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Bench Racer 08-26-2013 08:32 AM

Ford 352?
 
I was looking at the entry list for SS @ Indy and saw Walter Sullivan's GT/FA entry with a 352, Nick Morris has ran this same combination there in GT/FA in (I think) 2011. I don't know a lot about the ford modular engines but I think they are 280ish and 330ish cubic inch. Could they be running the 5.8 (351?) engine that was in trucks in the 90's? If memory serves me well the engine in Nicks car was injected and not the 352 FE block and it was a very stout piece. Thanks in advance for any replies. Don Jackson

Dave Crysler 08-26-2013 08:49 AM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Didn't Ford offer a 352 in some of the mid 60's sedans,Galaxies maybe ?

SSDiv6 08-26-2013 09:00 AM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bench Racer (Post 396365)
I was looking at the entry list for SS @ Indy and saw Walter Sullivan's GT/FA entry with a 352, Nick Morris has ran this same combination there in GT/FA in (I think) 2011. I don't know a lot about the ford modular engines but I think they are 280ish and 330ish cubic inch. Could they be running the 5.8 (351?) engine that was in trucks in the 90's? If memory serves me well the engine in Nicks car was injected and not the 352 FE block and it was a very stout piece. Thanks in advance for any replies. Don Jackson

It is probably the 352 CID pushrod crate engine that is allowed in the Cobra Jet cars.
The engine is based on the Boss 302 engine block and the engine assembly has part number M-6007-CJ352.
Although the engine is not available complete as a crate engine anymore, Ford provides the parts list to build your own.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/downl...8_FR_parts.pdf

Ken Miele 08-26-2013 10:27 AM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bench Racer (Post 396365)
I was looking at the entry list for SS @ Indy and saw Walter Sullivan's GT/FA entry with a 352, Nick Morris has ran this same combination there in GT/FA in (I think) 2011. I don't know a lot about the ford modular engines but I think they are 280ish and 330ish cubic inch. Could they be running the 5.8 (351?) engine that was in trucks in the 90's? If memory serves me well the engine in Nicks car was injected and not the 352 FE block and it was a very stout piece. Thanks in advance for any replies. Don Jackson

Its a 302 push rod engine bored and stroked to a 352. It was offered in the 2010 Cobra Jet Mustangs. Nick's car is indeed a 352 injected CJ engine. I'm not sure about Sullivan's combo, it could be the CJ or the FE. I will be sure to stop buy and see what combo he is running.

Jason 08-26-2013 10:44 AM

Re: Ford 352?
 
The 352 small block made from a 302 is nothing new. Ford street racers have had a stroked 302 for years.........it was called the 347. Ford just bored the block a little more and sold it as the all new 352.

Amazing how you can take an old idea and market it as new.

mr305 08-26-2013 03:35 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
My guess is Craig Sullivan is cheating!!! lol hahaha hi Craig!! On a serious note he should run good!!!
Aaron Disinger
327y
Gt/ha

Bench Racer 08-26-2013 08:23 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Thanks Ken: I found the 352 in the NHRA spec's. (2010 Cobra Jet) Looks like they made a good choice too. 352c.i., EFI, 3.40 stroke, 11.25cr, 56cc chambers, flat pistons, .005AB deck, 2085/1605 valves, 285hp/NHRA factored 289 in an auto. The NHRA blueprint says throttle bore (4@ 1.75)?? I assume that must be an EFI that looks like a 4 bbl. carburetor?? If the 1.75 is inches of the bore, that is 44.45mm x 4=177.8mm?? Help me out here Ford guys lol, I'm familiar with the Chevy LT-1(48mm x 2 throttle body) If my logic is sound this Blue Oval should be a rocket! I saw online where Nick Morris ran .995 under at Bowling Green! It ain't no slouch. Nick loaded my brother at Indy in 2011 for class, I got to talk to them in the staging lanes, Nick,his family, and his car are a class act. Don Jackson

Comp 798 08-26-2013 09:07 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
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JHeath 08-26-2013 09:55 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Ok, Jason, I guess you told us...347..352...oh, OK, maybe check and then talk, not anywhere near the same!!

sq34 08-26-2013 09:59 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Mine is the 352 sbf 2010 CJ. I withdrew today as i was told to rev it up. I just revved it all the way up..@ BG

James Hill 08-26-2013 10:28 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHeath (Post 396470)
Ok, Jason, I guess you told us...347..352...oh, OK, maybe check and then talk, not anywhere near the same!!

This is not an fe motor, the both use an 8.2 deck.block with a 3.4 stroke just different bore size.....

Nice meeting you this weekend Craig, you have a nice piece.

Jason 08-26-2013 11:01 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Hill (Post 396481)
This is not an fe motor, the both use an 8.2 deck.block with a 3.4 stroke just different bore size.....

Thank you....the 347 that street racers have built for years is a .030 over 302 while the 352 is .060 over and both have the same stroke.

Maybe JHeath should read up on his Fords before he spouts his words of wisdom again.

SSDiv6 08-27-2013 12:40 PM

Re: Ford 352?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 396483)
Thank you....the 347 that street racers have built for years is a .030 over 302 while the 352 is .060 over and both have the same stroke.

Maybe JHeath should read up on his Fords before he spouts his words of wisdom again.

Yep, street racers can do a 347 with the stock block at 0.030, but going to 0.060 is a risk unless you do a sonic check.
So, the reason why Ford racing used the Boss 302 block to go 0.060 and why they call it a 352.
Heck, they could have used their racing blocks with thick walls and go 4.080 and call it a 355 or go 4.100 bore and call it a 359 or go 4.125 and call it a 363.

The real point here is that the 352 buildup is what it was accepted by NHRA.


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