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That is one fast Dodge! Congradulations Larry Stewart.

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There's nothing like a soft horsepower rating to make a fast car.

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No arguement on the rating. However, he is a good driver and those guys at Engines Inc can make fast cars and I don't beleve he deserves any less credit for the class win as any other Drag Pak, Cobra Jet or COPO. I beleve they are all underfactored to some extent. But it still is fast.

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Greg you have a PM. Thanks

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Congrats to Larry and crew!

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Congrats Larry and crew! Knowing this 360 combination, NHRA should rate the new chevy 350 at 250 hp!!!

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No, they should make the 360, 350hp.

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Why not rate all of them what they really can produce? Engine builders must submit the Dino results to NHRA for every motor. Then people couldn't whine that so and so has a soft combo.

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You can't rate motors on how much hp they make, because different engine builders can take the same motor and make more or less hp. You have to rate them based on their potential. There are any number of people who visit this site who are capable of this. All you have to do is look at the specs , including cam, compression, size, carb or throttle body, head flow, and any number of things.

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This isn't the same game it was 10 years ago. If you want to go fast, you need a newer car. There are plenty of them out there so your going to need to bust your butt to beat the other new super cars. Congrats on a fine, well-respected SS/IA Indy class win.

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It's not the same because Nhra refuses to fairly rate these new crate motors. It doesn't take a genius to rate these motors. When you intentionally rate these motors 50-75hp too low this is what happens.

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Agreed Greg! Lets get one thing straight here. It's not Lloyd or Larry's, or anybody else running this combo's fault that it's so bogus! It's NHRA's! So cudos to those who run it and, most of all, take care of the combo from getting horsepower!

Too bad some that run my combo, and the new one I am having built, can't do the same! I guess it's just too much fun going a second under on a bye run or red light!

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Way to go Larry Jr.. You still are and will always be my hero. Keep it up and win your second Indy. Big Daddy

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Way ta GEAUX Larry!!! Congrat`s From the Day Dreamer Racing,,,

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Oh Yeah , heard that someone name of Charlie Downing was to pay Ed Wright some money that a SS/IA Drag Pack would not win class, heard from indy that that happened,,,they won it.

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Too bad some that run my combo, and the new one I am having built, can't do the same! I guess it's just too much fun going a second under on a bye run or red light![/QUOTE]

Would your brother be included in that group....lol

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What is the horsepower rating on Mr. Worner's car? What combo is Mr. Silveus' car? His cars are always fast, just curious if his combo is considered "bogus" since he went -1.08 under.

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If you have seen and compared the engine specs with like factored older cars, and knew how fast many of these new cars have gone in private test sessions, you would understand people's problem with them. Can't blame the guys running them, but sure have to wonder about the NHRA people that accepted the supplied HP ratings. Do you realized you likely have not seen the better DPs run with all 4 barrels hooked up? They will run more than 1.08 under on 2 barrels.

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I guess the 2 barrels are sort of like a certain olds super stocker with the block of wood under the gas pedal.

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You simply don't know.

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Mr Wright, I don't know about the DP's running on only 2 barrel(If so that sucks for anybody having to run one heads-up) and yes, I think they certainly should have a much higher HP rating. Quite a few cars run fast at testing and other races where AHFS is not in play but that doesn't factor in. I also don't know the HP rating for Mr. Warner's combo or Mr. Silveus' combo but, I would like to if possible. I appreciate your knowledge and am always eager to learn more about the various types/combos in stock/superstock racing.

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A nice article with little bit of insight of the teardown barn at Indy on Competitionplus. http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...-teardown-barn-

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Bryan and Byron Worner both currently run the LT1, Bryan in GT (295HP) and Byron in SS/IA (279HP). When Bryan started running GT the HP was 279 but Mr. Silveus personally stacked 16HP on it before moving on to the L98, which Bryan is moving to, which he added atleast 8HP and is working on more.

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Would your brother be included in that group....lol[/QUOTE]

???

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A good one of those Chrysler 360's will make more than 100hp more than the best LT1. It's the heads and the size of the throttle body.

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Thank you for the info and good luck at the races.

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I know you say that you are new and just learning about superstock, but how did you know Worner was talking about Silveus when he didn't say his name at first. I think you are a little closer to us than you pretend, if I would guess Kevin Gaffney lol. Stop trying to cause a war between them just to get HP on my combo. Mr. Silveus could have hit it at Indy but he didn't, I know people want him to do it one more time but I personally don't think he will fall into this trap.

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Did not say I was new, I just don't know a lot about the various combos especially in SSGT. I inquired about mr Warner's combo because he runs ss/ia(the title of this thread) and mr. Silvers combo because he was near the top of the qualifying with a non factory type car. Don't know mr.gaffney personally but I do know he has fast nice cars. Yours is pretty fast too. What combo do you run and what year engine? BTW, I just started this thread by saying the winner of this class was really fast, that's all.

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LOL, I like how you spelled both of there names wrong this time, not trying to rub you the wrong way but most of us know each other by name or say who we are when posting. I would be more than happy to answer some questions you have about superstock. I reveiwed all of your post in the history data and it appears by the people you talk about that you live close to DIV1 or DIV3. I would like to invite you to come to the races and spend the day or weekend with us, my treat. You will have a great time and since I go to alot of races by myself maybe I can pick you up on the way. Looking forward to meeting you, Ill be in Bristol this weekend then Charoltte and Reading. Can make it to Columbus if thats closer for you. Hope to talk to you soon PM me and ill give you my phone number. P.S. all the Vagas Fuel you can drink lol, I just need you to sign in to classracer when I see you so I know that I am Not spending my time and money on someone that reads this just for a free ticket. Hope to see you at the track

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Herbie it was me under a different name....does that include car and driver entry for the next three races? Just kidding with you! See you this weekend :)

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LMAO, not car and driver but the weekend with me at the races still stands, only if Mike approves. I Knew Classracerfan was more than a fan, I really thought it was Kevin Gaffney fishing in the Worner pond. See you at Bristol and I will fill you in on the GT cars,lol or you will probally theach me a few things.

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Emily, your getting me in **** with tha boyz!!! But its ok, Herbie still has the '67 as his CR signature pic, so I cant be divorced yet, LOL!:)

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Kevin I knew it was not you I was giving Herbie a hard time. :)

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Herbie, you hit the nail on the head here! How does he know we (Byron and I) run the same combo, since one is in SS and the other GT, and how does he know what combo Silveus runs??? I did not mention either in the post, nor did I mention names!

I was really just congratulating Larry, Lloyd and crew on their class win, and the rest of the 360 racers on protecting that combo compared to my combo(s)! So classracefan has to stir the pot!!! Bring him to a race we will all be at together, like Columbus!!! That should be a real learning experience for him, if he's as much of a novice as he claims to this game!

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Ok guys you got me lol!! To be honest i have no clue as to who classracefan is but he sure does know alot about you guys, your respected competitiors and combos:confused: see ya'll in Columbus can't wait!!

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Is running 1.078 under for no reason protecting your combo? Am I missing something?

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This is a loosing argument, you really can't compare the two combos, they were created at different times and for different purposes. FYI, those 360's could run in the 8's if they wanted to in the right GT class. Can't say that I'm totally mad though, I'm totally biased towards Mopar combos. I apologize if that was offensive

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Is running 1.078 under for no reason protecting your combo? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]

I can see why you are "nolongerracing!" When did this happen? When he qualified #1 at Epping to get the bye run round one and a possible by in the semi's??? Yeah, he did it for no reason! He protects the combo more than anyone else! He knew his average was well below the trigger. So, try again nolongerracing!