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joespanova 01-08-2013 02:22 PM

Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
I just put some new rubber on my Nova and I'm thinking of ditching the tubes. I had 14-32 C07 Hoosiers , now have the 13.5 -31.5 same compound. The car may have liked the additional sidewall stiffness with the tubes and I know I liked the fact that they held air all the time..........however , any opinions?

Thanks

Mike Taylor 3601 01-08-2013 04:18 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Ditch'em you'll be glad
Mike Taylor 3601

Jeff Colvert 01-08-2013 05:50 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Quit running tubes in 1980. Like taking 14lbs off your rear spinning or axle weight.

Eddies66 01-08-2013 06:06 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
http://www.dragracingonline.com/tech...retubes-1.html

Ed Wright 01-08-2013 06:44 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
I quite running tubes in the early '70s. Got tired of pinching the tubes and having tires go flat between rounds. The old bias tires would sometimes pinch the tube at the launch. Carroll Caudle and I both had that happen about a week apart. We both ruined tires by the time we got our cars stopped. He was the first (between the two of us) to try it tubeless. His car also picked up ET & MPH tubeless. I changed over and picked up also. Those old Firestones would just about go flat during the week. My MT & Goodyear radials hold air just fine. Seldom loose any at all between races. The Hoosier radials I ran before didn't leak either. As much air as I run in my radials, I don't even run screws.

Had one of those guys that always seem to have a beer in their hand walk by once (had Hoosiers then) and tell me "You had better put screws in your wheels! Your tires are slipping on the wheels!" I didn't walk back to check, but asked him "Is the letter i in Hoosier lined up with the valve stem?" He looked and said "Yes!" I said "Dang! Must slip back to the same place every time!" Not sure he even got it. :-)

TOSTO RACING 01-08-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
I personally like the tubes on a stick car, like you said Joe stiffer sidewalls, they don't break down as quick. Its personal preference though. I've ran them both and literally have seen no diff in et myself. Your car may be different. I also like the fact of them not leaking down every 10 minutes lol. I guess if ditched the tubes and beadlocks I might have made INDY last year some guys say lol.

joespanova 01-08-2013 08:53 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Thanks........I'm still confused LOL

joespanova 01-08-2013 10:11 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Colvert (Post 364432)
Quit running tubes in 1980. Like taking 14lbs off your rear spinning or axle weight.

Yeah , I hear ya ......I'm probably going to try no tubes.........I am leery about no screws though.

Notch1320 01-08-2013 11:20 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
No tubes here.... As for not wanting to run screws, many use Permatex HI-TAC on the beads or contact Weld an look into their Knurled Bead option.

Ed Carpenter 01-09-2013 12:03 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
No tubes

Joe Martens 01-09-2013 12:10 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
No tubes or screws!

Eddie Rezac 01-09-2013 12:54 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
A simple fix to running slicks tubeless, is to coat the inside of your sidewalls with green "DAWN" dish soap. Let them dry for a couple of hours, then give them a second coat. Try it, doesn't cost much, and sure works for us. Eddie Rezac

joespanova 01-09-2013 06:58 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Thanks guys !

joespanova 01-09-2013 08:49 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 364437)

INTERESTING , thanks

Glenn Hayes 01-09-2013 10:07 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddie Rezac (Post 364495)
A simple fix to running slicks tubeless, is to coat the inside of your sidewalls with green "DAWN" dish soap. Let them dry for a couple of hours, then give them a second coat. Try it, doesn't cost much, and sure works for us. Eddie Rezac

Your right Eddie! We started doing our slicks like that back in the '70's, works like a charm!

Ed Wright 01-09-2013 10:42 AM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
No need for bead locks or glue. I always mark my tires at the valve core. Have seen a little movement (one inch or so) the first one or two passes, then none. 14 to 16 psi. I can't speak for bias tires, but I have not had a radial leak for a few years now. I have seen guys with screws leak a little at the screws.

Dave Gantz 01-09-2013 08:27 PM

Re: Stick cars , tubes or no tubes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddies66 (Post 364437)

Interesting link, but a BAZILLION cars have run down the drag strip with no problems. Why does he mention that racers seeking e.t. are "ok" with no tubes? Think he wants to sell tubes? Can't blame him. But, quicker is quicker, no matter what the class.


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