 5/8" studs. He had a turbo with a lot of boost. All he accomplished was more block and head deck distortion when he torqued them. Actually pushed gaskets out sooner. Tried to tell him, but he was still in his 20s. I remember being in my 20s. Life was simpler when I has all the answers. LOL


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