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frank m 06-17-2013 09:34 PM

Dirt bag in ohio
 
I usually don't post on here but I have to warn everyone about a dirt bag low life
RAY VIERHELLER he uses the tag name muscleman and claims to be selling a used race pack, let's just say he is a low life who needs money and will TRY to screw people.
Home address 893 Mesa verde drive Barberton Ohio 44203
HOW YOU DOING RAY !!!!
FRANK MAIOLO

Chad Rhodes 06-17-2013 09:47 PM

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Post it over at yellowbullet.com, but hit the newbie thread first if you're not already a member.

Darrin Christen 06-17-2013 10:00 PM

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I here he is also trying to sell a Protrans really cheap also!

keith ohanesian 06-17-2013 11:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frank m (Post 386798)
I usually don't post on here but I have to warn everyone about a dirt bag low life
RAY VIERHELLER he uses the tag name muscleman and claims to be selling a used race pack, let's just say he is a low life who needs money and will TRY to screw people.
Home address 893 Mesa verde drive Barberton Ohio 44203
HOW YOU DOING RAY !!!!
FRANK MAIOLO

You just got called out NEW YORK style! lmao!

KRatcliff 06-17-2013 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrin Christen (Post 386807)
I here he is also trying to sell a Protrans really cheap also!

Two, on a pallet.

Ed Carpenter 06-18-2013 12:07 AM

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Is this the same guy that screwed a bunch of people over on a tool deal? Wright tools or something like that.

killintime6968 06-18-2013 12:30 AM

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Yes it is. There is a long discussion on him and his exploits on the insidecomp website.

Ed Wright 06-18-2013 08:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 386838)
Two, on a pallet.

From Houston?

Chad Rhodes 06-18-2013 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 386838)
Two, on a pallet.

that sounds like it could be the Emmons transmissions

Pedigo Perf 06-18-2013 08:50 AM

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The reward on those pays better than winning a National including contingency.

Mike Pearson 06-18-2013 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 386844)
Is this the same guy that screwed a bunch of people over on a tool deal? Wright tools or something like that.

That's the guy Ed. I got screwed in that deal. He is a real slime ball. Steer clear of any dealings with this guy.

DIAPERMAN 06-18-2013 09:29 AM

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Sounds like someone needs to make a house call to him

Steve Williams 06-18-2013 10:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrin Christen (Post 386807)
I here he is also trying to sell a Protrans really cheap also!

Where did you see that?

frank m 06-18-2013 10:42 AM

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Nice Place

Darrin Christen 06-18-2013 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Williams (Post 386891)
Where did you see that?

I didn't see it anywhere. I spoke to two different friends who talked to Ray about buying a Protrans. Both own dragsters, so I would think the trans is a shorty, probably not one of the Emmons trans. But who knows. Both of the people I talked to did not feel comfortable sending this guy money for a trans base on his past.

Darrin Christen 06-18-2013 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frank m (Post 386798)
I usually don't post on here but I have to warn everyone about a dirt bag low life
RAY VIERHELLER he uses the tag name muscleman and claims to be selling a used race pack, let's just say he is a low life who needs money and will TRY to screw people.
Home address 893 Mesa verde drive Barberton Ohio 44203
HOW YOU DOING RAY !!!!
FRANK MAIOLO

Frank, was this a V-300 with sensors and gauges for $2,000?

frank m 06-18-2013 11:10 AM

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Yes

Darrin Christen 06-18-2013 11:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frank m (Post 386908)
Yes

I was texting a guy week before last about that same deal. He was going to let it go for $1,600 without the gauges. He told me I better hurry because it wouldn't last long. Next day he sends a text that it was sold. I was kinda bummed that I had missed a good deal! I didn't know who the guys was as we were only texting at that point. I seem to remember and email he sent with the name muscleman also. I deleted the email so I'm not sure. Thanks for the heads up.

Bob Pagano 06-18-2013 11:21 AM

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If your deal was done on the internet its internet fraud , call the police in Barberton , OH and speak with the person in charge of IF, if you sent $$ they should pay him a visit and resolve your problem. Dont bitch, talk calm and ask for help.

Myron Piatek 06-18-2013 11:51 AM

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He's been discussed here on classracer before. He owes me $400 from 2-3 years ago with the tool deal.
I still have the emails! ;)

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...ght=VIERHELLER

frank m 06-18-2013 12:22 PM

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Thanks Bob
Already on it

frank m 06-18-2013 01:05 PM

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It seems the dirt bag has screwd a couple of people in the past, and after contacting the local authories they are asking me to gather names and any information of those transactions. It seems internet fraud is a serious offense!!!
i can be reached at
fmaiolo@njbsecurity.com
fax #914-237-9444
cell 914-879-4083
UPDATE
RAY CONTACTED ME VIA TEXT AND TOLD ME REPEAT TOLD ME TO REMOVE THE POST AND HE WILL SEND OUT MY MONEY CLAIMS HE HAS IT ON HIS DESK
ALONG WITH THE PILE OF SHI%% HE HAS BEEN SERVING

Dave Ribeiro 06-18-2013 01:35 PM

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Frank, you have a PM..........

Bill Howell 06-18-2013 09:23 PM

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I have also had dealings? with Ray V. I would like to know how anyone can get him to answer the phone or emails. Frank, I wonder who's money he has on his desk?

Mike Taylor 3601 06-19-2013 06:43 AM

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Bill.
I'd say if he does'nt owe someone he will probaly answer,would be my guess.
Hope you guys get what you are owed.
Mike Taylor 3601

DIAPERMAN 06-19-2013 07:20 AM

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Maybe someone show up at his house .He might get the point

rognelson777 06-19-2013 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frank m (Post 386928)
It seems the dirt bag has screwd a couple of people in the past, and after contacting the local authories they are asking me to gather names and any information of those transactions. It seems internet fraud is a serious offense!!!
i can be reached at
fmaiolo@njbsecurity.com
fax #914-237-9444
cell 914-879-4083
UPDATE
RAY CONTACTED ME VIA TEXT AND TOLD ME REPEAT TOLD ME TO REMOVE THE POST AND HE WILL SEND OUT MY MONEY CLAIMS HE HAS IT ON HIS DESK
ALONG WITH THE PILE OF SHI%% HE HAS BEEN SERVING

tell him real simple, send me the money, when the check clears, you will remove post and repost you have your money back

FED 387 06-19-2013 02:47 PM

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also might try 330-808-2991

keith ohanesian 06-19-2013 04:49 PM

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This really is the best thread I have ever seen on here..

KEVIN T 06-19-2013 06:49 PM

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Hey Frank, don't forget the cannoli's. lol

If you need some advice on the New York side of the crime give me a call.

Kevin T

frank m 06-19-2013 07:44 PM

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Kevin send me a email at njbmaiolo@msn.com with your number

frank m 06-19-2013 10:18 PM

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Once again I am overwhelmed by the call s from good people all across the usa willing to help me in collecting my money from the dirt bag .thank you it's good to know but not a surprise about the integrity of our fellow racers
Now at this point it's not about the money ,some of you know what I mean ,for those who don't wait and see
I have purchased car,parts, trailers site on seen from fellow racers with no problem until this dirt bag and by the way I asked him tonight if there was a drug ,boose,***** problem clouding his reasoning but I forgot to ask him if he was a closet **** sucker ! And I think I hit the nail on the head !,,, whatever to each his own as Jerry steinfield said NOT THAT THERE IS ANYThiNG wrong with that
FYI
You think I can get Kenny to give me a free class racer t shirt with over 10000 hits

Bill Howell 06-19-2013 10:19 PM

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For information: We printed a catalog for a race trailer awning company for Ray V. According to Ray, he was contracted by them to design it and have it printed. We printed it and had them sent next day air to the PRI Show in Orlando because Ray told us cost was no object in getting them there. We were to be paid by Ray as soon as the customer paid him.
If anyone can get Ray to answer the phone, I would like to know how it is done.

frank m 06-19-2013 10:22 PM

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Billy text him at 330-414-5514 or meet me at the airport Saturday morning !,,,

Bridgewater7185 06-19-2013 11:20 PM

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Dirt bag Ray got me in Phoenix 2012 for the Wright tool deal...signed up as a team for 500.00 and could never order the tools online as he said...The money for wins and runner-up never came either. Wright tool would not do anything as he was on the outs in Feb. 2012 so he was lying then when I paid him...Carma can have him! Dave Bridgewater 951-317-1240...Give me a call Ray we can go have lunch somewhere.

killintime6968 06-19-2013 11:56 PM

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Looks like he also used the tag name [race parts] on insidecomp in may selling the v300



Bruce Cameron

Charlie Yannetti 06-20-2013 12:11 PM

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Ray and his supposed Wright Tool deal has affected many racers across the Country for 10's of thousands of dollars.. Wright Tools has been working pretty hard to get out from under that deal and claiming a severed relationship and no responsibilty for the debt, but many feel that they bear some debt and responsibility to the racers..

All of this has been discussed at the Divisional level and supposedly forwarded to NHRA Legal Dept, but I haven't heard anything on that since January 2013..

Anyone affected should be contacting their Division Directors to discuss what has happened to them and what they are owed.. hopefully NHRA attorneys will take some action..

The story is that Ray is now collecting money for parts, but the parts never show up.. BE VERY CAREFUL and ask him to ship parts COD.. I bet they never show up that way either..

rawhide 06-20-2013 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti (Post 387313)
Ray and his supposed Wright Tool deal has affected many racers across the Country for 10's of thousands of dollars.. Wright Tools has been working pretty hard to get out from under that deal and claiming a severed relationship and no responsibilty for the debt, but many feel that they bear some debt and responsibility to the racers..

All of this has been discussed at the Divisional level and supposedly forwarded to NHRA Legal Dept, but I haven't heard anything on that since January 2013..

Anyone affected should be contacting their Division Directors to discuss what has happened to them and what they are owed.. hopefully NHRA attorneys will take some action..

The story is that Ray is now collecting money for parts, but the parts never show up.. BE VERY CAREFUL and ask him to ship parts COD.. I bet they never show up that way either..

I would be afraid he would send me a box of rocks.
Roland

tpoh815 06-20-2013 05:01 PM

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So the question is, being from Ohio will he show up at the Norwalk race ???

Jack Matyas 06-20-2013 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frank m (Post 387231)

You think I can get Kenny to give me a free class racer t shirt with over 10000 hits

Frank - There are many four letter words in Kennys' vocabulary but free is not one of them ! ! ! ! However I hold the keys to the t-shirt closet ...........


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