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Paul Ceasrine 03-21-2013 03:56 PM

1970 NHRA National Record Holders
 
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...9&d=1299308685

Paul Ceasrine 03-22-2013 06:02 AM

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Dave Boertman

1969 Chevrolet Biscayne,,,,,,,350/255 HP

Dave, knew how to pick the 'right car for the right class' better than any other Junior Stocker.

The 'yellow' 69' Biscyane {#3600 lbs.} classed in N/SA in 1970.


http://www.yenko.net/attachments/358504-bortman.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 03-22-2013 12:21 PM

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1967 Ford Fairlane Sedan 'Post Car'..... 427/410 HP..... 'W-Code'.......#3350 lbs.
NHRA Class = C/S

Tom Schumacher

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...5&d=1252970104

grncpe 03-23-2013 08:23 PM

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O/SA Sonny Freeman......nice to see him on there.That would be the
Hydrophobia wagon. I think 1971 was when he got the Pink Panther.
Some of you East coast guys will remember that 1. I have a good bit of info on that car....

GRAPE 03-24-2013 08:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 374779)
O/SA Sonny Freeman......nice to see him on there.That would be the
Hydrophobia wagon. I think 1971 was when he got the Pink Panther.
Some of you East coast guys will remember that 1. I have a good bit of info on that car....

How much info on the Pink Panther?

Paul Ceasrine 03-24-2013 02:16 PM

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'Hydrophobia'.............John Archambault

{Photo is from 1968},,,,,,,, when John was classed in J/SA and was running a {283/270 HP} 'Dual-Carb' combination.

In 1970, it was classed in O/SA (273/220 HP}

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...8&d=1247090645

grncpe 03-24-2013 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GRAPE (Post 374827)
How much info on the Pink Panther?

My dad was the wrench on the car.Sonny drove.When they got it from Tom,The car had a steel nose on it.When Tom was racing it he ran C/sa in the car.Sonny & my dad put it in SS/EA. They got the car into the 11 teens pretty easy on a 7" slick. They set the record @ colonial beach with the car @ 11.11.As the rules changed I believe around 72 they could run a 10" tire Petty engineering heads & also went to 4.56's the car went a 10.86 right off the trailer.I have tons of info on the car as I was in search of it about 2 years ago trying to locate it to buy it back to give to my dad.Last I heard a doctor has the car in New Jersey.Called him a few times & never got a response.I would love to have a chance to get it but it just does not seem like it is in the cards.Anyway any other info you would like message me.

Rich Biebel 03-24-2013 05:12 PM

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http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...Biebel0003.jpg


Built and maintained by Joe Simon and me Rich Biebel...
Engine from T/K, Ralph Truppi and Tommy Kling
Driven for the record run and backup by Ray Allen just to reduce the chances of any driver error.
We were down to the last opportunity of the year to get the record and decided to ask Ray to drive it and he did.
The car was sold to Rich Decola and Paul Delvecchio and in this picture it was on their ramp truck in the gas station I worked at for years.......and built and maintained the car there as well....

We ran faster than the ET record and much faster than the MPH record......and the car ran more than 2 tenths faster than the existing record on it's third pass.

It was previously run as a Super Stocker.....and owned by Andy Spaziani and run with a 396/375 and ran very well in SS/E

Rich Decola held the SS/J record with it......and I watched him make some runs with it in SS trim and was amazed at how much faster it was with a cam and intake change.....11.40's and that was with a flat tappet cam I think and 9 or 10 inch tires.....

Our biggest disappointment was not qualifying at the 1970 SummerNationals at York and also missing the field at E-Town the following year.......

Today most everyone gets to race eliminations.......Thats not how it was in the old days......and it was heartbreaking to work so hard and not get a chance to race the eliminator.....We suffered that fate everytime we ran a National event with 2 different cars......and it was the main reason I quit and did not race a car for about 10 years.......

Paul Ceasrine 03-24-2013 08:30 PM

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Hello,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=5883572

Bob Pagano 03-25-2013 11:40 AM

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Who got the Alum. Tom had ? I barowed it in 73 for Atco and painted it red for Steins 64.

Paul Ceasrine 03-25-2013 02:31 PM

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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...4&d=1250815290

grncpe 03-27-2013 06:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 375038)
Who got the Alum. Tom had ? I barowed it in 73 for Atco and painted it red for Steins 64.

Hi, I dont know.They never got the alum. The car had a steel nose when they got it. I learned alot more about the car while I was searching for it. You would have to ask Jerry.I had alot of help trying to locate it. Marco is a good source for info as well....I will load up some pics if you guys are interested..Tom

Charlie A 03-27-2013 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 375390)
hi, i dont know.they never got the alum. The car had a steel nose when they got it. I learned alot more about the car while i was searching for it. You would have to ask jerry.i had alot of help trying to locate it. Marco is a good source for info as well....i will load up some pics if you guys are interested..tom

interested !!!!!

Dennis P Chapman 03-27-2013 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 374915)
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o...Biebel0003.jpg


Built and maintained by Joe Simon and me Rich Biebel...
Engine from T/K, Ralph Truppi and Tommy Kling
Driven for the record run and backup by Ray Allen just to reduce the chances of any driver error.
We were down to the last opportunity of the year to get the record and decided to ask Ray to drive it and he did.
The car was sold to Rich Decola and Paul Delvecchio and in this picture it was on their ramp truck in the gas station I worked at for years.......and built and maintained the car there as well....

We ran faster than the ET record and much faster than the MPH record......and the car ran more than 2 tenths faster than the existing record on it's third pass.

It was previously run as a Super Stocker.....and owned by Andy Spaziani and run with a 396/375 and ran very well in SS/E

Rich Decola held the SS/J record with it......and I watched him make some runs with it in SS trim and was amazed at how much faster it was with a cam and intake change.....11.40's and that was with a flat tappet cam I think and 9 or 10 inch tires.....

Our biggest disappointment was not qualifying at the 1970 SummerNationals at York and also missing the field at E-Town the following year.......

Today most everyone gets to race eliminations.......Thats not how it was in the old days......and it was heartbreaking to work so hard and not get a chance to race the eliminator.....We suffered that fate everytime we ran a National event with 2 different cars......and it was the main reason I quit and did not race a car for about 10 years.......

Rich what ever happen to the nova after you sold it to Rich and Paul.

Paul Ceasrine 03-28-2013 07:58 AM

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Pink Panther (left side of photo).

At Maple Grove, '1971' NED 1 Points Meet

http://tmccrea.smugmug.com/photos/806956588_SL4b3-L.jpg

grncpe 03-28-2013 06:14 PM

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Great picture! I did not have that 1. I have to load my pics to photobucket so I can load some on here.They said my photo's are too large.Tom

GRAPE 03-29-2013 05:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 375038)
Who got the Alum. Tom had ? I barowed it in 73 for Atco and painted it red for Steins 64.

Here is a pic of the car in 1988 or 1989
Don Owens who was partners with Tom ,located the car in 1988-89 and bought it.Don got a Alum. nose with the car but I do not think it was the orig alum.Don sold the car to some one in NJ with out the Alum.

Rich Biebel 03-29-2013 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 375406)
Rich what ever happen to the nova after you sold it to Rich and Paul.

Dennis..

Rich Decola raced it for a number of years but I have no idea what happened to the car after about the mid 70's...

I saw Rich a few years ago up at Lebanon Valley....He was racing a mid 80's Camaro....

He moved to NC I think....

Paul Delvecchio passed a long time ago....I saw him at many races and was sad to learn he became ill and passed....
I think he crewed with Joe Santangelo Sr. when he raced Comp.....but I am a little vague on that memory....

Mark Yacavone 03-29-2013 11:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 375710)
Dennis..

Rich Decola raced it for a number of years but I have no idea what happened to the car after about the mid 70's...

I saw Rich a few years ago up at Lebanon Valley....He was racing a mid 80's Camaro....

He moved to NC I think....

Paul Delvecchio passed a long time ago....I saw him at many races and was sad to learn he became ill and passed....
I think he crewed with Joe Santangelo Sr. when he raced Comp.....but I am a little vague on that memory....

All correct for the most part.
After we built the 66 HT 327/275 Chevy II and re-set the record with it,
Richie decided to put a Powerglide in his car. Sometime after ,it got painted all white, and Richie lent it to Joe Kenney, who took it out to the Winternationals one year.
After that Joe and Richie both got into 65 Chevelles with the 327 /250 combo.
The 68 car was sold to someone in Ct. or NY I think.
It was just a white Chevy II , and basically unrecognizable from it's earlier glory.
I'll have to ask Richie about it next time.

Rich Biebel 03-30-2013 08:59 AM

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Mark....I was pretty sure I saw it after it was repainted white but thought I might have not had the color right.
The original paint was kind of a sore spot with me.....
I wanted some Z/28 type panels painted on the original factory color....Teal Blue.
After a trip to a local painter who must have inhaled too many paint fumes it had colors all over it.
I fixed some of the mess he made by covering some of what he messed up and shot some clear on it....
.My buddy called it Little Multi-Color....
Tony Feil who was known for his sharp tongue.....said...."Who spit-up on your car" when he saw it.......thanks Tony....

Rich D. had an earlier Nova for a while too. SS/JA 327

He had one unique tow vehivle at one time too I think...
A Checker airport limo car......8 doors....

When I worked at Crow's Head Shop we did heads for him as well as Joe Santangelo.....and many, others....

Joe Kenney was a fun guy....and we hung out at the beer stand at Sanair in 1970....Only track I was ever at that had one.....and they had a bar in the tower....

Paul Ceasrine 03-30-2013 11:02 AM

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Al Corda

1964 Plymouth Belvedere Wagon { 426 / 410 HP 'Max-Wedge' }

E/SA..............11.94 @ 115.22 MPH

* Never saw one on a 'Plymouth Dealership Lot'.......

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6058/alcorda03.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 03-30-2013 03:41 PM

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This could be the 'Pink Panther'

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7...rningtrack.jpg

GRAPE 03-30-2013 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 375811)

It looks like Thats Life on deck lid

grncpe 03-30-2013 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GRAPE (Post 375818)
It looks like Thats Life on deck lid

That is it.I have that picture also. I found out that Owens had alum with the car but it was not the original.The last guy that sold it had some alum. with it.The car was for sale in hemmings. The add just said it was a original black,with red int. high comp. lightweight.Nothing was said about it being the panther.

Rich Biebel 03-31-2013 08:01 AM

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The smoldering rubber on the pavement is a tipoff that water burnouts were not commonly done yet....

If you wanted to heat up your tires you did dry burnouts.....and everyone did.....on the way up to the line....it was a bit crazy at times back there...

jackarnew 03-31-2013 08:51 PM

Re: 1970 NHRA National Record Holders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grncpe (Post 374912)
My dad was the wrench on the car.Sonny drove.When they got it from Tom,The car had a steel nose on it.When Tom was racing it he ran C/sa in the car.Sonny & my dad put it in SS/EA. They got the car into the 11 teens pretty easy on a 7" slick. They set the record @ colonial beach with the car @ 11.11.As the rules changed I believe around 72 they could run a 10" tire Petty engineering heads & also went to 4.56's the car went a 10.86 right off the trailer.I have tons of info on the car as I was in search of it about 2 years ago trying to locate it to buy it back to give to my dad.Last I heard a doctor has the car in New Jersey.Called him a few times & never got a response.I would love to have a chance to get it but it just does not seem like it is in the cards.Anyway any other info you would like message me.

Hi GRNCPE
Rember Sonny well. He was a hard racer with a very fast car
(PINK PANTHER). I sold my crew cab and trailer,or rather traded them to him for a new crewcab Ford F350 body and frame Around the time he purchased the Plymouth. Sonny painted the rig pink ,the same color as the car. Made a good looking pair going down the road.
Ran Sonny at Colonial Beach with my SS/A Cuda for the money one Sunday during a SS show. He took the money. I said he had a fast car.

Jack

Dennis P Chapman 03-31-2013 10:15 PM

Re: 1970 NHRA National Record Holders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 375710)
Dennis..

Rich Decola raced it for a number of years but I have no idea what happened to the car after about the mid 70's...

I saw Rich a few years ago up at Lebanon Valley....He was racing a mid 80's Camaro....

He moved to NC I think....

Paul Delvecchio passed a long time ago....I saw him at many races and was sad to learn he became ill and passed....
I think he crewed with Joe Santangelo Sr. when he raced Comp.....but I am a little vague on that memory....

Thanks for the repley Rich

Paul Ceasrine 10-14-2015 05:28 AM

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1970 NHRA National Records

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...e8&oe=5686A4CC

Geerhead55 10-14-2015 01:49 PM

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Wonder how many of those racers on the list are still actively racing all these 45 years later? I know Cal Method(P/S), Pete Kost(F/SA) and Al Corda(E/SA) are still at it,,, how about any others?
Danny Durham

Rich Biebel 10-14-2015 02:06 PM

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I am and have been pretty actively racing since 1980 in a lot of different cars and classes.

Started in 1966 so next year will mark 50 years since I started racing!

I migrated away from Stock/Super Stock many years ago but have had a couple stockers over the years...

mopar68 10-14-2015 04:47 PM

Re: 1970 NHRA National Record Holders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 375787)
Al Corda

1964 Plymouth Belvedere Wagon { 426 / 410 HP 'Max-Wedge' }

E/SA..............11.94 @ 115.22 MPH

* Never saw one on a 'Plymouth Dealership Lot'.......

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6058/alcorda03.jpg

http://114.imagebam.com/download/HcA...9/al_corda.jpg

Geerhead55 10-15-2015 02:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 485063)
I am and have been pretty actively racing since 1980 in a lot of different cars and classes.

Started in 1966 so next year will mark 50 years since I started racing!

I migrated away from Stock/Super Stock many years ago but have had a couple stockers over the years...

Ah yes,,, I see your name on the H/S record. Care to tell us about that car and combo?
Danny Durham

Charlie A 10-15-2015 04:13 PM

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Max Wedge Wagon??


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f45528841f.jpg

TOM KASCH 10-16-2015 08:18 AM

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1970 class winners , other to big to upload.

Charlie A 10-16-2015 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM KASCH (Post 485196)
1970 class winners , other to big to upload.


http://classracer.com/classforum/att...9&d=1444997888

TOM KASCH 10-16-2015 03:52 PM

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May 1970 SS class records:

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...s%20%206_1.jpg

TOM KASCH 10-16-2015 03:56 PM

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1970 INDY SS class winners:
http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...0Winners-1.jpg

Rich Biebel 10-16-2015 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 485141)
Ah yes,,, I see your name on the H/S record. Care to tell us about that car and combo?
Danny Durham

1968 Chevy II ....Teal Blue....
350/295 Muncie 4 speed...2.5 first and 4.88's
Schiefer PP with a GM disc...Hurst super shifter...Hooker Headers.
Lakewood bars....M&H tires...7" on 4" wide wheels....air pressure was very low but that was what many of us did to get traction...

Made for a very uncomfortable ride sometimes at 112-113MPH

T/K built engine.....We re-rung it ourselves at Tony Feil's....after 1 season...

Pistons were Forgedtru's.....popular back then......
Tried about 3 cams.....
I preferred the Lunati over 2 other GK's.....
The Lunati could run more rpm without floating the valves.
Stock springs had about 84lbs on the seat....!

Had a lot of trouble keeping a trans in good shifting condition......stock syncros did not like missed gears....One miss and that was not good....
Springs went away and 2 MPH's were gone.....

Was hard to hook in poor traction conditions with that trans and rear gear.

Changing transmission first gear and maybe flywheel and or rear gear would have helped in mid summer on poor traction...

We had no benefit from concrete.....most tracks were asphalt and traction was limited...

All stick cars spun off the line a little....on a real bad track it spun a lot....
On a real good track you could bog it......Was very touchy..........I never stopped working on it or fixing it and we did not have much of a budget

Trans....valve springs....trying different crazy setups with the slapper bars.....all added up to working on it practically every night at the gas station I worked at....

Setting that record and winning Stock Eliminator at 2 different tracks on the same weekend was a couple high points with it....

We intended to assemble it with an automatic trans at first...
We thought a Turbo was going to be allowed....it was not...P/G only
I just hated P/G's back then and thought they would never work.....!
WRONG !!!
Bernie Agaman put the same type car together and it ran very well right away.....with the P/G. Ran as fast as the Mopars of the era that ruled the class......

We would have been way better off had we ran it with a P/G.....

Hindsight is 20-20

Paul Ceasrine 10-17-2015 05:54 AM

Re: 1970 NHRA National Record Holders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 485262)
1968 Chevy II ....Teal Blue....
350/295 Muncie 4 speed...2.5 first and 4.88's
Schiefer PP with a GM disc...Hurst super shifter...Hooker Headers.
Lakewood bars....M&H tires...7" on 4" wide wheels....air pressure was very low but that was what many of us did to get traction...

Made for a very uncomfortable ride sometimes at 112-113MPH

T/K built engine.....We re-rung it ourselves at Tony Feil's....after 1 season...

Pistons were Forgedtru's.....popular back then......
Tried about 3 cams.....
I preferred the Lunati over 2 other GK's.....
The Lunati could run more rpm without floating the valves.
Stock springs had about 84lbs on the seat....!

Had a lot of trouble keeping a trans in good shifting condition......stock syncros did not like missed gears....One miss and that was not good....
Springs went away and 2 MPH's were gone.....

Was hard to hook in poor traction conditions with that trans and rear gear.

Changing transmission first gear and maybe flywheel and or rear gear would have helped in mid summer on poor traction...

We had no benefit from concrete.....most tracks were asphalt and traction was limited...

All stick cars spun off the line a little....on a real bad track it spun a lot....
On a real good track you could bog it......Was very touchy..........I never stopped working on it or fixing it and we did not have much of a budget

Trans....valve springs....trying different crazy setups with the slapper bars.....all added up to working on it practically every night at the gas station I worked at....

Setting that record and winning Stock Eliminator at 2 different tracks on the same weekend was a couple high points with it....

We intended to assemble it with an automatic trans at first...
We thought a Turbo was going to be allowed....it was not...P/G only
I just hated P/G's back then and thought they would never work.....!
WRONG !!!
Bernie Agaman put the same type car together and it ran very well right away.....with the P/G. Ran as fast as the Mopars of the era that ruled the class......

We would have been way better off had we ran it with a P/G.....

Hindsight is 20-20


Rich,

Which Mopars were running in H/Stock in the {10.50 to 10.99 Wt/HP Class} that were competitive.

Rich Biebel 10-17-2015 09:24 AM

Re: 1970 NHRA National Record Holders
 
If my memory is correct the 383/343 wagons ran H/SA back then.

Joe Kenny and others ran them....


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