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Paul Ceasrine 02-04-2013 01:44 PM

1967 Plymouth GTX
 
In late-1966, when Plymouth introduced the GTX,

The plan was for the 426/425 HP 'Street Hemi' to be entered in
'A/Stock' for the 1967 NHRA Stock Class.

Plymouth even had a marketing campaign to emphasize the 67' Street Hemi
in A/Stock, where the 66' Belvedere 'Street Hemi's had dominated in 1966,
and held both ends of the A/S and A/SA National Records.

The Class weight break was 7.00 - 8.69 Wt/Hp.

But, the NHRA 'flipped' the Stock Class weight breaks, and changed
A/Stock to 8.70 - 9.49 Wt/Hp, which forced the 'Street Hemi' into
Super/Stock (SS/B).

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Vintage-POPUL...17w~~60_57.JPG

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 02:52 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Here a pic of my 67 GTX http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-34-23_332.jpg

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 02:57 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-35-52_921.jpg

Liteweight 02-04-2013 05:14 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
I looked at these pictures for awhile trying to fiqure out if these pix of your car were taken in the 70's or if you built it this way recently. Nicely done Spikey.!!!!!!!!!! Well built!!!!!!
Specially like the Lakewood 3 point bar, the tow bar brackets, & front wheel/ tire combo. Engine is period correct looking.
What gave it away was the float bowl bolts, carb linkage, & billet distributor.

Again, nicely done. This thing screams 1972, but the finish is way better than what you'd find back then

liteweight

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 07:05 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Thanks for the good word i just finished it last summer its a real GTX hemi 4speed dana rearhttp://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...831_110356.jpg

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 07:10 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-38-42_388.jpg

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 07:15 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-32-33_646.jpg

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 07:20 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-36-30_506.jpg

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 07:26 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-35-33_833.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 02-04-2013 07:46 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
In 1967, once the NHRA 're-shuffled' the deck.

The GTX 440 was classed in B/S or B/SA = (9.50 - 10.59 Wt/Hp)

Class Records,
* B/S.............12.50 @ 113.17 MPH
* B/SA...........12.97 @ 114.21 MPH

If you wanted to run in the new '1967' Super/Stock classes, there was no
record in January 1967, but there was a 'minimum'

SS/E = (9.48 Wt/Hp and up)

* SS/E..........12.50
* SS/EA........13.03

By March 1967, these were adjusted for the appropriate times.

spikeyz0 02-04-2013 08:01 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...6-34-07_42.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 02-05-2013 10:44 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
1967,

Plymouth had plans to dominate the 1967 Stock Class,

If you were able to get one in November or December 1966, and
sneak to the drag strip, you could get classed in,

* 426 'Street Hemi'........... A/S and A/SA
* 440 'HiPo'........................C/S and C/SA

But, in January 1967, the NHRA 'massaged' the weight breaks,,,,,,,,,,:(

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.48947...19044&pid=15.1

Paul Ceasrine 02-05-2013 12:34 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Teak,

1967 NHRA Class Records for, where the 67' GTX and 67' Coronet R/T
would fit with the 440/375 HP 'Super Commando'

* B/S..............12.33.......(1967 Camaro Z-28 '302' ~ Ben Wenzil)
* B/SA...........12.63.......(1967 Coronet R/T '440' ~ Dick Landy)

* SS/E...........11.95.......(1967 GTX '440' ~ Sox & Martin)
* SS/EA.........12.37.......(1967 Camaro SS 396/325 HP ~ Dick Arons)

Charlie A 02-05-2013 06:01 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
I was 15 in 1967.

This has me drooling now just as I would have then.

Just perfectly cool.

http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-38-42_388.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 02-05-2013 06:32 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
(1968 Photo)

Englishtown, New Jersey (NED 1 Points Meet)

1967 GTX 440 (SS/FA)

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=4293

Dinsdale 02-08-2013 01:38 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 367890)
1967,

Plymouth had plans to dominate the 1967 Stock Class,

If you were able to get one in November or December 1966, and
sneak to the drag strip, you could get classed in,

* 426 'Street Hemi'........... A/S and A/SA
* 440 'HiPo'........................C/S and C/SA

But, in January 1967, the NHRA 'massaged' the weight breaks,,,,,,,,,,:(

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.48947...19044&pid=15.1

I was 14 at the time and got my first Drag Strip experience because my friends Uncle Sponsored this car for some tires. Car was new and I've loved the 67's ever since. Actually owned a real nice 440 4 speed for awhile in about 1973 but it wasn't a very good "winter" car so sold it to my younger brother. No idea what became of it when he was done...

Paul Ceasrine 02-08-2013 04:49 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
The 'Pop-Open' gas cap, Thin-Slit Chromed Exhaust Tips and the
Fiberglass Faux Hood Scoops.

Bought one for $500 in 1975. The 'two brothers' who owned it, tried to rebuild the 440 engine (without knowledge).
They put the connecting rods in backwards - and they couldn't spin the crankshaft while the engine was
on the stand in their garage. They gave up.........

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/stagi...ar_3-4_Web.jpg

Charlie A 02-08-2013 10:52 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinsdale (Post 368263)
I was 14 at the time and got my first Drag Strip experience because my friends Uncle Sponsored this car for some tires. Car was new and I've loved the 67's ever since. Actually owned a real nice 440 4 speed for awhile in about 1973 but it wasn't a very good "winter" car so sold it to my younger brother. No idea what became of it when he was done...

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...3&d=1360301866

Paul Ceasrine 02-09-2013 09:15 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
1968

D/S or D/SA = 9.50 - 9.99 Wt/HP

The top guys were running 12.80's with the 440/375 HP GTX.

wv_bob 02-09-2013 11:40 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
I had a 67 gTx once and thought I'd scored, then I went to replace the funky shag carpet and found the front floorboards were red and the back floorboards were blue. Everywhere I could see with the carpet in had been rattle-canned black. One of those things you just learn as you go.

Paul Ceasrine 02-09-2013 06:06 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Though Sox and Martin's 1967 Hemi cars get all the accolades,,,,

Their 1967 GTX 440 set the NHRA SS/E National Record with an
11.95

Dago Red 02-12-2013 01:46 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 368483)
Though Sox and Martin's 1967 Hemi cars get all the accolades,,,,

Their 1967 GTX 440 set the NHRA SS/E National Record with an
11.95

I had a 67 440/stick/Dana that I drove to high school. I wore it out.
I rebuilt it (I got the rods right too!) but I got to that tilting stage where I knew enough to know I didn't know enough (or afford it) so I sold it for...............$800

Paul Ceasrine 02-14-2013 10:51 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
G.

1967 GTX Hardtop (NHRA Stock Classes)

426 Hemi
1967 = SS/B
1968 = SS/D
1969 = SS/E or A/S
1970 = SS/D or B/S
1971 = SS/D or B/S

440
1967 = SS/E or B/S
1968 = SS/F or D/S
1969 = SS/I or E/S
1970 = SS/H or F/S
1971 = SS/H or F/S

Liteweight 02-22-2013 04:15 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
car out of Alberta
Always a favorite to see

liteweight

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9a43e1a1.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ps78bc4daa.jpg

Geerhead55 02-23-2013 01:49 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
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Heres a '67 GTX that my 'ol highschool buddy Larry Erb had back in the early '70s,, it was equipped with a 440/727 setup. We'd swap rides once in a while,,, he liked my 327/4 speed '67 Malibu, so here it is in my folks driveway before I ventured out one Friday night about 40 years ago.
Danny Durham

Paul Ceasrine 02-23-2013 08:35 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Daryl,

The 1967 RO23 Hemi Cars were 'Belvedere II' cars.

No GTX left the factory with a functional flat 67' Hemi hood scoop.

Sox & Martin won the 1968 NHRA Springmationals with a 'true' 67' GTX
Street Hemi, dual faux-vent scoop hooded car.

Paul Ceasrine 03-05-2013 06:39 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
1967 GTX 440...D/SA

Larry Gardinier - Henry's Competition (Syracuse, New York)

(Photo 1968)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ygardinier.jpg

Liteweight 03-06-2013 11:09 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 370407)
Daryl,

The 1967 RO23 Hemi Cars were 'Belvedere II' cars.

No GTX left the factory with a functional flat 67' Hemi hood scoop.

Sox & Martin won the 1968 NHRA Springmationals with a 'true' 67' GTX
Street Hemi, dual faux-vent scoop hooded car.

Paul
Yes, thanx I know. Just thought it was a place to post these, as it was one of my fav. cars back then.

liteweight
ps My Bad. I go back to my corner now

Paul Ceasrine 03-06-2013 01:51 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Daryl,

You now have to put one Pinion Subber in the 'kitty' as punishment...:)

On a lighter note,

Sox & Martin set the 'early' 1967 NHRA SS/E record with their 67' GTX 440 at {12.15}

Jeff D 03-07-2013 06:39 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
The "Old Trapper" appears to be a GTX, not a RO23 Belvedere. GTX's had wheelwell chrome, and chrome on the rocker panels. RO23's had chrome on the belt line only. Old Trapper looks to be a GTX with a RO23 hood.

I believe Tony Patchens 67 Coronet was the same deal. Started out as a 67 R/T with a WO23 hood later on.

Jeff

Paul Ceasrine 03-07-2013 05:25 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Jeff D,

I believe you are correct.

The Belvedere II had a 'thin single' Belvedere II emblem on the front fender.

The GTX cars had an emblem that was 'Belvedere II' with 'GTX' underneath.

Many racers converted their 67' GTX Street Hemi to a 67' 'RO' car, so
they could put on the low-profile hood scoop.

I believe Sox & Martin were this first to do this.

Also, for a period in 1968, the NHRA classed the 67' 'RO23' cars in SS/C and
the 67' GTX Street Hemi cars without the Hood Scoop in SS/D.

Old Trapper is a 67' GTX.

Here is a 1967 'RO' (Belevere II emblem on front fender)
http://www.harmsauto.com/images/RO%2...%20(small).jpg


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Liteweight 03-07-2013 10:22 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Good eyes Jeff, you are 100% correct, cause if you look real close you can make out a GTX emblem on the front fender.

Now that your eyes are tuned in, why does the white RO have what looks to be a pentastar on the drivers fender dog leg.???

liteweight

Paul Ceasrine 03-07-2013 10:37 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Mr. Jere Stahl

(1967 World Finals @ Tulsa)

1967 Belvedere II 'RO23'

http://www.quartermilestones.com/pho...n2/RMA6702.jpg

Phillip marvetz 03-08-2013 06:00 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
There were two cars ran new in Division 6, The Mr Kite Belvedere a 426 street Hemi and a RO S/S sold new in the Seattle area bought new by Dick Hamner. Dick's son still owns the car. Dick set a AHRA record way back in the day with a single four barrel on it.

Paul Ceasrine 03-08-2013 08:45 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Difference between the GTX and the Belvedere II

GTX
* Grille
* Rear Trunk Deck Panel Insert
* Exterior Decor Group (Wheel Well Opening Moldings, Rocker-Panel Moldings, Chrome Exhaust Tips)
* GTX Emblem (under Belvedere emblem)
* Twin Faux fiberglass hood scoops
* Bucket Seats
* Upgraded Interior
* Console
* Pop-Open Gas Cap
* 440 'Super Commando' (Standard Equipment)
* 426 'Street Hemi (Optional)

The 1967 GTX '426 Street Hemi' was 'heavier' than the
1967 Belvedere II 'RO23' Super/Stock Package.
http://images2.justcarsites.net/~str...195920-1sm.jpg

wv_bob 03-08-2013 12:01 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
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Originally Posted by Liteweight (Post 372319)
Now that your eyes are tuned in, why does the white RO have what looks to be a pentastar on the drivers fender dog leg.???

Too far up the fender to be a pentastar - maybe it's the HEMI badge?

Edit: yeah, here's a picture of one from the other side and you can see that's the HEMI badge there.

Paul Ceasrine 03-08-2013 01:17 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
1967 Plymouth GTX

The Numbers

*GTX '440 Super Commando'..........................11,277
* 4-Speed............................................. .....................2486
* Automatic......................................... .......................8791

* GTX '440 Super Commando' (convertible).....680
* 4-Speed............................................. .......................237
* Automatic......................................... .........................443

* GTX 'Street Hemi.............................................. ......720
* 4-Speed............................................. ........................312
* Automatic......................................... ..........................408

* GTX 'Street Hemi' (convertible)............................17
* 4-Speed............................................. ...........................7
* Automatic......................................... ............................10

Paul Ceasrine 03-09-2013 09:10 AM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
1967 Plymouth GTX

The 'NHRA' controversy for 1967......

Following the success of the 426 'Street Hemi' in 1966 NHRA , which was dominant in Stock Class
in both A/S and A/SA and in National Events, Chrysler wanted to continue the pattern in 1967 with the
addition of the 'new' Plymouth GTX and Dodge R/T.

These nearly #3700 lb. B-Body 'Street Hemi' cars would again fit perfectly in A/S (7.00 - 8.69 Wt/Hp)
as per the 1966 NHRA Stock Class requirements.

Both Plymouth and Dodge built these cars, with Sales and Marketing campaigns tied directly into the
A/S Stock Class 'specifically' in mind.

But, the NHRA had something else in mind,
A) Expansion of the Super Stock class from 'one class' (S/SA) to 'five classes' (SS/A thru SS/E).
B) Dropping the A/S 'Stock Class' Weight/Horspower break to 8.70 - 9.49 Wt/Hp, which would knock
the '426 Street Hemi' out of Stock Class.
C) This would mean, any person who bought a '426 Street Hemi' and wanted to be a partcipant at an
NHRA sanctioned track, even their 'street-driven' 'Street Hemi' would have to compete in the Super Stock
class with full-time Drag Race cars.

With some early complaints from the Stockers, at the opening of the 1967 Drag Race Season, the NHRA
re-established the AA/S and AA/SA 'Stock Class' and permitted both the 1966 and 'new' 1967 'Street Hemi's'
to run in that class.

If you ran in Super/Stock, the 1966 Belvedere 'Street Hemi' (Sedan 'post car' and Belvedere II 'hardtop') were
classed in SS/B or SS/BA. But, few knew that the 1967 GTX and 1967 R/T 'Steet Hemi's' were slightly heavier
cars, and would actually fit into the SS/C class along with several of the 426 'Max-Wedge' cars.

February 1967,

Chrysler then announced a 1967 "Super Stock Package", which would be a Plymouth Belvedere II 'hardtop'
and a Dodge Model 440 'hardtop' to be factory prepped cars called the 'RO23' and 'WO23' respectively.

The B-Body cars would be assembled, less several un-needed race items (Radio, Sound Deadener, etc.),
and included a low-profile Hood Scoop along with a few other essential Drag Race items. These 1967
'Super Stock Package' cars would also be approximately 100 lbs. lighter than the 1967 'GTX' and 'R/T'
'426 Street Hemi'.

The 'new' 1967 'RO' and 'WO' cars (built on February 12, 1967) would be classed in SS/B or SS/BA.

In March 1967, the NHRA dropped the AA/S and AA/SA 'Stock Class', but still classed the 1967 'GTX'
'Steet Hemi' in SS/C or SS/CA.

As a matter of fact, there were '2' - 1967 Plymouth Satellite's built with a '426 Street Hemi', and these
heavier cars were also classed in SS/C.





http://www.plymouthgtx.net/informati...7gtxad1_sm.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 03-09-2013 01:05 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Ed,

Here it is, 1967 Plymouth Satellite '426 Street Hemi'.
(Only 1 of 6 Hardtops built)

Ran in AA/S (early 1967), SS/C (early-1967), then in SS/B after
the NHRA maded the changes for 'all' Streeet Hemi's to run in
SS/B in mid-and-late 1967.

http://www.440magnum.com/mopars/2004...67hemisat2.jpg

spikeyz0 03-11-2013 02:07 PM

Re: 1967 Plymouth GTX
 
Hhttp://i411.photobucket.com/albums/p...-58-53_479.jpgas anyone seen this sticker before i bought this from a guy who said they were real back in the late 60s from sox .


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