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Joe Toller 10-17-2012 07:45 PM

Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Just trolling for ideas and suggestions, let's say you wanted to build a Dime Rocket, but
a) has to run well at higher elevation (most tracks in the area 3000-5000ft) and
b) prefer automatic transmission

Given those two parameters, what would you recommmend?

I have a project I gave up on and may reclaim, plus another option in my grasp, but just in case they won't do, looking for ideas...

David Lee 10-17-2012 09:12 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
87-93 mustang

Harry 6674 10-18-2012 03:56 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 352447)
87-93 mustang

Is there a down side to a 94 mustang 5.0? Just thinkin.

David Lee 10-18-2012 06:27 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
PM Jeff Interlicchia about that combo, he is the record holder with a 95 5.0


7423 10-18-2012 06:32 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry 6674 (Post 352555)
Is there a down side to a 94 mustang 5.0? Just thinkin.

Not at all, same car, different skin, couple hundred pounds heavier.

ALMACK 10-18-2012 07:18 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
The 1994 Mustang 5.0 looks like a good combo.

In P/SA it has to weigh 3578 lbs with driver. 13.45 index.

If I upgrade my '95 Pure Stocker this winter it will become a '94 P/SA car.

Jeff Lee 10-19-2012 01:48 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Turbo something. Look for Buick or Pontiac if you want RWD or Mopar if you want FWD.

art leong 10-19-2012 09:45 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 352678)
Turbo something. Look for Buick or Pontiac if you want RWD or Mopar if you want FWD.

Yes. Turbo= Mechanical Altitude Adjuster.

David Lee 10-20-2012 02:11 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 352678)
Turbo something. Look for Buick or Pontiac if you want RWD or Mopar if you want FWD.

Out of curiosity what Buicks and Pontiacs

Jeff Lee 10-20-2012 02:37 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Buick Regal' T-Types both with and without intercooler and Pontiac Firebird Formula or T/A 301 turbo.

Joe Toller 10-20-2012 10:47 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Forgot all about the 301 Firebird. The motor may be hard to track down, but those bodies are all over the place up here for $500 or less.

Bob Pagano 10-21-2012 10:25 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
not so hard, good mile high car. I bet Billy knows where to find 301 parts !

dartman 10-21-2012 11:15 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
86 c-10

Bob Pagano 10-21-2012 12:56 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
You want a REAL dime rocket buy the car Mark Yacavone has for sale on this site, a real honest dime car !

Mark Yacavone 10-21-2012 01:01 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 352937)
You want a REAL dime rocket buy the car Mark Yacavone has for sale on this site, a real honest dime car !

Thanks Bob.

Now can be had for less than a "nickel"

Not a theory either

Billy Nees 10-21-2012 01:15 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 352938)
Thanks Bob.

Now can be had for less than a "nickel"

Not a theory either

If that car wasn't in Az., I'd buy it!

Mark Yacavone 10-21-2012 01:30 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 352940)
If that car wasn't in Az., I'd buy it!

We can trailer it to Chicago in mid November if that will help anybody..

Joe Toller 10-21-2012 07:47 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
I've been playing with a 200 in a Fairmont with Billy's guidance, but if it doesn't pan out of get the HP fixed I'll be looking to start over. That Monza is a great idea for sure, alot of Buick V6 support out there. I'd think I'd want to stay away from small carbs or turbos for consistency sake, right?

Jeff Lee 10-21-2012 08:46 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
I don't know about consistancy being an issue with turbo 301's. Ask Rick Unterseh in D7 (member here) for his tally this season and last. Or Neil Smedly who won class, #1 qualifier and the event with his 301 turbo at a national event. Actually, if you think about it, a turbo car in altitude should be more consistent as the engine is not "struggling" to breath air from one pass to another.
And finding 301 turbo engines? Piece of cake. Most people couldn't throw them far enough!

Joe Toller 10-24-2012 01:34 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Ok Jeff, I see what you're saying. Looks like a viable option, and from what I am reading the motor was severly detuned at the factory for the crappy gas and lack of knowledge of how to treat turbos at the time.

That said, who is a go-to 301 guy, should I choose to ultimately go that route?

Jeff Lee 10-24-2012 04:31 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Both Neil Smedley & Rick Unterseh are members here. send them a PM. If you can't find them, send me a PM & I'll give you contact info. These are low RPM engines.

Joe Toller 10-25-2012 03:55 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
OK, sent them messages, now I ask about one other motor: the Buick 252 V6, 4bbl.
I found one in an 82 Grand Prix.

IF I went this route, any ballpark for converter/gear?

Chad Rhodes 10-25-2012 06:12 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
cobalt SS

Bob Pagano 10-26-2012 09:08 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Buy Yac.s Monza, you can not build any car cheaper than it. Its a V-6 4 bbl. !!

Billy Nees 10-26-2012 09:21 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 353634)
Buy Yac.s Monza, you can not build any car cheaper than it. Its a V-6 4 bbl. !!

Bob, it's a dualjet.

Joe Toller 10-26-2012 10:26 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
No offense, but I'd really like to build one myself. I know it'll cost more, but I have a mechanical background, and for me building will be a big part of the fun.

Doug Domm 10-26-2012 11:04 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
I completely understand your thought of building your own but how about this. Say you buy someone else's dime rocket you will likely end up re-engineering, refurbishing or rebuilding the whole thing over a period of time anyhow hence you built it. In the meantime because you only put pennies out of your pocket or so you thought when you started this whole thing you can build from scratch the car of YOUR dreams and when that's done sell the dime rocket and put that chump change towards say a nice enclosed trailer. Just another spin on things that's all.

Joe Toller 10-26-2012 11:43 AM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Point well taken.

Mark Yacavone 10-26-2012 03:23 PM

Re: Theoretical Dime Rocket question
 
Call or write for the bottom line

602-769-0346

markyac@cox.net


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