Stock @ Gainesville
 

22 out of 66 (33%) of the cars qualified are either new mustangs or challengers, this cannot be good for the future of the class, or am I missing something?

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You are not.

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Pick up a copy of Nitro Joe's stock stats from last year and figure the % from last years 1400 plus cars that raced in Stock.It wont be that high!!Dont let it scare you off.It just means there are racers out there that are spending money on new cars.

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0% COPO Camaro in Stock. Disappointing for us fans of all the factory Super Cars. At least Cambria has his COPO in Super Stock.

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D/SA 10.33 at 103mph first round of class 1.21 under come on what a joke !!!!
Get a clue NHRA

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The clue will be horsepower on Tuesday.

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That combo was originally a G/H/I car too. A joke indeed.

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Looks like an A or B car to me. 10.1x run flat out. At least 11 HPs coming on Monday.

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It would have been way worse for the class if only 44 cars had shown up!

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The 360 Challenger should be a C,D,E on Tuesday

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Jeff won't be happy.

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I see our "live from" reporters should be celebrating!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

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By that theory I would assume that a car that can run 10.25 in D/SA should be an A,B, or C car. Since thats faster then %75 of the cars currently running C/SA. Right? Let's get over the "that car should be" stage, stop complaining about how everyone else is playing the game when you're playing it the same way...

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The man makes a reasonable observation and you call it complaining?

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You're correct, he's is has made a reasonable observation. Maybe complaining was a bad term, would you prefer B*tching or beating a dead horse? Also if the statement was made by someone who wasn't capable of a similar performance in the same class I probably would have said nothing at all (that whole pot calling the kettle black thing). Also I am well aquatinted with Andrew and he's a big boy and can handle a little razzing.

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I don't really understand how it's beating a dead horse. The bogus factored new cars are still in my class, and I don't like it. Btw, I've never been anywhere close to 10.25.

Btw, tell Charley Bob I said to run that car out, I know it's got a 10.50 in it!

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Sorry 10.39 @ 120 mph, you're good at figuring out what people should have run so what kind of pass were you on for the record in D3 fall air?.... Since you're usually running 10.60's@120 :rolleyes: It's still just a game. Y'all could have build a Mustang instead of the Camaro for the same money.

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10.39 @ 124, flat out at minimum weight, I had nothing left. I just looked at the incrementals from the 10.33 run today, 104.96 mph at the 1/8th, I've never been 102.

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Well I started in C and maybe I will return, except for this large girth, someone do the math 328 3200 shipping. Let me know what max is in C. I don't think I can get there. If I got to run with all the skinny guys, then I should get a tenth just for being fat. And maybe it's New Fat, as opposed to Old Fat.

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IHRA is lookin' better, all the time... pure stock, maybe? :)
WHy dont they have Fuel Injection/ Stock? I thought that they had these cars separated from carbureted cars, a while back...
Im gettin ready to start on my 400/330 combo... i should just build my '72 Lemans Stationwagon , instead... 455/250ish hp... I'd be away from most , or all of these cars...

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Your minimum would be 3,120 lbs at C/SA. Come on down. The water is fine. ;)

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I'd say the horse died after the first 2 years of you beating it. I'm glad that you know more about the mustang than we do (must be all those engineering classes your taking). How long are you going to be butt hurt about them being in your class? They're working their way out of YOUR class and yet you still complain.

Also, take your 10.39 flat out @min weight like you set the record, throw some thin oil at it, ice her down good and run it at -1800 ft Gainesville air. You don't really expect me to believe that 10.39 is all the faster you'll run.

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Really ! NHRA is not the only one who needs a clue. last time I figured out how much it cost ME to build OUR car it was half of what it cost for a newer bogus HP ride...

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This all started when you called me out for b*tching when all I said was "Looks like an A or B car to me. 10.1x run flat out. At least 11 HPs coming on Monday."

Let's see, I said it looked like it should be in a higher class, how fast it was going based on the incrementals, and how much HP it will get. That doesn't really seem like bitching to me. I noted that it's working it's way out of my class, but it's unfortunate that some really fast cars didn't get the chance to win class, and their only hope was that the other guy screwed up.

So when I say Charley can run 10.50, you accuse me of knowing more about the mustang than you do, but then you tell me I can run 10.25? I could probably go faster than 10.39 in the negative altitude in Gainesville, yes, but not 10.25.

I'm sorry if you don't agree that a car running low 10.1s should be an A&B car.

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Yes, I'm the ignorant one here. Must just have my head in the clouds. But I know how much it cost US to built OUR Bogus HP Cobra Jet, and I'll tell you what if you'd like to meet up sometime and compare bills and receipts I'm all for it. We even have a nice little folder with everything broke down by cost in it so it will be nice and simple for you to see how much you can actually build a new ride for if you do it right. I'm willing to bet YOUR car and OUR car probably cost about the same.

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-In negative altitude

Yes, I am accusing you of knowing more about our car then we do, because I've heard you claim that the 281 CJ will go 10.50's for the last 3 years. Even after Brad Z ran it all out 20lbs heavy in the final round of the cic race last year at belle rose and it went 10.73 @124. And I'm just giving you the same thing back bud.

I'm sorry that I think that someone making the same statement over and over again about the new cars is complaining and you don't.I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. See you guys at indy

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Patrick, look im not going to keep going round and round about this but look at the big picture here, how is it a game when the national record holder takes advantage of a great condition and runs Balls out to complete a goal that has been set and takes years of thrashing and testing to accomplish, When any Joe Shmo can slap down 100K and step down and take advantage of system that has been put into place by simple tactics of a major auto manufacture to dupe people. worst of all its a slap in the face to many accomplished racers and true car guy's that can make their S--T hall A-- . Its called being a smart racer !! my 2 cents

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Jeff, 30 more and you'll be about right. Then you'll have to start thrashing like the rest of us.

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I started the thread with a simple question/observation and it is now 3 pages of crap. I am new to stock/superstock and one thing I have learned Is there is alot of bogus engines,combos, parts being used everyday. That is Why I went to ss modified, It seems to piss me off less...lol

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and i thought that with the DAMAGE ALREADY DONE the AMC'S would have taken over!!!!

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lol. thats about how i see it, i will stay on the outside looking in, but man, what fun!

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Greg, wait till you hear about my new BB car. I don't want to ruin your day. I can't get to the maximum of C unless I lose 240 lbs., so I will just stay in E at the same weight and just try to drive the car, which has become an issue. I guess at this age, the good times just don't last long enough. I will reinstall the drink holder in the car, change the cage for an ice chest in the trunk, so all is not lost.

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Just a simple question , is Art Leong hp rating bogus in super stock ? He seems to be able to go as fast as he wants when ever he wants with a 95 Neon and I tip my hat to him . I just dont hear anybody hear bitching about his car being under factored. And Im sure some you guys think us guys with the new cars never have to work on them or spend a dime to make them go as far under the index as a 95 Neon . The race car fairy just gives them to us an their 1.20 under , all we do is gas and go fast

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Arts car is Modified Stock, @ 18 pounds, per cubic inch, which means they will simply lower the index for the class! That is a fact of life for all hood scoop cars in Super Stock, as it affects everyone in that class, no matter what type of car, or combination they a running.

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Thanks Eddie , did not know thats was how it works

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Jeff, I can identify with having an issue about the driving part.

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Maybe this is the future of the class?

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When they whacked .30 off of all of the indexes they sure slowed down the new vehicles getting factored to where they should be.
Curious isn't it?

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There should be a new factor for all of us old and fat guys no matter what class!

JimR

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x2! Lol