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Paul Ceasrine 03-10-2013 01:38 PM

1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
1966 NHRA put together the Top Stock Eliminator for National Events.

Does anybody remember the cars that fit each class.

If memory serves me correctly.

S/S and S/SA
* 1965 Plymouth 'Race Hemi'
* 1965 Dodge 'Race Hemi'
* 1964 Plymouth 'Race Hemi'
* 1964 Dodge 'Race Hemi'

* 1966 Ford Fairlane 500 'R-Code' 427

AA/S and AA/SA
* 1964 Plymouth '426 Max-Wedge
* 1964 Dodge '426 Max-Wedge'
* 1963 Plymouth '426 Super Stock'
* 1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger'
* 1962 Plymouth '413 Super Stock'
* 1962 Dodge '413 Ramcharger'

A/S and A/SA
* 1966 Plymouth 'Street Hemi'
* 1966 Dodge 'Street Hemi'

* 1966 Chevrolet - Chevy Nova SS 'L-79' - {327/350 HP}

* 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight' - {427/425 HP}

* 1963 Chevrolet Impala 'Z-11 Lightweight' - [409/425 HP}

* 1961 Pontiac Ventura 'SD-421' 'Lightweight' - {421/405 HP}

B/S and B/SA
* 1963 Plymouth Station Wagon '426 Super Stock' - {426/415 HP 'non' Ram-Air}
* 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger' - {426/415 HP 'non' Ram-Air}

* 1964 Plymouth Belvedere '426 Street-Wedge'
* 1964 Dodge Coronet '426 Street-Wedge'

* 1966 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP}
* 1966 Chevrolet Biscayne - 427/425 HP
* 1965 Chevrlolet Biscayne - 409/400 HP
* 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/425HP
* 1963 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/425 HP
* 1962 Chevrolet Impala SS or Biscayne - 409/409 HP

* 1966 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
* 1965 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
* 1964 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
* 1963 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP

Dwight Southerland 03-10-2013 03:41 PM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

Paul Ceasrine 03-10-2013 06:18 PM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 372663)
What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

Sorry about that Dwight,,,,,,,

I think it went like this for 1966

A/FX or A/MP
* 1964 Ford Thunderbolt

* 1963 Chevrolet Impala 'Z-11' 409/425 HP

Paul Ceasrine 03-11-2013 08:51 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
1966 Super Stock Magazine Nationals
(New York National Speedway)

Top Photo
A/S........Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins - 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS - {327/350 HP}
B/S........Tom Kerr - 1966 Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP}

Middle Photo
B/S.......409/409 HP - 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
A/SA....427/425 HP - 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight'

Bottom Left Photo
C/S.......389/360 HP - 1966 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'
B/SA.....426/415 HP - 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger'

Bottom Right Photo
B/S........409/409 HP- 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
B/S........389/348 HP - 1964 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'




http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...7u3dw60_57.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 03-11-2013 10:25 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
What the Top Car's were running in 1966.

S/S...........11.30's
S/SA........11.30's

AA/S.........11.80's
AA/SA......12.00's

A/S............12.20's
A/SA.........12.50's

B/S............12.60's
B/SA..........12.90's

C/S.............12.80's
C/SA...........13.10's

D/S..............13.10's
D/SA...........13.60's

'AA/SA' in 1966 (1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger'; Gramatan Dodge, Mt. Vernon, New York)
http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=2126

Paul Ceasrine 03-11-2013 12:29 PM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Is this what you were talking about.

(1966 Photo).

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...saOK5-1966.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 03-11-2013 06:22 PM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
1966 Photo

1963 Dodge '426 Ramcharger' {426/415 HP non Ram-Air}

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...RZpXqA_ph1.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 05-14-2013 10:39 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 372767)
1966 Super Stock Magazine Nationals
(New York National Speedway)

Top Photo
A/S........Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins - 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS - {327/350 HP}
B/S........Tom Kerr - 1966 Chevelle Malibu SS 396 - {396/375 HP}

Middle Photo
B/S.......409/409 HP - 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
A/SA....427/425 HP - 1964 Ford Galaxie 'Lightweight'

Bottom Left Photo
C/S.......389/360 HP - 1966 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'
B/SA.....426/415 HP - 1963 Dodge Station Wagon '426 Ramcharger'

Bottom Right Photo
B/S........409/409 HP- 1962 Chevrolet Biscayne
B/S........389/348 HP - 1964 Pontiac GTO 'Tri-Power'




http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...7u3dw60_57.jpg

This is from Super Stock and Drag Illustrated (November 1966)

Tom Kerr........................(East Liverpool, Ohio)
Martin Chevrolet........... (Warren, Ohio)
B/S Class Record.........12.20 @ 117 MPH

Tom Kerr was Runner-Up to Bill Jenkoins in Top Stock Eliminator.

Tom Kerr also won the B/S Class at the 1966 Indy Nationals by running a 12.33 in the B/S Class Final.

bigsixman 05-14-2013 10:58 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Paul: Chevrolet did not make a 1965 409/425 motor for production cars. The 409/400 was the largest "W" motor that year. The "W" 409/400 and the 409/340 were phased out midyear and the 396/325 and the 396/425 and the limited chevelle only Z16 396/375 were to replace the two "W" 409 motors.

Paul Ceasrine 05-14-2013 11:26 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
BigSix,

Yes, I know.

The 409/400 HP was the highest Horsepower 'W' Engine available for the 1965 Chevrolet.

The 'W' 409 Engine production ended on February 1, 1965.

427FE 10-07-2016 08:58 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
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Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
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Rat Patrol 04-21-2021 04:18 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 372663)
What about the '64 lightweight Galaxies and the '64 Thunderbolts?

Source texts say that all Fiberglass and aluminum lightweight Stockers were banned from Stock in 1965. They were re-admitted in 1968.

Records show the MW and LW Galaxies still made an impression in A/Stock and B/Stock. I think most T Bolts had been ‘altered’ by 68.

DeuceCoupe 01-26-2025 01:27 PM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Paul C started some great old threads.

I found this cuz I'm suddenly hunting for info on if the 63 Chev Z11 427/430hp was ever NHRA legal in S/S or AA/S, does anybody know?

I've heard not enough built, but by end 63 there were 50 or 57 built, same as the 64 HiRiser Galaxie and those ran NHRA legal AA/S=7.00 class from mid-1964 on.

Even if factored as high as 470hp, the Z-11 would still fit in AA/S at the NHRA weight I have of 3341 lb

So why dont we see any Z-11s in S/S or AA/S?

Steve Stasko 01-27-2025 01:01 PM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Strickler ran S/S in '63 with his Z-11. A lot of those cars ended up in A/FX though and eventually became match bash cars.

AA didn't exist in the NHRA rulebook until 1965. AA was created to separate the factory package cars from Stock and relegate them to S/S. Super Stock itself wasn't a class until 1967.

DeuceCoupe 01-28-2025 08:31 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 708622)
Strickler ran S/S in '63 with his Z-11. A lot of those cars ended up in A/FX though and eventually became match bash cars.

AA didn't exist in the NHRA rulebook until 1965. AA was created to separate the factory package cars from Stock and relegate them to S/S. Super Stock itself wasn't a class until 1967.

Thanks.
Are you sure Strickler ran S/S in NHRA in 63 or was that AHRA?
I do know his Z-11 ran AHRA the Z-11 was legal there.
Strickler won A/FX in his Z-11 at 63 Indy.

AA/S=7.00 class was around at 1964 Indy but I've never seen a Z-11 with AA/S on it, no matter AHRA or NHRA.

Arnold Greene 02-08-2025 11:19 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
For what it is worth, the 396/375 Chevelles, Camaros, and Novas were rated by NHRA at 425 horsepower, due to the rating on of the 65 396/425 Corvette. I remember having to weigh more than a 427 Fairlane in my 67 Chevelle. These cars were made obsolete when Chevrolet produced the 1969 427/425 Copo Camaro. I don't remember when the 396 rating was lowered, but Dwight probably has that information.

Frank Castros 02-12-2025 11:19 AM

Re: 1966 Top Stock {S/S, S/SA, AA/S, AA/SA. A/S and A/SA}
 
Arnold,
Your black '69 Camaro was as nice a race car that I have ever seen, and fast too!
Frank


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