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STEVEN NOVOSEL 03-18-2013 06:26 PM

Copo Camaro 2013
 
Has anyone got the call from Chevrolet Performance about ordering a 2013 model??? Just curious what engine is being ordered....the 350,396 or the 427...Steve

David Hakim 03-19-2013 11:14 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STEVEN NOVOSEL (Post 373959)
Has anyone got the call from Chevrolet Performance about ordering a 2013 model??? Just curious what engine is being ordered....the 350,396 or the 427...Steve

I got an email yesterday from Steve Johnson of Chevy Performance asking if I'm still interested in purchasing a 2013 COPO.

Here's the engine options with pricing:

350/325: $86,000
396/375: $88,000
427/425: $92,000


DonatoEng 03-19-2013 12:16 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
David,

I'd go with the big dog if I had your $$$$

David Hakim 03-19-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonatoEng (Post 374066)
David,

I'd go with the big dog if I had your $$$$

John, So would I if I had your good looks! :)

Troy Pourciau 03-19-2013 03:29 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Saw in an e-mail from GM they were going to produce 69 more for 2013.

STEVEN NOVOSEL 03-19-2013 06:32 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
I think Chevrolet Performance has been calling buyers last week and early this week...Haven't heard if all 69 are sold...

Timberline 03-19-2013 06:55 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
427 w/glide

Frank Bialas 03-19-2013 10:10 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
[QUOTE=David Hakim;374062]I got an email yesterday from Steve Johnson of Chevy Performance asking if I'm still interested in purchasing a 2013 COPO.

Here's the engine options with pricing:

[FONT=Arial]350/325: $86,000
396/375: $88,000
427/425: $92,000

I say go with the 512/450: $?

D.Johns 03-20-2013 07:24 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Any word on what the manual transmission option is yet? Tremec TR6060? Synchro, Pro-shifted/Dog-ring? A more racing oriented unit like V-Gate liberty or G-force or Jerico?

The 08 CJs had the standard 6060 out of the GT500 and the 2010s had the optional Liberty so I could see GM going either direction(really expecting the standard 6060 though)

FINESPLINE 03-20-2013 04:31 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Been asking the same question since they announced the stick option. Will only concern myself with it if I get THE PHONE CALL. :confused:

Rat Raceway 03-21-2013 05:06 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D.Johns (Post 374161)
Any word on what the manual transmission option is yet? Tremec TR6060? Synchro, Pro-shifted/Dog-ring? A more racing oriented unit like V-Gate liberty or G-force or Jerico?

The 08 CJs had the standard 6060 out of the GT500 and the 2010s had the optional Liberty so I could see GM going either direction(really expecting the standard 6060 though)


Right from the 2013 COPO Specs sent to me today...



TRANSMISSION: - Manual
o G-Force G101A 4-speed
o Gear ratios:
 2.933 1st
 1.867 2nd
 1.333 3rd
 1.000 4th
o Shifter – Long V-Gate
o Clutch – Ram adjustable 10.5”
o Flywheel – Ram steel 25 lb.
o Throw out bearing – Ram hydraulic

Timberline 03-21-2013 05:31 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
If anyone is interested 2013 COPO, #32, 427, power glide, Black. This car is for sale. If anyone is interested please PM me. $125,000 firm.

FINESPLINE 03-21-2013 08:58 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
That didn't take long at all. Guess maybe might need front money to pay for car. Sell quick and pocket 25 -30 grand. GM is definitely making sure that the cars are going to make it to the track. LOL

cambria 03-21-2013 10:26 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
They should withhold title for one year and require at least 6 sanctioned races

STEVEN NOVOSEL 03-22-2013 06:14 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
What title????

H Hoover 03-22-2013 07:46 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
I think in the USA I remember, you should be able to buy a car if you want and do anything with it you choose. Buy it for investment or race it. I doubt there is enough demand for these cars from serious racers to even sell out the production run.

cambria 03-22-2013 02:03 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
They will easily sell the production run.

FINESPLINE 03-22-2013 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cambria (Post 374560)
They will easily sell the production run.

Absolutely, without a doubt the production run is probably by now spoken for.. All will be sold to a few racers , some speculators and some collectors. Curious on how the breakdown will be with the new engine/trans options. Oh, of course --COLOR was a big concern ! lol Good luck :cool:to all the lotto winners for the 2013 COPO Camaros. Damn, still haven't won a lotto since winning the # in the draft in '71.

holley 03-22-2013 10:27 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timberline (Post 374405)
If anyone is interested 2013 COPO, #32, 427, power glide, Black. This car is for sale. If anyone is interested please PM me. $125,000 firm.


Do you have possession of this car.If you do it's was obviously built in
" 2012" if so did you run the car yet. Many call cars built in the later part of the 2012 a 2013, not sure how that works with COPO race car.

hadtobethere 03-23-2013 01:03 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holley (Post 374626)
Do you have possession of this car.If you do it's was obviously built in
" 2012" if so did you run the car yet. Many call cars built in the later part of the 2012 a 2013, not sure how that works with COPO race car.

my guess...NO, NO, MAYBE, ONLY, NEVER, SOMETIMES

holley 03-23-2013 01:36 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holley (Post 374626)
Do you have possession of this car.If you do it's was obviously built in
" 2012" if so did you run the car yet. Many call cars built in the later part of the 2012 a 2013, not sure how that works with COPO race car.


This car is from 2012 not a 2013. Shows up on one of the auction sites.

holley 03-23-2013 01:40 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holley (Post 374654)
This car is from 2012 not a 2013. Shows up on one of the auction sites.



Here tis:http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...N1112-145979#2

holley 03-23-2013 01:45 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timberline (Post 374405)
If anyone is interested 2013 COPO, #32, 427, power glide, Black. This car is for sale. If anyone is interested please PM me. $125,000 firm.

Hey bud you got a 2012 COPO.

George Lyons 03-23-2013 11:42 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
COPO cars are clearly identified by year in their numerical ID plate riveted to the dash, under the windshield where a production car has a VIN tag. Also the laminated build sheet in the trunk and all other Chevrolet paperwork shows year. There should never be any confusion as to the year of these cars. Chevrolet has made that very clear and easily recognized.

Rat Raceway 03-23-2013 12:25 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George Lyons (Post 374694)
COPO cars are clearly identified by year in their numerical ID plate riveted to the dash, under the windshield where a production car has a VIN tag. Also the laminated build sheet in the trunk and all other Chevrolet paperwork shows year. There should never be any confusion as to the year of these cars. Chevrolet has made that very clear and easily recognized.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x.../COPO33Vin.jpg

Timberline 03-23-2013 03:38 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
The car is a 2013 COPO. I am posting it for a small Chevrolet dealer who is a good friend of mine that has ordered the car and is selling it. No it has not been built yet expected delivery is early-mid summer.
Yes there is 2012 COPO #32 that is black this is not the same car.

holley 03-23-2013 06:45 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timberline (Post 374726)
The car is a 2013 COPO. I am posting it for a small Chevrolet dealer who is a good friend of mine that has ordered the car and is selling it. No it has not been built yet expected delivery is early-mid summer.
Yes there is 2012 COPO #32 that is black this is not the same car.

Thanks for clearing this up

George Lyons 03-24-2013 11:18 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Something strange here. A Chevrolet dealer cannot "order" a COPO. A retail customer applies to Chevy Performance. If he is chosen from the pool he can then select the dealer of his choice to handle the transaction. The car never goes to the dealership. The only reason a Chevrolet dealer is even involved in all this is for GM to stay in compliance with their dealer franchise agreements as to selling cars. The Chevy dealer does in fact make a very low percentage commission on the deal rightfully so. It is their product line of which they own a franchise and are entitled to some profit from a sale in their market.

Timberline 03-29-2013 08:45 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
You are correct for 2012. Things changed for 2013.

Dealers also had a chance to opt in for the COPO lottery where a third party picked the winning chances. Chevrolet Performance made the calls to notify the lucky ones. The winning dealer is notified and was given 24 hours to decide if they wanted to take delivery or not. If they declined the chance went to next dealer.

This particular car was accepted and the dealer will be the purchaser if a buyer is not found before delivery day and the dealer would have to pick up the car from Detroit just like a private customer would. All 69 of the purchasers get a tour of the COPO assembly plant. If a buyer chose to be a part of the engine build they would get a tour of the engine plant.

As a racer myself I posted this car here because I hope a racer will buy it and race it. I do not want it to be hidden away in someone's private collection never to be seen or raced.

All COPO's need to be raced and enjoyed as the drag cars that they are.

George Lyons 03-30-2013 11:29 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
So to be clear, the dealer is actually in the lottery as a retail buyer. He is not getting called to take a car as a Chevrolet dealer to then market to a customer. I really see no difference from last year. A dealer could have been in the pool in 2012 no different than 2013, and have got the call. A Chevrolet dealer can NOT order a COPO from what I have been told by the people involved in this project. If a dealer is in fact picked and gets a car I suppose he is free to market the car no different than others who took a car to flip and see a profit. Clearly not the intent but GM has no control over this after the car is sold by them to anybody.

Timberline 03-30-2013 09:07 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Yep you summed it up....supply and demand, welcome to America. If Chevrolet did not want the cars to be flipped for a profit by anybody they should have built more than 69.

I also want to mention BS walks and Money talks everything is negotiable.

lstanford 03-31-2013 09:54 AM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George Lyons (Post 375790)
So to be clear, the dealer is actually in the lottery as a retail buyer. He is not getting called to take a car as a Chevrolet dealer to then market to a customer. I really see no difference from last year. A dealer could have been in the pool in 2012 no different than 2013, and have got the call. A Chevrolet dealer can NOT order a COPO from what I have been told by the people involved in this project. If a dealer is in fact picked and gets a car I suppose he is free to market the car no different than others who took a car to flip and see a profit. Clearly not the intent but GM has no control over this after the car is sold by them to anybody.

So a friend of the dealer (who does not want the car) get's in the lottery. He wins the lottery but leaves the car with his car dealer friend to keep or resell. Where there is a will,there is a way.Remember there is no title only a parts counter slip when it is sold to the end user. Do you really think GM cares? The car companies know that only a small percentage of the cars will get raced. They like our conversation, it's good press. If they keep building 50 to a hundred a year the cars will depreciate for a long time before they appreciate in value.Most people with big money want the latest and greatest. There are only so many people with money that will buy one of each year for a collection.

Larry Fulton 04-10-2013 12:26 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
We're curious about the New 2013 engine choices...

are they all naturally aspirated?

350" / 325HP

396" / 375HP

427" / 425HP

Robin Lawrence 04-10-2013 03:17 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Fulton (Post 376999)
We're curious about the New 2013 engine choices...

are they all naturally aspirated?

350" / 325HP

396" / 375HP

427" / 425HP

Yes

Plus a stick shift option.

Robin

Jeff Lee 04-10-2013 04:59 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Do we know what classes these fall into?

Irace007 04-10-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Yes: fast, faster and fastest !! LOL

BLAZER 04-10-2013 05:59 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
NHRA have the specs on the 3 motors, soon they will post them-:eek: The 69 COPO's wont start production until june-july and august-

Larry Fulton 04-12-2013 07:27 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 374399)
TRANSMISSION: - Manual
o G-Force G101A 4-speed
o Gear ratios:
 2.933 1st
 1.867 2nd
 1.333 3rd
 1.000 4th
o Shifter – Long V-Gate
o Clutch – Ram adjustable 10.5”
o Flywheel – Ram steel 25 lb.
o Throw out bearing – Ram hydraulic

Cost of this Manual Transmission Option = $11,000

and btw, you don't get any credit for leaving the PG behind...

So we're clear, it's The Base Price of the car + $11,000 to obtain a "Stick" car

Jeff Lee 04-12-2013 07:56 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Fulton (Post 377241)
Cost of this Manual Transmission Option = $11,000

and btw, you don't get any credit for leaving the PG behind...

So we're clear, it's The Base Price of the car + $11,000 to obtain a "Stick" car

And then you can go buy a clutch that works, a mechanical linkage and a trans with better gearing! :eek:

FED 387 04-12-2013 08:14 PM

Re: Copo Camaro 2013
 
buy an auto ---sell the trans then go buy the right parts ---save $11000 up front plus whatever ya get for the "used glide stuff" and yer about $6000 ahead after the stick conversion to spend on other stuff


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