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Just saw on NHRA Racer where the entry went up another $5. Still $210 but now $100 for insurance. I'm sure hope the Sportnationals are still $210. Wonder if div entries are going to go up too?

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Steve don't give them any idea lol.

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And I BET our payouts have not increased TEN CENTS! $0.10 in 2013

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How come in years past payouts in s/ ss were higher ,i herd a diamond p video once and RIP steve evans was calling a$8,000 to win ss final .what happend

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LOL.....keep on paying out the nose !

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That would have included contingency I'm sure.
Chuck

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They're making bracket racing look better all the time...beginning to think that local tracks need support more than NHRA. Funding the JFR/DSR jaggernaut isn't particularly what I had in mind when I started class racing.

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I guess I missed the "press release". Apparently, the only way one is notified of the increase in entry fee is when one actually attempts to enter? I think I find that more insulting than the increase itself! My contempt for nearly every aspect of society grows by the minute...

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We will see how many So Cal guys are fed up enough to support this -

http://www.famosoraceway.com/images/...-bash-2013.jpg

It is not a beloved NHRA race - it is one of those awful bracket races
No heads up - OMG
No class racing - OMG
Just what we normally do without the dreaded AHFS, fuel check, weighing and NHRA with a hand out

I am sure there are plenty of well and good reasons not to go but not for us

We will be there (Bakersfield)

Two races $2500 to win (E and no E brackets both days)
$225 For Car/Driver and 10 Crew/Spectator
Pre-Entries Get A Free T-Shirt


Ron

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fISCAL cLIFF.?...I cant sit ..it Hurts too much!
NHRA slid it in AGAIN..x2 Dan

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Why would they announce an increase to the customer? You don't see the food store announcing it when milk or bread or eggs or chicken or other products go up in price, nor do you see the airlines making an announcement when tickets cost more.

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Good point Evan .........Plus they 'only' raised it 1.6% - $ 5 bucks - I'd worry more about how much diesel is going to cost us this year .

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I don't think thats a relevent comparison, but you're welcome to your opinion, as am I...

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I think it's more about the principle of it. Wasn't too many years ago it was 250.00. Every time they increase the price, they always say it's for the insurance so no one will have an argument about the entry fee's going up and how come the purse isn't. Never ending enhancements that we all get.
Chuck

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I haven't entered these things in a few years, so correct me if I'm wrong.
So, the events that have the fuel queers there, if a TF wheel and tire comes off and hits you in the head and kills you, you've already paid an extra $100 bucks for the pleasure?
This sounds like a better protection racket than The Mob could come up with.
This looks like a Jesse Jackson caliber shakedown...

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so insurance companys have the tallest building in the city . nhra mite be trying to match that concept with there fee's the only diffrence is one is out and out greedy and the other is a non-proffit greedy orginization

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Dan & Chuck ,



You missed the BIGGGGG Payout increase that's coming in 2015 !!!!

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From looking at other big dollor bracket races I don't think the gates will be flooded. Most races I have seen with a 2500 dollar payout have a much lower entry fee.

Good luck at the race.

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I've seen a better payout to entry ratio races than that, too. But still, not a bad deal. $225 for TWO races, each paying $2,500 to win ($5,000 total). Plus free crew tickets, up to ten people. For comparison, Indy is $355 entry, plus $105 per crew member, and pays $1,800 to win. Granted you have contingency at NHRA/IHRA races, IF (and that's a big if, lately) you can collect your due money. If you get the money you have coming to you, from ten companies @ 300 each, that is an extra $3,000. So, a total of $4,800. One would think that Indy, being the biggest, best race of the year, would pay much better than that. Or any National Event, for that matter ($300 to enter vs $1,500-$1,800 to win).

Here is a comparison, from just ten years ago:

June 2002, Atco LODRS race. Entry: $125. Fourth round loss paid me $175
2012 Atco LODRS race. Entry: $170. Fourth round loss: $150.

A net 70 (seventy) dollar loss from just a decade ago (IHRA is a net seventy-five dollar loss, entry vs fourth round from ten years ago). Motels have gone up quite a bit, gas has more than doubled (cleaning some drawers the other day and found some old receipts, I paid $1.46 for gs on the PA Turnpike on the way to Atco June '02; compared to $3.50 or so now). Toll bill to the NJ state line has doubled, up to forty-five dollars one way. Add up all the other associated costs and fees for pit bikes, golf carts and the like. Doing some quick math, it would take me about 900 or 1000 dollars to do a LODRS at E-town, Cecil, Maple Grove, Chicago, STanton, etc. A racer told me he was runner-up at the 2010 Maple Grove LODRS race. He won $400 (four hundred) plus some sticker money. Not being able to collect on much anyways, if I personally were to get a R/U at a LODRS race next year, I *MIGHT*break even for the weekend. Yes, I know we (most of us) don't do this for the money; at the same time, it would be nice to actually make a dollar or two getting to the final, don't you think? We (not me, I quit because of this type of stuff six years ago) truly must do this for the love of racing and friends--because to an outsider, it must seem ludacrous to pay what we do, to race for what we do.

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x2 mike - you get it...you said just about everything I erased - LMFAO

Ron

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I don't care if they raise it to $500,I'm not really interested in runnig a National Event anymore.Comparison ...........$40 to enter.........$350 class win.Along time ago,but compare entrance to class win now.

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A food store? lol.

This outfit is supposedly a not for profit organization. They claim it was organized for the benefit of its members. It is not meant to operate like a food store. Of course nhra has gotten away with all sorts BS over the years, but it would not be very difficult to imagine that a legitimate organization would broadcast advance notification of cost increases.

BTW airlines regularly broadcast rate fluctuations.

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$5 is less than a pack of cigarettes....

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Hadn't stopped anyone from smoking either...LOL.

Noticed D2 and D7 (first Divisionals on the schedule) haven't posted entry fee/payout structure, just promotion flyers....hope there's not another storm brewing

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So what is the average amount of entries at a National event? I would say its at least 500. So an extra 5.00 per entry is 60,000 more in their pockets for the year. Thats a lot of smoke going up someones *****. How much more did they make when chassis certs and license's doubled in price? But I guess its ok because payouts are still the same that they have been for the last 20 years, oh, thats right, its less because there are less company's paying contingency than there used to be.
Chuck

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Say that 20 times and you're now up to $100!

Nickle & diming somebody to death so it doesn't look so bad and is easy to blow off is a long standing business practice!

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Ok, look at the bright side, national events and divisionals does bring together all of your friends from all over for a weekend of fun, competition, entertainment, food and beverage ...

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I quit smoking over 10 years ago and also quit racing NHRA national events around the same time....so I got that money in my piggybank....LOL

I decided back then I did not want to be part of that circus....

P.S. Cigarettes were 20cents a pack when I was a kid...and gas was 20 cents a gallon !!!

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I heard that last year...

and the year before that....

and the year before that...

and the year before that...

and the year before that...

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Gee, I wonder if this could have something to do with the $5 increase?

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I agree with Chuck and Bob ....( Chuck thanks for letting me be in your winner circle pic at Heron div 3 race at sportsnationals 2 years ago )....Being from N.J. I try to not to travel toll roads if possible . But its time for payout for the winners to go up alittle . The bracket racers are just a differant group of friends who I race with and its still good racing fun...

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Not that this has anything to do with racing.

From Snopes: Took 1 minute.

Customers who have since called Cabela's about this issue reported that they were told the chain's cash registers did indeed manifest a glitch, starting on 1 January, 2013, that improperly imposed the medical device excise tax surcharge on non-qualifying merchandise and that they should contact Cabela's customer service department and request refunds for the over charges. So it's Cabela's problem!

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One might find a very interesting read if you do some research on who owns Snopes !!! Bring lunch !!!

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I know Snopes has a way of messing up the BS guys, but do you think my snopes quote above is untrue?

In this case it did not take much to find the truth.

Simply listening to flapping jaws repeat the same old garbage will leave you terribly ill informed.

Check this link: http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp

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Anytime B. S. is exposed the "victims" are going to scream Bias! From what I have seen, snopes & factcheck are equal opportunity de-bunkers.

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Just watch in 2 years it will be $500 then who will be at the nat events then ! Dosent NHRA see that this raising is gonna drive away racers ?