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Jack Matyas 06-11-2013 07:15 AM

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After a long, hard day at work yesterday I came home to a letter from the NHRA informing me that I once again broke the rules at the recent Summernationals .Trouble is no one talked to me there about this infraction or even looked at my car about it .Seems my 'friends' at the NHRA didn't have big enough brass ones to even say anything about this at the race .Is this the new face of NHRA ? Hide behind an unsigned letter - please ! !

Are they trying to chase away even their best supporters ? ?

All this only days away from the next event .....Hmmmmm.

SGE1340 06-11-2013 07:22 AM

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You can not be serious! they never said anything at the race about it?

1320racer 06-11-2013 07:53 AM

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where's your friend "director" lang?

You need better friends in higher places!

Ultimate Converter Concepts 06-11-2013 08:29 AM

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Wow Jack, it would look like someone's playing the fiddle while Rome is burning?

keith ohanesian 06-11-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultimate Converter Concepts (Post 385742)
Wow Jack, it would look like someone's playing the fiddle while Rome is burning?

YES it would be Rome NY that is burning. That's a spineless Rick Campbell move.

Tom Goldman 06-11-2013 08:42 AM

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I find it more ridiculous that you are allowed to modify the trunk floor for wheelie bar clearance on a Stocker ,but cannot slot the lower valance 2" !
They allow GT cars to be slotted because of clearance issues, but no other cars can .
If the need for a slot exisits on one type of car , why not the others with similar clearance issues ?

1320racer 06-11-2013 08:44 AM

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Tom, was it you that altered or customized, notched or slotted the rear bumper cover for wheelie bar clearaance of Jack's car?

Todd Hoven 06-11-2013 08:54 AM

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I have a friend who has his vallance slotted for his wheelie bar. He had a discussion with NHRA tech about it and it was never brought up again.
Sounds like its time to get Chevrolet involved with a new superceeded part number for a real valance for exhaust cleanance that wheelie bars fit through. This is when NHRA can be a bit out of touch.

HR9121 06-11-2013 09:03 AM

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They must like you Jack, atleast they didn't fine you 5k.

1320racer 06-11-2013 09:07 AM

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Rules are for EVERYONE even those who call the "division director" friend.

Rusty Davenport 06-11-2013 09:18 AM

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Well is it a rule infraction or not ??? If it is what is the problem ????

Tom Goldman 06-11-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 385748)
Tom, was it you that altered or customized, notched or slotted the rear bumper cover for wheelie bar clearaance of Jack's car?

Yep, I'm guilty.
I've got to go back to school and re read the rule book !
I wonder if they will consider a crushed lower valance to also be illegally modified?

CFM 06-11-2013 10:28 AM

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Thrown under the bus, damn.

MikeFicacci 06-11-2013 10:36 AM

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We received the same letter for one of the cars. We were told at Virginia that the letter was coming and to fix it immediately. Jack, you and I spoke about the phone call you received 6 weeks ago stated that you could no longer notch the bumper and you stated that you have another you can easily put on. Your post may seem unclear to some as is seems to state that this is the first you are being told of them bumper issue. I am not supporting the decision of NHRA giving us 2 days to fix it from when we are formally notified but the fact remains, we were told about this months ago.

1320racer 06-11-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 385734)
After a long, hard day at work yesterday I came home to a letter from the NHRA informing me that I once again broke the rules at the recent Summernationals .Trouble is no one talked to me there about this infraction or even looked at my car about it

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Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 385770)
Jack, you and I spoke about the phone call you received 6 weeks ago stated that you could no longer notch the bumper and you stated that you have another you can easily put on. we are formally notified but the fact remains, we were told about this months ago.

don't you just hate it when the truth and the facts get in the way of a good story or in this case complaint.;)

Randall Klein 06-11-2013 12:26 PM

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I like some give and take as well as the next guy, but 'ya know Mr 1320 your posts have a certain odor about them that drifts clear through my screen...like the kid in preschool that chants nana nana goo goo at the real players. The little burr under your saddle is a little old

Jason 06-11-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeFicacci (Post 385770)
We received the same letter for one of the cars. We were told at Virginia that the letter was coming and to fix it immediately. Jack, you and I spoke about the phone call you received 6 weeks ago stated that you could no longer notch the bumper and you stated that you have another you can easily put on. Your post may seem unclear to some as is seems to state that this is the first you are being told of them bumper issue. I am not supporting the decision of NHRA giving us 2 days to fix it from when we are formally notified but the fact remains, we were told about this months ago.

When old age sets in, the memory is the second thing that quits working. Since this is a family oriented forum, we will not mention the first thing to go.

richie 2 06-11-2013 12:38 PM

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X2 on the randall on 1320. Lang & Campbell are doing their jobs. I doubt its up to them how they inform racers of their D1 concerns...

Jeff Lee 06-11-2013 12:40 PM

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I think a pair of hinged bumper guards should be added...:D

Rat Raceway 06-11-2013 12:49 PM

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WOW!

I have seen another COPO that has a notched rear valance for wheelie bars and he was racing.

Do they jump on everyone or is it up to the track to enforce it?

HR9121 06-11-2013 01:01 PM

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Thank you Mr Klein.

7423 06-11-2013 01:55 PM

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Wonder why 1320 racer has such a hard on for Ole Jack and his notched rear valance.

1320racer 06-11-2013 02:06 PM

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I don't, never met "Ole Jack", just don't enjoy half stories, half truths and undeserved *** kissing.

jmcarter 06-11-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 7423 (Post 385809)
Wonder why 1320 racer has such a hard on for Ole Jack and his notched rear valance.

He's been on him before but Big Jack just brushes it aside like a gentleman. Jack is a 'glass half full' type of guy so he must appear an easy target. Personally, I like it when bracket racers get on the forum and ask good questions and make positive points. Think even constructively offered counterpoints (i.e. the soccer analogy by Dan Farley) are generally good for the forum if taken with an open mind.

Jack, assume you saw the SRAC minutes thread on the notched valance issue and many other items. Mike Crutchfield and the other SRAC members do an awesome job IMHO considering they must feel like they are usually pushing a rope.

1320racer 06-11-2013 02:22 PM

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I have not been on him before and he is no target. He's just another racer posting on an internet forum. He's made some statements that I disagree with and I've stated my opinion about his statements. I'm sure "Ole Jack" doesn't lose a moments sleep about it as I don't.

Ed Wright 06-11-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 385786)
I like some give and take as well as the next guy, but 'ya know Mr 1320 your posts have a certain odor about them that drifts clear through my screen...like the kid in preschool that chants nana nana goo goo at the real players. The little burr under your saddle is a little old

Randall, he keeps forgetting where the et bracket section is located. :-)

7423 06-11-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 385816)
I have not been on him before and he is no target. He's just another racer posting on an internet forum. He's made some statements that I disagree with and I've stated my opinion about his statements. I'm sure "Ole Jack" doesn't lose a moments sleep about it as I don't.

You are right 1320, a used car guy will never lose any sleep.
You seem to have a lil' Jersey 'tude in your keyboard..........jus sayin'

Randall Klein 06-11-2013 03:15 PM

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Look, I read all posts, some have good input and alternative views, I hope everyone continues to post, it makes for a variety of readings, and I don't mind a zinger or two, certainly Jack and his undying devotion to all things NHRA rankle me at times, but geez, get a shot in and let it rest, and it ain't just 1320 and Dan, there's been others, and probably me too at times.....

oh well

KEN BUGAJ 06-11-2013 03:37 PM

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Lang & Campbell are both Good Guys, I'm sure the letter was a reminder to Jack,,,
Good thing Greg's not still around,,,,You would have gone down the road early,,,lol
So Jack will fix it and He saved the entry fee and got to race...
I see that as NHRA working with the Racer !!!

Toby Lang 06-11-2013 03:46 PM

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Maybe Jack's just trying to gain some street cred with the NHRA bashers. :D

Bob Bender 06-11-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ken bugaj (Post 385828)
lang & campbell are both good guys, i'm sure the letter was a reminder to jack,,,
good thing greg's not still around,,,,you would have gone down the road early,,,lol
so jack will fix it and he saved the entry fee and got to race...
I see that as nhra working with the racer !!!

x2

keith ohanesian 06-11-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ (Post 385828)
Lang & Campbell are both Good Guys, I'm sure the letter was a reminder to Jack,,,
Good thing Greg's not still around,,,,You would have gone down the road early,,,lol
So Jack will fix it and He saved the entry fee and got to race...
I see that as NHRA working with the Racer !!!

Ken there has been a lot of BS that has gone on the last few years. I don't recall you being here enough to really know what they have been up too.

Jack Matyas 06-11-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 385785)
don't you just hate it when the truth and the facts get in the way of a good story or in this case complaint.;)

You're such a shmuck .....maybe you should get your facts straight as you have no idea what repairs were made and when .And I certainly don't owe you ( or anyone for that matter ) an explaination .

And by the way - I'll call Director Lang my friend till way after both of us are gone .And I firmly believe rules are meant for everyone .

Like I've said before - you're not one of us and will never 'get it' .

Kenny Wigington 06-11-2013 05:27 PM

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"And...... Boom ! A bull's eye for Mr. Matyas in his lane !"

jim powers 06-11-2013 05:51 PM

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Not that Ryck Campbell needs anyone to stand up for him but i have found him to be one of the fairest , most straight forward tech men in the sport PERIOD

art leong 06-11-2013 05:53 PM

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Going back to Jack's original post about the letter, and not telling him.
At The Englishtown National event 3 years ago. They didn't like my front fenders The fenders had louvers in them. They were the only fiberglass fenders made for a Neon, and actually 3 pounds each heavier than steel replacement fender. I showed them I was running a complete inner fenderwell, so there was no aerodynamic advantage (just dead air space). They told me I could run that race but had to change them before I raced again.
They sent me a letter stating that and cc'd it to every DD and every division tech director.
I was a little upset because I though minor customizing not to gain an advantage was allowed. I just bought the fenders and painted them with a rattle can total expense less than $100.

SStockDart 06-11-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Lang (Post 385829)
Maybe Jack's just trying to gain some street cred with the NHRA bashers. :D

What the heck does that mean????????????????? LOL

Steve Calabro 06-11-2013 08:23 PM

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We all need to write letters or e-mail the NHRA to get this rule amended!

Ed Wright 06-11-2013 09:06 PM

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That rule makes no sense. So, torn up bumpers are better?
Doesn't bother my car, but does plenty of others.

CFM 06-11-2013 09:21 PM

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Personally I think someone left the door open at the Nut House Racing Asso.


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