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NHRA Levies Fines Against Participant
The NHRA imposed a two thousand five hundred ($2,500) fine against David Barton for violating NHRA Rules, particularly Section 1.3.1 of the 2013 NHRA Rulebook on Participant Conduct at the recently completed Toyota NHRA Summernationals at Old Bridge Township Raceway Park in Englishtown, N.J. Barton engaged in inappropriate behavior and used profanity after receiving instructions from NHRA’s Chief Starter to return to his vehicle and exit the race track during the second round of eliminations. Barton also is required to formally apologize to NHRA’s Chief Starter for his unacceptable sportsmanship. Any further incidents will result in additional disciplinary action up to, and including, suspension of competition privileges. The fine must be paid in full prior to Barton being eligible to participate at any future NHRA events. The fine is appealable, as outlined in section 1, pages 16-23 of the 2013 NHRA Rulebook.


Should take up a collection and pay this.

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I would pay it in pennies if I was Barton.





Just my .02 cents!

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Can the racers levy a fine against NHRA for not supplying us with the proper racing surface? This is BS that a guy, who spun his *** off on a sub par National Event track, can't vent a little for NHRA failing to establish the proper racing surface. Just my opinion.

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So counterfeit SFI tags cost $5000, words cost $2500. NHRA should have refunded hi entry, not fined him

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And you think they would have done anything differently? You can tell from Barton's recent posts that he is still hot. Think the apology will be the tough part to swallow. Think the starter apologized to all the racers that lost because of the track? You think the Pro Stock guys don't bit.. at the starter when the tracks are always prepped for the fuel cars regardless of what they need? Sure they do, but they make clutch and other changes to compensate. If class racers are going to play by NHRA's rules then they've got to be prepared to do the same.

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dead on with a zero!

When are you guys going to wake up out of your coma and stand united?

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This fine is pure Bullsh**!!!

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I'll contribute to the " like what Barton did " fund :-)

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X 2 !
this is an unacceptable practice. NHRA should have a safe, fair place to race, not a skating rink. more people will wreck or be killed on these unsafe tracks! NHRA "dedicated to safety", Right.....

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I already wrecked this car before due to poor track prep. At the 2011 Dutch Classic, my car owner asked the starter to check out our lane because the track looked funny on one side of the lane after the snowmobiles ran. The starter looked over and ignored to check it out for himself. Seconds later I stuffed it into the wall. It went straight for the center line and I tried to steer it back but it got away from me.

And keep in mind my car owner never would have stopped me after the burnout unless there was something wrong.

Here's the video. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/HVY2...ARTON.mp4.html

At Englishtown my car owner asked the starter if he could drag the track to do something about the bald spots. His reply was that there wasn't enough time because they had a schedule to stick to. Boy, we feel really important. I paid my entry fee didn't I?

BTW, I'm taking donations to pay for this fine if anyone is feeling generous. I'm 33 years old and I'm trying to support my family. The last thing I have is $2500 to pay for this absurd fine for trying to speak up.

And one more thing. The letter I received mentioned several times about how they want to keep everything at a professional level. How is neglecting the starting line being professional? And how professional was the starting line crew when they were flat out ignoring everyone. People were even getting booted off the line for looking at it. If the track was any good nobody would bother to look ahead of time.

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David, I applaud you for having the balls to let them know how you felt about those deplorable track conditions. IMO everyone that spun should make a donation towards paying your fine, for you verbalizing on the track to the officials how they too felt. Better yet EVERY sportsman class racer that competed at this event should stand with you and tell the NHRA to reverse the fine as well the call for an apology.

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I am really surprised they didnt give you the anderson fine also for removing safety equipment.

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David put your paypal account info up. I'll even throw in some flip cup money..

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Post your Paypal info.

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If it was Schumacher or Force do you think there would have been a fine? If you do then your one of the NHRA kool aid drinkers.

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NHRA>>>>

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb526a1f7.jpg

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Don't forget your "formal apology" to NHRA's chief starter. :)

http://i1074.photobucket.com/albums/...sbf2d493a.jpeg

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That's awesome

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WOW!!!! thats great---maybe we all should apologize en mass

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Was`nt espn continually talking about the bike jockeys goin at in the pits. did they get fined? did they get suspended. if they didn't we are looking at a one sided organization still.






Glad to be an ex-racer.

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Apologize?
Just don't patronize NHRA anymore, just like the fans didn't at Englishtown.

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I would more than happy to give Dave money for the fine, But would also give more to his appeal and legal fees to bring the treatment of sportsman racers safaty just to keep on time. I am sure there are vidios , other racers statements going all the way back to the winters to bring this to a head.Many racers where put in a unsafe situation on more than one time due to poor track prep. Maybe they realy don,t know after all they realy are not racers and they do not know what it takes for a sportsman racer to get to there inhanced show. There meger attemp to raise monies with fines lately to make up on lost revenews shows there desperation to make ends meet. I am sure weather has hit there pocket book with houston and atlanta hard with lost income. { Ken how about getting spell check on here?} Tom

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I can't help but wonder how NHRA would've handled it if, when Stock/SS were called to the lanes, all the competitors drove right past the staging director and parked on the track in protest.

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I think a fair deal is apologize to the starter as he was probably just doing as he was told, NHRA drops the fine as there was obviously issues with the track.

Jim Mantle

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I wouldn't pay the rotten ******ds a dime.

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147 * $2,500 = $367,500.... "No problem!" :rolleyes:

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Just curious, does anyone know what they do with the money that is collected for these fines that they are levying on these racers?

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It funds John Force's voice coach.

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Probably a fine and a 1 year suspension. The first problem you would have is some wouldn't have the guts(ill use that word) to do it. If you think I wouldn't you don't know me to well.

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David, sorry about the mishap. I beleive as long as they keep using PJ1 traction compound the problem will continue. Conditions will get much worst when the track surface gets above 100. All you need to do is just walk on the starting line and see if your shoe sticks to the track???? I am sure you have experienced a track like that. Ever since they started using PJ1 the starting line has not been sticky. This is a real problem for high HP cars. At No Problem, when you would walk on the track, it would pull your shoes off! In 2013, I have not noticed my shoes coming off and bald spots a plenty. The only thing different is everyone is using PJ1! That's what I noticed.

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They'll never get enough.

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They don't want the track that sticky, it pulls the nitro cars tires apart.
In the past you almost never had this kind of problem, they changed something.
The summer nationals was always smoking hot!!!

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I know I am not very smart but why can't the pros with their 20 employees on the starting line figure out how to get down the track with a Pro Stock and Sportsman prep?

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Looks like he was fined as well.

http://www.nhra.com/story/2013/6/5/d...n-englishtown/

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Boy with all these fines coming in 'Ol Compton will have quite a stash of beer money! Jim


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Tom Compton's beer fund.

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Or legal fees.:rolleyes:Jim


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FYI, PJ1 is VHT, the manufacturer just changed the name:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ1_TrackBite


Here's a post by Jeff Foster from DRR:

http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...426#2547096426