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mopar jeff 03-07-2013 05:46 PM

Injector question
 
So I was thinking of upgrading the injectors on my LT1 powered Stocker, but $600 is a bit pricey. Is there a problem with just picking up a used set off Ebay for around $100, and having them cleaned if necessary?

Mike Savelle 03-07-2013 06:05 PM

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you have a PM

Ed Wright 03-07-2013 07:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mopar jeff (Post 372268)
So I was thinking of upgrading the injectors on my LT1 powered Stocker, but $600 is a bit pricey. Is there a problem with just picking up a used set off Ebay for around $100, and having them cleaned if necessary?

Jegs has ACCEL injectors for something like $375.00. Thy are not Bosch injectors, which are as good as they come. 30lbs is plenty big enough.

mopar jeff 03-07-2013 07:35 PM

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Ed I would like to do the Bosch ones, just so I don't leave anything to chance. Just wondering if buying them used is acceptable, or do they have a life span? Thanks.

Ed Wright 03-07-2013 07:54 PM

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Jeff, it's nothing to see them go a couple hundred thousand miles. I would have them cleaned and flow tested for sure. Bench-top machines clean, flow test and you can see the spray patterns. Well worth it. I have mine done every winter just to be safe.
If they came from a race car they couldn't 't have many actual miles on them. I would still have them cleaned & tested to make sure.

mopar jeff 03-07-2013 08:18 PM

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I would imagine I will end up with a set from a street car, but maybe someone on here has a set for sale.

KRatcliff 03-07-2013 09:19 PM

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The Venom 30lb injectors that you can get new off Ebay are $299.99 and would be darn close to the Ford Racing injectors as far as your needs. I think they flow slightly more than the Ford's according to Jeff Warren, but it wouldn't cause you any problems.

Ed Wright 03-07-2013 10:35 PM

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[QUOTE=KRatcliff;372313]The Venom 30lb injectors that you can get new off Ebay are $299.99 and would be darn close to the Ford Racing injectors as far as your needs. I think they flow slightly more than the Ford's according to Jeff Warren, but it wouldn't cause you any problems.[/]

I would avoid those. Very high failure rates, and too often don't flow as rated. I have seen so many problems with those I now refuse to tune a car with them. Stick with Bosch or Lucus if your not going to use the originals.

mopar jeff 03-08-2013 01:00 PM

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That is about 1/2 price Kyle, but maybe I should take my chance on a used set of Bosch, which will even be half of the Venoms.

KRatcliff 03-08-2013 06:21 PM

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I prefer the Ford Racing/Bosch if you can find them, but that is the problem. We haven't had any problems with the Venoms, but YMMV.

Ed Wright 03-08-2013 06:35 PM

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I have customers (shops) with the bench top injector cleaners/flow testers that have found over 5% variation in sets of those, and a lot of failures. Some just quit working and sticking open. Accel used to have the same issues with their solid yellow injectors before changing to Bosch a few years ago. Their Bosch injectors have yellow tops, and bare steel bottoms.

KRatcliff 03-08-2013 06:58 PM

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I have had that much variation in the Ford Racing injectors. That is why I have flowed mine and put together matched sets.

Ed Wright 03-08-2013 08:10 PM

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I've never seen another brand vary that much. Most are within 1 % or so.
Creitz Automotive here in Tulsa clean and flow mine each winter. Bosch are usually closer than others. Ford has changed to Bosch IIs, they look like LS1 injectors now. Accel injectors are the Ford Racing-style now. Just don't have the different color tops to tell the flow rate. Red top Fords were 30 lbs. light blue=24 lbs, etc. I'm using FAST injectors (Bosch) now.
I was not aware you had Venoms in your car.

mopar jeff 03-09-2013 02:23 PM

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We all know Kyle has a fast car, so they can't be too bad.

Ed Wright 03-09-2013 04:35 PM

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Think he lucked out and got a good set. Hard to tune a car via email when not one injector of the 8 flow what they are supposed to, or flow the same. Seen that too many times.

Rob Petrie E395 03-10-2013 05:00 PM

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Just a heads up for guys looking for 30LB Ford Red top injectors on Ebay. There is a clown from PA (I will try and find the name of the town if I can and post later he changes his screen name alot so its of no use) who regularly has a set for sale. He claims he bought them for his mustang and "changed directions with his build" The junk he sends you is just that used junk and from talking to others alot of times are not even Ford Motorsport injectors. Took me forever to get it straightened out with Ebay and Paypal. Hopefully this will save someone a headache.

Signman 03-10-2013 05:19 PM

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http://www.fuelinjectorconnection.com/

Have been treated well by these guys.

mopar jeff 03-11-2013 10:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Petrie E395 (Post 372678)
Just a heads up for guys looking for 30LB Ford Red top injectors on Ebay. There is a clown from PA (I will try and find the name of the town if I can and post later he changes his screen name alot so its of no use) who regularly has a set for sale. He claims he bought them for his mustang and "changed directions with his build" The junk he sends you is just that used junk and from talking to others alot of times are not even Ford Motorsport injectors. Took me forever to get it straightened out with Ebay and Paypal. Hopefully this will save someone a headache.


Good information Rob. Thanks.

Michael Beard 03-11-2013 10:46 AM

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Just had my injectors cleaned and flow tested. www.injectorexperts.com Good peace of mind.

Ed Wright 03-11-2013 09:03 PM

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Michael, I always scribe the cylinder number in each injector, and always keep them in the same cylinder.

Altronics 03-12-2013 03:40 PM

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