Hemi B body shock tower modification?
 

The new Hemi is coming together and while it's out I need to modify the passenger side shock tower so I can get the valve cover off, Does anyone any experience on how the factory did this? Pictures would be great,lol. It looks like a drivers side mount turned upside down would work best but before I get the plasma cutter out I would like to hear what has been done in the past. Thanks.

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Go here Phil

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=...w=1024&bih=649

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I'm not so sure the valve cover won't come off without the mod.

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With the Mopar crossram I have to pull both motor mount bolts, Remove the master cylinder, The passenger side shock, Tilt the engine clockwise as far as it will go, Beat the shock tower all to hell with a bfh and then bend the valve cover all to hell to get it almost off. Then I remove the intake, Presto off it comes.
I would be happier if I could leave the intake on to accomplish this due to the fact that I am extremely lazy and usually drunk after a long day of racing and apparently the Hemi requires having the valve spring pressure check quite often. 8000 thru the traps does that.
Due to the above mentioned laziness and drunkenness I may put the four barrel back on it, Less chance of running a CJ in B/SA any ways but Dave Wren says real Hemi's have two carb's and he wont talk to me if I only have one. He is very stubborn about this!

Thanks for the links guy's, I'm planning on cutting the old bitch up this weekend based on those pic's. What do you think of shortening up to the wheelbase NHRA show's as legal? And you thought the SS/AH were altered. lol

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Be sure to post the "after" pictures. I love it when guys cut up a perfectly good car. And Dave Wren is correct on the carb count.

http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/...si67/PhilM.jpg

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I don't want to hijack your thread but I have a question that the readers here should know. Question is can I install the "Race Hemi" into a 1964 Dodge 330? I see it in the guide but I haven't seen anyone run this combo in stock. Who runs this combo? Tom Nolan.

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Yes, I believe so. I think they started that a few years ago. Single four barrel. I think Barton was running one of those in a 65. There will be other people on here that know more about it than I do though.

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Should be A-OK. There are '65s and a '64 Savoy out there, so I see no reason that the '64 330.wouldn't be included.

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Tom, You can run it as a single four Nascar or Race Hemi with the crossram. The hood scoop is the hardest part to find. The 330 is a post car right? I don't think we are allowed to use a hardtop with a Hemi. At least I was told No regarding using my 65 Belvedere way back when this whole thing started.

Thanks for the picture Dale, I peeled most of the stickers off over the winter. I like it alot better without them. The "Goin Dutch" is still on it though, I'm having a hard time deciding on peeling them off.

What do you guy's think? Leave them on or take them off?

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Phil,
If you remember, all 64-65 NASCAR Mopars where hardtops, not sedans.

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Chuck Rayburn runs a 64 Belvedere Hard top in CC/SA and has run A/SA. The hood scoop is available. Your best bet is to have one made. Either Marcel's Custom metal fabrication in Corona CA. or Joey Cole -The Tin Man in Minnesota. Joey made my steel A-990 scoop. Excellent craftsmanship, cost $1,400. The originals usually need much attention after years of abuse, and have the rare parts price.

Mark Madison

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Yes I do remember, That's why I bought a solid 65 Plymouth Belvedere 1st for $500 only to be told the hardtop was not allowed. I see it is in the guide now though. The 65 Dodge is still listed as sedan only though, It took a few month's of searching and I had to pony up $3000 for a rusty sedan. It's to bad I have so much invested in this old Dodge chassis. I sold the 65 Plymouth years ago but do have line on a decent 64.

Mark, Joey Cole made my Hoodscoop and bumper. I probably wouldn't recommend him to any one though, It took two years to get the hoodscoop and it was very rough once I finally got it. The bumper is a piece of art but the scoop was horrible. He did offer to fix the scoop but after waiting for so long I wasn't going to take any more chances with him, and the scoop was the last thing holding me up from finishing the car. I had a local fab guy spend a few day's on it for another $600. It would be nice if NHRA would let us use a fiberglass unit instead.

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Yep, it would save a lot of money to be able to run fiberglass replacement parts rather than expensive aluminum parts. I have a 1964 Belvedere H/T and would prefer to use fiberglass myself. It could be equal weight for all I care. The last aluminum nose I saw for a Plymouth was $20k and that was over 12 years ago. Is that about ten times the price of fiberglass?

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Phil, Joey was about 3 weeks behind with my scoop and part of it was my fault. I changed from aluminum to steel mid stream. The finished product was still excellent. As a contractor, my experience has been sometimes that's how it goes with small time craftsman, great quality, lousy businessman or a project will get put on the back burner for a week, then all of a sudden it's six weeks later and the customer is screaming. The honest craftsman will make it right in the end. It would seem you have had more than your fair share of the others. Best of luck with your new bullet.

I vote no on the fiberglass parts. These are not ,nor will they ever will be cheap cars to build or run. I knew that going in.

Mark Madison

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I've been extremely happy with the work Joey did on an original 64 Dodge Hemi car scoop and hood, and fender and hood repair on an original 64 Plymouth. I would think what you ran into with the hood scoop issue with Joey is a rarity. I've only heard good things about Joey in the past.

Very cool cool car by the way.