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1965 Plymouth Cars

Belvedere I........... '426 Hemi'...................................S/S or S/SA

Belvedere I or II......426/365 HP 'Street Wedge'.....B/S or B/SA
Satellite..................426/365 HP 'Street Wedge'......B/S or B/SA

Satellite (conv.).....426/365 HP 'Street Wedge'......B/S or B/SA

Belvedere I or II.....383/330 HP.................................B/S or B/SA

Satellite..................383/330 HP.................................C/S or C/SA

Belvedere II (conv.) 383/330 HP................................C/S or C/SA
Satellite.......(conv.) 383/330 HP................................C/S or C/SA

Belvedere (Wagon) 383/330 HP...............................D/SA

Belvedere I or II.......361/265 HP................................F/S or F/SA
Satellite...................361/265 HP................................F/S or F/SA

Valiant....................273/235 HP..................................D/S or D/SA

Valiant (4-Door)....273/235 HP..................................E/S or E/SA

Barracuda.............273/235 HP...................................F/S or F/SA

Valiant...................273/180 HP...................................H/S or H/SA

Valiant (conv.).......273/180 HP...................................I/S or I/SA

Barracuda............273/180HP.....................................I/S or I/SA

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...0&d=1228340129

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1965 F/Stock

http://www.plymouthzone.com/featured...indstrom_2.jpg

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Who said the 1965 Valiants with the 273/235 HP 'Commando' didn't run in D/SA.

1965 Photo

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5840/scorpions2.jpg

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Super Stock & Drag Illustrated (Novermber 1964)

Article 'Hot Stocks For 1965'

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/First-Issue-S...iMw~~60_35.JPG

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1965

A couple of the 273/235 HP 'Commando' Valiants.

The 2-Door was is an automatic (D/SA), The 4-Door (back Valiant) is a very rare 4-Speed (D/S).

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=4267

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I didn't see to many of those '65 Valiant sedan's around much...guess they were lite & fast...got any ET's for some of them.

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In 66 they apparently fell into E/SA

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And still toward the top of the sheet!


http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCPhoto.asp?ID=141514

Bill and Angela deserve kudos for their strong running 65.

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That's a nice lookin' car...

http://www.dragracecentral.com/stori...0729-00177.JPG
Auto Imagery photo

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The 1965 Valiant 'V-200' with a 273/235 HP 'Commando' weighed in at #2714 lbs. (11.55 Wt/Hp)

1965 = D/SA....(11.30 - 11.88 Wt/Hp)
1966 = E/SA.....(11.30 - 11.88 Wt/Hp)
1967 = D/SA.....(11.30 - 11.88 Wt/Hp)

What were they running. The good ones were in the 13.60's in 1967.

1967 Photo Advertisement
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9688/lilbrute.jpg

In 1968, they were classed in H/SA (11.50 - 11.99 Wt/Hp)

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1965 Dodge

Coronet..........................'426 Hemi'...................................S/S or S/SA

Coronet Model 440.......426/365 HP 'Street Wedge.......B/S or B/SA
Coronet 500...................426/365 HP 'Street Wedge'......B/S or B/SA

Coronet 500 (conv.).......426/365 HP 'Street Wedge'.....B/S or B/SA

Polara.............................426/365 HP 'Street Wedge'......C/S or C/SA

Coronet..........................383/330 HP..................................B/S or B/SA

Coronet 500..................383/330 HP..................................C/S or C/SA

Coronet (conv.).............383/330 HP..................................C/S or C/SA

Polara............................383/330 HP..................................D/S or D/SA

Coronet (Wagon)..........383/330 HP.................................D/S or D/SA

Coronet..........................361/265 HP..................................F/S or F/SA

Dart GT..........................273/235 HP..................................D/S or D/SA

Dart................................273/180 HP..................................H/S or H/SA

Dart (Wagon)................273/180 HP..................................I/S or I/SA

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1965 Buick

Gran Sport (Sedan Post-car)..............401/325 HP..........B/S or B/SA
Gran Sport (Hardtop)...........................401/325 HP..........B/S or B/SA

Gran Sport (Convertible).....................401/325 HP..........C/S or C/SA

Buick Wildcat.......................................425/360 HP..........C/S or C/SA

Buick Riviera........................................425/340 HP..........D/S or D/SA

Buick Skylark........................................300/250 HP..........F/S or F/SA

1965 Gran Sport 401/325 HP, classed in (B/SA)
http://reynoldsbuickracing.com/thumbs/0014.jpg

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1965 Oldsmobile

4-4-2...........................400/345 HP.....................B/S or B/SA

F-85............................330/310 HP.....................C/S or C/SA

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Here's a few more shots of the Reynolds Buick Gran Sport from SoCal...there were two cars built after the first one rolled.

http://reynoldsbuickracing.com/pics/JPEGS/012.jpg

http://reynoldsbuickracing.com/pics/JPEGS/0014.jpg

http://reynoldsbuickracing.com/pics/JPEGS/003.jpg

http://reynoldsbuickracing.com/pics/JPEGS/007.jpg

http://reynoldsbuickracing.com/pics/JPEGS/002.jpg

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Anyone know how many of these '65 Chevrolets with the 409 motor were built...

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/chevy/bilder/65c.jpg

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Moose,

1965 Chevrolet Engines (Biscayne, BelAir, Impala, Impala Super Sport and Caprice)

Typical NHRA Class for Biscyane 2-Door Sedan 'Post-Car'

The 'base car' was the Biscayne,
* BelAir Sedan was 10 lbs. heavier
* Impala Coupe was 90 lbs. heavier
* Impala Super Sport Coupe was 135 lbs. heavier

* Production of the '409' was shut down early in mid-year production.

283/220 HP.........H/S
327/250 HP.........F/S
327/300 HP.........E/S
396/325 HP.........D/S
409/340 HP.........C/S
409/400 HP.........A/S

The 1965 Impala Coupe #3570 lbs. with the 327/300 HP was a perfect fit into E/S in 1965.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...0&d=1228340129

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[QUOTE=Hemi Moose;361942]Anyone know how many of these '65 Chevrolets with the 409 motor were built...



The figures I've seen are:

1965 409 2828 total

340hp 2086

400hp 742

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Good Hunting........ Hemi Dart Dave

The 409 last came off the production line on February 1, 1965 - but still
a production total of 2828 escaped out of GM.

The 409/400 HP had a 'special loud noise' at the track, with big tube headers.

With 4.56 gears, Headers, 7" Slicks and a good driver (easing off the line), they were one tough combination,
and a decent street-strip car could run low 13.00's.

But the lighter 396 engine (90 lbs.) was the way to go for 1965, especially on the street.

The 396/325 HP for 1965 with the correct 'cheater camshaft' was a
decent street-strip car.

Production numbers for a 1965 Impala Super Sport with the 396/325 HP engine, an astounding 55,499.

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396 Turbo Jet in the '65 full size models...

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/che...der/65chtu.jpg

396 Turbo Jet in the '65 Corvette...

http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/chevy/bilder/65vt.jpg

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65s

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It seems back in 1965, every Military guy bought a Tubro-Jet 396 when he got of out of the service.

I still remember a dark-blue 1965 Impala Sport Coupe 396 in our
neighborhood, that the owner always referred to his car as being a
"396 Turbo-Jet / Posi".

Power-brake burn-outs all over the place, was the normal daily routine.

It never did much at the Drag Strip (D/SA), but in the local area, it was
a nice street machine.

The 'standard' automatic transmission was 2-speed Power-Glide.

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1968 Photo.

Car, 1965 Impala 327/300 HP (NHRA Class H/S) 11.50 -11.99 Wt/HP

June 1968 Class Record = 12.92 @ 107.39 MPH

This Impala would fit into E/S (11.89 - 12.49 Wt/Hp) in 1965.

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=9690

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A couple more oldies of some owners Impala's and their trophies...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...xvpo1_1280.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...xvpo1_1280.jpg

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Last year of GM's horrible X-Frame.

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And the 409,,, later cars got the 396. Don't know how many '65 409 cars were made, but they're pretty rare nowadays.
Danny Durham

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1965 Chevelle

* 300......................(2-Door Sedan or 2-Door Station Wagon)
* 300 Deluxe.........(2-Door Sedan or 4-Door Station Wagon)
* Malibu.................(2-Door Sport Coupe, Convertible or 4-Door Station Wagon)
* Malibu SS...........(2-Door Sport Coupe or Convertible)

Available with,
* 283/195 HP (2-Barrel)
* 283/220 HP
* 327/250 HP
* 327/300 HP
* 327/350 HP
* 396/375 HP (Z-16)

3-Speed Manual or 4-Speed Manual
2-Speed Powerglide

* A typical 1965 Malibu (#3062 lbs.) with a 327/250 HP 4-Speed in 1965 would fall into E/Stock (11.89 - 12.49 Wt/Hp).
* In 1968, they were classed in I/Stock (12.00 - 12.49 Wt/Hp).

* Though the 'slightly' heavier Malibu 'convertible' 327/250 HP 4-Speed would fit nicely into F/Stock (12.50 -13.99 Wt/Hp).
* In 1968, they were classed in J/Stock (12.50 - 12.99 Wt/Hp).

The Malibu 327/250 HP was desired for the drag strip over the Malibu SS 327/250 HP, as the basic 1965 Malibu weighed
approximately 62 lbs. less than the 1965 Malibu SS.

http://www.autolit.net/Graphics/0805/mw4198.jpg

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Nope. 1964 was the last year for the X-frame on the full sized Chevrolet. 1965 was the first year for the perimeter frame.

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1965 Chevelle 300 (2-Door Station Wagon). A very light car at #3304 lbs. and with an automatic.

The 'basic'................283/220 HP engine with the 2-Speed Powerglide got you into..........H/SA in 1965......(15.00 - 15.69 Wt/Hp)
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The 'performance'....327/250 HP engine with the 2-Speed Powerglide got you into..........F/SA in 1965.....(12.50 - 13.99 Wt/Hp)
In 1968, these cars were highly desired, as they fit 'nicely' into K/SA (13.00 - 13.99 Wt/Hp).

I do remember this combination in a car called "Mr. Magoo".
Ran 14.40's in 1968/1969 and eventually got down to 14.10's, and won a bunch of Class Trophies in (1968 K/SA), (1969 L/SA) and (1970/1971 M/SA)
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The 'high performance'....327/300 HP engine with the 4-speed got you into.......................C/S in 1965........(10.60 - 11.29 Wt/Hp)
Not a desirable combination for 1968, as it put you on the wrong end of F/Stock (10.50 - 10.99 Wt/Hp).

But a nice 'Street Sleeper' with a Hurst-shifted 4-Speed, 4.10 Gears, and good free-flowing exhaust system with Cherry Bombs.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.48490...57577&pid=15.1

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Nice Sales Brochure.........Mr. Moose,

The 1965 Chevelle Malibu SS 327/350 HP (Car Weight, #3165 lbs. = 9.04 Wt/HP)

Found in A/Stock (8.70 - 9.49 Wt/Hp) in 1965.

Take a basic Malibu SS 327/350 HP, add Cyclone Headers, 4.56 Gears, some mild suspension tweaks, 7" slicks and some timing adjustments.

Your steet car could pull down 13.60's @ 105 MPH

In 1968, these cars were highy desirable for C/Stock (9.00 - 9.49 Wt/Hp)

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What class would a 66 Corvette run with a 327/300 automatic ??

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Pete,

In 1966, the Corvette Coupe with the 327/300 HP would be classed in
C/SA (9.50 - 10.59 Wt/Hp), based upon shipping weight.

Along with the dominant 1962 Plymouth Sport Fury's 383/343 HP and
Dodge Model #440 383/343 HP cars.

1966 NHRA C/SA Class Record = 12.92

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1965 Chevelle Malibu 4-Door Station Wagon

Not seen at the track in 1965 too much, not as a drag strip car anyway.

* 283/195 HP............J/S.........(17.00 - 18.99 Wt/Hp)
* 283/220 HP............H/S........(15.00 - 15.59 Wt/Hp)
* 327/250 HP............F/S........(12.50 - 13.99 Wt/Hp)
* 327/300 HP............C/S.......(10.60 - 11.29 Wt/Hp)
* 327/350 HP............B/S.........(9.50 - 10.59 Wt/Hp)

Even available with the 327/350 HP engine. How many B/Stock - 327/350 HP - 4-Speed - Station Wagons in 1965.

http://carphotos.oldride.com/gallery/781762050930.jpg

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Paul, actually I've seen lots of '64 & '65 Chevelle/Malibu 2 door & 4 door station wagons that were used back then...here's a couple shots of one.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...5&d=1305592485

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...4&d=1305592485

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A probably the the coolest ones ever built in my opinion...the 1965 SS396 Chevelle Z16.

http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/membe...969/image1.jpg

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A huge waste of a Z/16 Chevelle:

http://www.bangshift.com/assets/imag...kMcclure03.jpg

http://i978.photobucket.com/albums/a...lle/img027.jpg
http://www.autickar.cz/wp-content/up...-drag-axle.jpg

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The 1965 Chevelle 4-Door Station Wagons (#3420 lbs.) started to become popular
at the drag strips in 1968, when the NHRA re-set the class breaks.

I believe the 327/300 HP 'automatic' cars fell nicely into (11.00 - 11.49 Wt/Hp) 1968.

1968.......G/SA
1969........H/SA
1970........ I/SA
1971.........I/SA

Then the later NHRA Horsepower Changes

* 283/220........235 HP.......SS/PA
* 327/250........265 HP.......SS/NA
* 327/300........280 HP.......SS/MA

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How popular was the 1965 Chevelle 4-Door 327/250 HP Station Wagon in 1979.

A much desired combination, even after the NHRA re-factored them to 265 HP.

Joe Kenney, the 1979 and 1980 Sportsnationals Super/Stock Winner.

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...2bd670f7bd3bed

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1965 Chevelle Malibu SS396 'Z-16'

* Only 201 built

396/375 HP....Code #L-37 Engine

Car Weight.......#3262 lbs.

* Holley #3310 - 750 CFM Carburetor
* Aluminum Dual-Plane High-Rise Intake
* Rectangular Port Cylinder Heads
* .461 / .500 Lift - Hydraulic Camshaft
* 4-Bolt Main Block
* 11.0 to 1 Forged Pistons
* Forged Crankshaft
* 4-Speed Manual Transmission (Only)
* 12-Bolt Rear

1965 = A/Stock

Though a desirable car for A/Stock in 1965, not so much in Stock Class in later years.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.48963...41302&pid=15.1