P glide to to 3 speed switch.How much is it worth???
 

Well what does it look like the p glide to 3 speed swap is worth ?Looks like a few of the p glide races have picked up some with the swap.

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On my combo .08-.10 depending on track and weather, 3000# 650 horse.

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FYI
Last weekend my car shifted from first to third it slowed the car down appx 16 figuring in the weather . I went a 9:28 with the 1st to 3rd shift then a run that shifted normal i went a 9:17 with the weather 500 feet higher . The shift messed up first round when i had a perfect light but would not run the number beccause of the problem of not ****ing right Hopefully I got this problem solved will test on wednesday

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As soon as I get my car pulling all the way thru the 1320 I am gonna test the 3 speed vs. the powerglide. I will make three runs with glide then switch to a turbo on same day with same converter.

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I have always read that a 3 speed will help a heavier car(3200# up) more than one with lesser weight. Example 66 chevelle 3400# vs 91 calais 2900#. Any input please
Thanks jason

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stocker at 530hp - 1968 Camao F/CM weight (3005).

best of 10.44, average fast runs at 10.48-50 with the glide
best of 10.53 average fast runs 58-61 with the 3 speed

the 3 speed had quicker 60fts. 1.32-35 vs. 1.37-38
the glide had better 330's on through to the end

i believe it was becasue the 3sp had the front end higher and the car was bouncing upon coming down. i have tried Caltracs front shocks and their new harder retract shocks. i have installed new Santauff front shocks to try this season and will be coming out with the 3 speed to see if we can stop the rears from hazing during the bounce (i do have to steer when the car comes down with the 3sp.)

2 speed was always 2-3 mph quicker to the quarter.

3 speed is ALWAYS more fun!

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the ride is worth the 6000.00 RON TAYLOR

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Lynn, I think you need a trick high gear only set up with that torquebeast you have! :)

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What kind of 3 speed were you running? Unfortunately if you dont have a Pro Trans or a very good Metric you will see no performance gain in any T350 or 400 compaired to a PG. Its just the way it is. Those transmissions have to many rolling parts and carry to much weight. The glide stock is much lighter than those 2 trans. If your not prepaired to spend 3500 and up for a good metric or 5K and up for a pro trans just stick with the glide.

Better yet, install a man lever and pedal and have alot more fun..:)

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So is it allowable in NHRA to run a PG when the particular engine and body was a 3-speed auto?

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Todd the man levers are long gone!!!! All thats left are the 4 speed auto's that you guys use a clutch to leave the line with. So easy even a cave man could use one. Sorry couldn't resist. Barry

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:eek:

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GM applications only.

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Is it GM only? What about the PG which Ford called a "C2" in CJs? What about whatever Chrysler called the PG that came in the V10 Challenger? I don't see anything in the rulebook disallowing them.

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I went back to a glide from a metric.Just wanted to make the car easier for my daughter to drive.In our 12 second car the glide slowed the car up around 12 hundreds.But it's deadly consistent.. Good luck, joe Mocci

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I went from PG to Turbo 350 last summer in the Corvette. 60' picked up .09 and carried it to the finish line in warm weather. In the cooler weather, the ETs are about identical, even though the 60' is a lot better. I suspect the engine combination didn't like the RPM drop at the shift in the warmer weather when the power is down. Oddly enough, the car seems to be even more consistent with the Turbo 350, which surprised me as the car practically xeroxed time slips with the PG. Reaction time picked up about .03, which was the main reason for the swap. All this is with a 3200 lb car with a 650 hp iron headed 427 with the same converter. The Turbo 350 was built by a local builder with good parts, but it is no Pro Trans.

I will say that it is way more fun to drive with the Turbo 350. Went from barely lifting the tires off the ground to going on the bumper. Had to put the wheelie bars back on!

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At least we don't get that ****ty red fluid on us :D

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Lyn, it's usually .17 if you convert to a good 200. Looks lime Terry Nagel picked up .20 from last year at the same race, but air looked to be a little better in Gainsville this year over last year.

Philbilly, if you use the same converter from glide to 200 you probably won't pick up as much as you could. I think the 200 will like a looser converter.

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Yeah gotta use a high dollar three speed or it ain't any faster.
I don't know bout all this talk with man levers and fun, sounds a little ghey. LOL

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No one has mentioned the converter. What I have seen happen when doing the 2 speed to 3 speed conversion is the converter, that was scienced out for the 2 speed, tightens up quite a lot for the 3 speed. Unless you change converter that puts the stall speed at the very same RPM as the 2 speed then that is not a valid A-B test from 2 speed to 3 speed. You left the converter stall change in the test. That usually leaves a few hundredths on the table. the stall change is due to the load, or less load the converter sees with the lower low gear of the 3 speed. That is why some guys say their 60's didn't pick up with the lower first gear. It is all about the combination of the converter and the low gear ratio if you want to go fast..

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X2 Adger On car that is really sensitive to converter,like low hp stocker,gear ratio change can make converter wrong. Simple way to think about converters is like they are rubber band easier the car moves,lower gear in trans or rear,weight reduction,etc. the tighter the converter will be the harder to move,higher ratios,added weight the looser it becomes.
If going from 1.76 or 1.8? glide to 2.75 in 200 is not going to use same converter,before anyone says it I know they don't interchange,unless both are converted to for turbo 350 converter.
When I had a auto went from 2.48-2.75 low and converter was a little tight w/2.48 and got worse w/2.75

I went back to what I know and love ,turn 6 adjusters w/long 7/32 allen wrench in about 5 minutes I'm ready to go again,I rarely even get any clutch dust on me,I hate that atf stuff I call it devils blood.
Mike Taylor 3601

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my trannys and converters for the stocker (which it what i was commenting on) are all ATI pieces. i have back to back'd 11 converters in the 350 and made the adjustment as recommended from ATI from what we consider our base line with the 350, when we went to the glide.

the glide has a 2.08 first gear, the 350 has a 2.75 first gear. I have been thinking of trying the Pro Trans spare i have which has a 2.48 first gear, but it mostl likely won't happen this year.

Also, i have never put the car on kill. i run in bracket mod all the time. 18 pounds in the rear tires, launch at 3200-3400 based on reaction, 35 degrees timing no matter what and i never change jets throughout the season, there maybe more in the car with the glide if we tried high rpm launches and way more rear tire pressure as the glide already makes more mph, i remember with the Chevelle i was running three years ago, 5 psi in the rear tires made almost 5 mph (we ran 22psi and tried 27 - Hoosier light weight radials 9x30 92 inch roll out).

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Has nothing to do with sexual prefrence, LOL. Maybe I could word that differently.

You guys were the fastest glide stocker around when you ran the nova? What made you keep the glide? Do you think that car would be faster or just as fast with a T350 with basic parts? You must have kept the glide for a good reason. Your car in G/SA - Jr Stock went 10.70's back then. Your glide must have been real good to keep it in the car.

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Hey Todd, just jokin bout man levers and such. Been tryin to get Henry to put in a Jerico for years. Ha-ha.That would definetely wake that car up!Only reason we stuck with glide cause we're old and stubborn. LOL.Really though, have a good three speed auto that wasn't reliable enough to stay together long enough to iron out. I think it will be faster especially in the heat.I don't think it would be faster with a basic T350. Too much rotating weight.

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Lyn:I'd say it was worth a solid .015 for me and you know how cheap I am:)

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Do you meen .15? And yes on engines that make less power the 3 speed will help more with the same weight. Also the correct convertor is essential for optimum et as was mentioned earlier.

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Glenn,
On my 3200 lb V-6 I used the maxed out 1.98 PG converter and went to a 2.12/1.35/1 Proflite. It picked up about .02 in low gear then it picked up the rest in second gear. .07 for a total of what happened in hi gear. of .1 to .11 on a consistant track. We noticed the converter was quite a bit tighter on the gera changes and leavingthe line. so I tried 2 other converters that were always too loose for the PG. the best one put the stall back up about 50 below what my PG ran with. It also picked up another .04. The second gear made a big difference in racing too. because with the pg it was like the car was hanging there when side by side, I think the extra gear (2nd) made it harder for another racer to pace my car. BTW my V-6 makes about 660 hp @ 9200. I think it helped the finish line charge, too. MPH went up when the right converter was in it.

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Yep, .15 and knowing Greg, he drained the old atf from the glide out and poured it into themetric! LOL!

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That's great Adger.What kinda torque does that V6 make and at what RPM? What does the torque curve look like?

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Glen If you remember we were playing with the metric about the same time you guys were. All we saw was about .05. We did the switch back to back at the track. Some of you guys may be picking up more than that. But I would question how good your glide and converter are. Barry

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I agree with Barry, .05 from PG to 3 speed. Those dudes, Glen, Henry & Parker Bros maxed out the PG (converter) technology. It was fun banging heads with the power glides... I believe todays technology on a trick metric would make it closer to .10 vs the maxed out technology of PG's. Tell Henry to put a metric in the Nova and bring that bad boy out again.

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F that automatic stuff. Jerico is where it's at. Ha-ha.I've tried to get him to put that metric back in but................