Danny Byrd
 

Anybody know what engine combo Danny is running at Indy in D/S?

Thanks

Re: Danny Byrd
 

I'm pretty sure he's running the 350 horse 327.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Yes... L79 - 350HP / 327".... factored down from the factory rating

Re: Danny Byrd
 

What a no brainer decision this is......327/275/274 vs 327/350/287!

Did I read the tech sheet correctly because the way I read it for 13 HP here is what you get:

Heads, Valves, CAM, Compression ,an Aluminum High Rise Manifold, and a bit more carb.

Naah..I must be dreaming or is this combination really a gift?

Sure makes me wish I had a 66 deuce 4 speed !

Re: Danny Byrd
 

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Re: Danny Byrd
 

Wouldnt it be a little less carb? The holley is rated at 585.the q jet around 700cfm.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Hey Lynn..How are ya man?!

The way I read the 66 blueprint specs it looks like both combos us a small Holley but the carb notes appear to me that the 350 hp is a bit bigger than the 275 hp.

In 67 the 275 used a QJet which is obviously superior, but the 350 disappeared at the end of 66 unless it hung around in a Corvette but I'm too lazy to look. I know one thing- there was never a 327/350 offered in a Camaro. Not even in a 69 car which which offered the most engine options I have ever seen.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

The q-jet is an optional carb in the 66 275 horse combo.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Danny Byrd is FAST no matter what carb he has!

Re: Danny Byrd
 

I had A (used) '67 327 / 325(?) in a Malibu. That was a real thorn to 400 hp GTO's and 396-350hp.
And they were still offered in a 67 Nova all models to a SS.

1968 New Body Chevelle it was still rated at 325. Exhaust was the excuse.


http://www.oldride.com/library/1967_chevrolet_nova.html

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Didnt the 68 327/325 combo have a cast iron intake & Q-jet ? A guy used to run one at Miami

Re: Danny Byrd
 

No question Danny is Fast.. he was always fast in Top Stock too.

He is also very clever in picking this combination over the 275

Re: Danny Byrd
 

<Mine had a 585 Holley and Winters stamped * alum manifold.>

Same hyd. #151 hydraulic cam. The 327-350(325) hp engine could give many big blocks a run for their money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My friend had a *66 4sp Malibu bench with a 327/275 and I put the GM-151-350 hp cam ,poly locks..jetted and a set of OK-Kustom headers.. dam thing was a terror @ high 12s on old MH 'ers and had GTOs running scared.

For most ,that combo had some cred back in 1970.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Mike....I think the Holley carb has always been the the 'soft' spot for the Deuce 327ci 350hp combo, at least before it was refactored. I've been eyeing this combo for quite some time, so am pretty sure about the carb issue.

Danny might be reshaping the argument however, as he's got that car running. Deuce's are just plain cool race cars, no matter what.

D. Whitmore

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Wow, Is Mike Keener going back racing. Since keener is moving back home to Mi.

George Krieger
3610 SS/GT

Re: Danny Byrd
 

I like the last sentence! :cool:

I would like the 350/327 in SS in my '66 chevy II...:)

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Mike , back in about 72-73 , the 540 Holley was the only carb available on the 66 Chevy II.
Joe Santangelo's original 66 ht ran 11.11 on our 11.33 record with that carb. at the end of '73. That car was nowhere near what we have in STOCK today. (2.52 Muncie, 28x9 slicks, 5.13's with slapper bars, NO roll bar)
I started to build a 66 post car for SS/E ..where the record was 11.10 at that time, and you got to use a 585 Holley..That project got sidelined when the index system was rumored.
You could use the Carter AVS in 66, but not the Qjet (I'm pretty sure Mike Moller used the AVS on his SS/K wagon)
Larry Tores came out with the 67 post car with a Q jet, and after a while ,NHRA relented on the Qjet 66 car.

The SS/GT car that Byron Setters has ,is the Corvette 300 hp version (585 carb), with some HP taken off, compared to the Qjet. I guess he and Gary Hettler tried to get some more off for the 540 Holley Chevy II engine, which should be somewhere in between the 65 4GC version, and what he has now, but NHRA said NO..Enough of this.
There ya go..best I can remember all this.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Yes. A friend of mine had one (original equipment) in a 68 Chevy II and I had one that came out of a Chevelle. Same pistons, heads, (2.02 intakes) and camshaft as the 350 H.P. motor but with a cast intake and Q-Jet.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Isn't the 327/325 a hydraulic cam engine? 327/350 is mechanical cam. Not that the lifter spec matters anymore...

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Both the 327/275 and 327/350 have hydraulic cams.

Tom

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Jeff, I believe you are thinking of the Corvette 327/ 340, 365 and FI versions.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Both engines use Hyd lifter, 275 HP has .399 lift and 350 HP has .447. The L-79 does get the new Quick Fuel carb if you want over the Holley.

The 1966 327/275 has a three carb option; Q-jet, AVS, and the small(er) Holley.

Correct, one bad little duce.. by the Byrd man,,,

Re: Danny Byrd
 

I have been in the auto repair business since the 1950"s, and worked on a ton of these cars, I also raced a record holding ,1966 Chevy II, in SS/H in the 1980"s . The majority of the 1966, Chevy 327, 275 Hp engines in all body styles, that I have came across, had the Q-Jet carb! I even have the the original NHRA spec sheets, that I received from our Div 5 tech director, in the late 60's, showing all 3 carbs, available, and I tried them all. The Q-Jet was by far the fastest!
Eddie Rezac

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Jim and Eddie are correct.

The '66 327-275's had three carbs accepted: the small Holley (about 550-585 cfm), the Carter AVS (not the AFB) and the Q-Jet.

Until the QJets were accepted by NHRA, there were lots of '66's that were changed over to '67's. -Al

Re: Danny Byrd
 

I just realized I had conflicting info in the same post.
The AVS was available on the Chevy II , also , but not The Qjet, according to NHRA, in 73-74.
I'm sure the Qjet would have been available on all body styles, but NHRA sure as hell wouldn't let us use it.
Incidentally, we were No.1 qualifier at the '73 World Finals in Amarillo , (using the 540 Holley) with the original h.t. "Bad Jose" car, which is now part of Eddie Chin's fleet in Rhode Island.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Man this has turned in to a very interesting thread!

Haven't seen this much tech talk on this engine for year's but I do know this. If this engine were available in a Camaro at it's current factor, I would build it for sure.

Nice going Danny!

PS Hey George! How are ya man!

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Let's get this straight...
The q-jet was a 1967 release and prior to that you got your GM's with various forms of Carter carbs and Holley Carbs for single 4bbl and then there were 2x4 carters and tri-powers on assorted GM vehicles. In fact, except for the 3x2 'Vettes, the tri-powers were last seen in 1966 due to the introduction of the q-jet in 1967.
And just to be clear, I've not only worked at gas stations and dealer service bays, but I know my Uncle had a '66 Chevy II with a 327 / 275 and so did three guys I grew up with in Brooklyn and nobody ever heard of a 1966 anything q-jet from GM. In fact, my best friend's butt-buddy has some documents that will prove this is baloney. And I've got a lot of car magazines that can prove my point also. And they date back to 1965 and none of them mention a 66 q-jet except for the release announcement in the October 1966 issue of "Fast Cars and Big-Uns" which as you all know is the definitive source of all things GM in the 1960's.
Something smells rotten in Denmark and I'm going to get to the bottom of this with NHRA!

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Actually there were a lot of GM cars with a Q jet in 66 and even some in 65. The 396 / 325 Impala had a Q jet. Also all of the SS 396 / 325 Chevelles had a Q jet , the 360 horse had a Holley. I also think there were a bunch of Buicks and Oldsmobiles that had Q jets and I would bet Cadillacs. I can't swear to a 66 Chevy 11 with a 327 but it wouldn't surprise me. In 67 everyone got Q jets.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Jeff ,I guess you've never seen a 65 Chevy 396/325 with a Qjet, either then?
That was the first actual usage by GM.
1966 saw Buick, Olds and Cadillac use them.
The only Pontiac to use them in 66 was the OHC 230 6 cylinder.
The same basic carb was later used on the 500 ci Caddy, proving the versatility of the Quadrajet.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Jeff,
First of all, I am pretty sure your friend and his friend really appreciates that comment about their relationship.
Another thing. This has nothing to do with AMCs so let it go. You need to spend all of your energy getting your own stuff ready. LOL.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

I don't know about all of these posts but ...
My brother had a non drag race, stock 327-350 and it was a rocket ship for the time - it weighed an once (2875) and beat anything it came up against. May not relate to NHRA stock eliminator but I have always felt it was one of the fastest cars ever produced in America. He beat my '61 Plymouth with a 413 and 2 4bls - for which I have never forgiven him ...

BTW - I thought the 442 Olds had q-jets in '64

Go easy on me I am old

Ron

Re: Danny Byrd
 

The only GM cars that didn't have the Qjet in 67 were the Pontiac Bonneville and Grand Prix 4bbl 400s..The Firebird and GTO did get the Q jet though.

I guess it should be noted that the original Qjet didn't use the choke pull off to dampen the secondaries..but rather a plunger valve in well that was filled with gas from the float bowl.
Of course you don't have to use that style today in NHRA racing.

Re: Danny Byrd
 

No. They had a fairly large 4GC 4-jet

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Jeff Lee:

Undoubtedly, the most common on the '66 327/275 from the factory was the small Holley, followed by the AVS and the QJ. That the QJ's weren't on the majority of cars is true...but what's also true is they DID come on some of them.

NHRA recognized this, and ruled on the legality of the QJ on the '66 327/275's. End of story.

Some of use have been around long enough to know and remember what happened, both as racers and/or NHRA Technical Advisors. -Al

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Hey guys, looks like I won the bet. And it had nothing to do with any q-jets...:p

Re: Danny Byrd
 

LMAO! I don't think Jeff's car really exist! HAHA

Re: Danny Byrd
 

And I've never been in Brooklyn either. And I never had an Uncle with a Chevy II. And I don't have any issue of "Fast Cars and Big Uns", do you? :rolleyes:
But I have worked at gas stations.

What AMX?

Re: Danny Byrd
 

[QUOTE=Alan Nyhus;379700]Jeff Lee:

Undoubtedly, the most common on the '66 327/275 from the factory was the small Holley, followed by the AVS and the QJ. That the QJ's weren't on the majority of cars is true...but what's also true is they DID come on some of them.

I thought this was a 327/350HP combo????

Re: Danny Byrd
 

The 327-350 does have the small Holley, not the QJet.

The thread veered off track into what was legal on what combos of 327's...hence all the different references to small Holleys, AVS's and QJ's. -Al

Re: Danny Byrd
 

Danny will always be fast, he is the only guy I know crazier than Herb McCandless Sr about.......Wait I cant tell this secret.