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Robbie Welch 07-04-2013 07:13 AM

Header coating
 
We're finally building a new set of headers for the old Fairlane. I'm planning on having them Jet Hot coated and was going to have that done before using them. But when I took the old headers off found one of the tubes badly rusted out. My question is will using the new headers effect the quality of the coating? I'll call them tomorrow, just thought I'd ask. Thanks Robbie

Greg Hill 07-04-2013 08:44 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie Welch (Post 389288)
We're finally building a new set of headers for the old Fairlane. I'm planning on having them Jet Hot coated and was going to have that done before using them. But when I took the old headers off found one of the tubes badly rusted out. My question is will using the new headers effect the quality of the coating? I'll call them tomorrow, just thought I'd ask. Thanks Robbie

If I were you I would use Nitroplate. This is a company owned by racers who do outstanding work and the customer service is also outstanding.

Alan Roehrich 07-04-2013 09:09 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Yes, used headers can be coated, with no ill effects. At least by NitroPlate. The turn around time is around 2 weeks, or 10 working days. Again, at least it is at Nitroplate.

Keith 944 07-04-2013 09:11 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Rob, if you haven't started building them yet, seriously consider making them stainless. I was on my third set of coated headers. the first was new, hand built, then jet hot inside out. they rusted, sent back got warranty re-done, they rusted again! second set, new hand built, then nitroplated, inside and out. they rusted. I was spending around $900. to build and coat these. this time I had a guy build mine in stainless. he charged me $1,200. but I think it was well worth it and I should never need another set.

1320racer 07-04-2013 09:12 AM

Re: Header coating
 
wouldn't waste my time and $ with jet hot. Call Gene @ Central Connecticut Coatings 860-528-8281or call Nitroplate.

Dave Ribeiro 07-04-2013 04:12 PM

Re: Header coating
 
Robbie,


If you are getting them coated, There's no-body better than Nitroplate, both on service & price ... They do a great job & are easy to deal with.
They stand behind all of their work, not like the rest of the guys !!!!

Robbie Welch 07-05-2013 06:56 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Thanks to all for responding, Yea, I meant to say Nitroplate. My big concern in using the headers for the up coming PRO AM at MIR and then having them coated. My plan was to finished building them and have them coated before using them. But after taking the old headers off I found 1 tube badly rusted out and don't want to reuse or repair them (they've only be on the car about 20 years). Keith maybe the next set will be stainless (hopefully in 20 more years) See yaw at MIR

Greg Barsamian 07-05-2013 11:03 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 389304)
wouldn't waste my time and $ with jet hot. Call gene @ central connecticut coatings 860-528-8281or call nitroplate.

x2

Robbie Welch 07-10-2013 06:55 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Well we got the new headers built and on the car(uncoated). What adifferance they make in the sound of the car. I can't wait until Fridays T&T before the PRO AM to see how it runs. See you there.

69Cobra 07-10-2013 10:04 PM

Re: Header coating
 
Pics????

Robbie Welch 07-11-2013 07:23 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Kris, I'll take some photos when I take them off after the PRO AM for coating,and report on any performance changes.

Robbie Welch 07-17-2013 07:44 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Well I ran the car with the new headers on it this weekend. As you may know I'm a .90 guy and the results where inconclusive. I ran it off the off on the first run but it wasn't a good clean run and went 10.32 128mph. That seemed a little slow but the mph seemed pretty good for the weather. On the stop it seemed to take quit a bet more to slow the car to 10.90 and it still went 128. I felt like with the weather correction numbers for the weekend it would of run 126 or so in the past? We'll see. I know this isn't the .90 form but you guys seem to respond more . Thanks Robbie. Now to put the disc brakes on. Anyone want to guest what the car will go after that? I'm going from 4 wheel drum to 4 wheel disc.

jmcarter 07-17-2013 08:33 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie Welch (Post 391105)
Well I ran the car with the new headers on it this weekend. As you may know I'm a .90 guy and the results where inconclusive. I ran it off the off on the first run but it wasn't a good clean run and went 10.32 128mph. That seemed a little slow but the mph seemed pretty good for the weather. On the stop it seemed to take quit a bet more to slow the car to 10.90 and it still went 128. I felt like with the weather correction numbers for the weekend it would of run 126 or so in the past? We'll see. I know this isn't the .90 form but you guys seem to respond more . Thanks Robbie. Now to put the disc brakes on. Anyone want to guest what the car will go after that? I'm going from 4 wheel drum to 4 wheel disc.

How much weight will you lose in the brake change? If ~100 lbs and you then re-add the weight in ballast it becomes unspung mounted low and more to the rear which means the car will react quicker but probably not much quicker. If you lose that weight then I'd say .07-.08 quicker. Cars on a stop have more variables involved than a regular class car but I'd be interested in what you come up with.

jmcarter 07-17-2013 08:38 AM

Re: Header coating
 
BTW, if you didn't put on merge collectors contact Mark Lelchook for a set of his, you will not be disappointed.

Robbie Welch 07-18-2013 06:35 AM

Re: Header coating
 
I do'nt think it will be a100lbs but it could be 40 or 50 lbs with half of that being rotating weight (the rear brakes) I have weight at the rear bumper so thats where I'll add this (2800 min). We have a standard collector on it now, a merge collector is in the plans.I'm also going to raise the front of the car about 1 1/2 " this should make it almost level. I'm hoping the front brakes and raising the front of the car will help the car come out of the lights quicker. Now I have to get the header headers off and to the coater. Robbie

Michael Beard 07-22-2013 09:47 AM

Re: Header coating
 
My headers were several years old, and all rusted up. NitroPlate did an awesome job with them!

BEFORE:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...87846374_n.jpg

AFTER:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...62210432_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...41325075_n.jpg

ALMACK 07-23-2013 10:14 AM

Re: Header coating
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 391687)
My headers were several years old, and all rusted up. NitroPlate did an awesome job with them!

BEFORE:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...87846374_n.jpg

AFTER:
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...62210432_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...41325075_n.jpg


^^ Day-Yum !

Nice. I have my turbo header right under the inlet tube to the throttle body.
I wonder if that will reduce the heat coming from the header?


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