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Ross Family Racing 09-24-2013 11:18 AM

AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Soooooooo! What does everyone think about the Cobra roadster Super Stocker that the Stock family ran at the Northern Sportsnationals this past weekend?
Beautiful PK Race Cars built car. I think it ran GT/CA. I was told it has a newer engine package from the Cobra Jet cars.
Car has no roof or convertible top. Quite innovative but does it belong in S/S???
Jeff Ross

Ross Family Racing 09-24-2013 11:24 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Just noticed that this topic has been discussed on Mike Beards thread of the Sportsnationals.
Still,what ya think???

herbjr 09-24-2013 11:34 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Link to a picture?

Mike Carr 09-24-2013 11:37 AM

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https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...93100942_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/...57155273_n.jpg

SSDA Hemi 09-24-2013 11:39 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...7&postcount=28

Dyno 09-24-2013 11:41 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I like it, a new old car in a very diverse class of cars. This is what brings fans to S/S racing. Dyno

Eric Merryfield 09-24-2013 11:42 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Family Racing (Post 401551)
Soooooooo! What does everyone think about the Cobra roadster Super Stocker that the Stock family ran at the Northern Sportsnationals this past weekend?
Beautiful PK Race Cars built car. I think it ran GT/CA. I was told it has a newer engine package from the Cobra Jet cars.
Car has no roof or convertible top. Quite innovative but does it belong in S/S???
Jeff Ross

I had the same idea a couple of years ago when Holbrook did his magic with the 352.....add that to a cobra kit car and go SS racing.......Of course it belongs in GT....likely more fun for the chasis builder too than the FWD conversion projects...I am sure the fans like the look more too...But for real style points, I'd do it with a stick....

Eric

Ken Miele 09-24-2013 11:48 AM

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Jeff,

Yes it does, the guide has it listed as a roadster. No where does it say you have to run a top. AC Cobra's came from the factory with no tops. There were options for tops, but most cam without.

Very cool to see the AC Cobra at the strip again.

XSTOCKER 09-24-2013 11:54 AM

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I thought convertibles had to run with the tops up. Watch for some Corvette "roadsters" to lose their tops.

kwm 09-24-2013 11:59 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Fun 90" wheelbase!

Ken Miele 09-24-2013 12:09 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XSTOCKER (Post 401565)
I thought convertibles had to run with the tops up. Watch for some Corvette "roadsters" to lose their tops.

The AC Cobra is not a convertible, it is a roadster and that's how it is listed in the guide. Just so you understand, a roadster is an open body automobile.

Jeff Lee 09-24-2013 12:19 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Awesome! Do they have the aluminum body? I know it's available.
How about a 289 with 4 webers in regular SS? Is that even possible?

Mike Fuller 09-24-2013 12:20 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I got to see this car at NTR. It is a piece of art work. They have been in the guide for a long time and unlike the new Cobra Jets they came with VIN's and you could put a license plate on them. I think it adds more diversity to SS.

Wade Mahaffey 09-24-2013 12:57 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I like it, and if it fits the rule book....then good for him. I would walk past 50 new mustangs to look at it! (the 67-69 Shelby Mustangs are my favorite Fords) The AC Cobra guys out there will now be looking at Super/Stock a little. You gotta give it to the designer, builder and owner because it is cool!

Wade Mahaffey

442OLDS 09-24-2013 01:12 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I would not want to get stuck in the staging lanes during a downpour with that car,but we all know that it never rains at a drag race,so its all good.

jmcarter 09-24-2013 01:39 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wade Mahaffey (Post 401582)
I like it, and if it fits the rule book....then good for him. I would walk past 50 new mustangs to look at it! (the 67-69 Shelby Mustangs are my favorite Fords) The AC Cobra guys out there will now be looking at Super/Stock a little. You gotta give it to the designer, builder and owner because it is cool!

Wade Mahaffey

X2, especially the Shelby part....Yo, Ken, are you reading this? I personally think Carey's S2000 and cars like the Cobra are good for class racing by adding diversity and drawing a fresh crowd.

Randall Klein 09-24-2013 02:22 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Discussing this at lunch and we thought about a Corvair in GT w/ a fuelie late model cab 265

That's what I'm talkin about!

Dick Butler 09-24-2013 02:29 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
And with the right motor it could be in SS/A or SS/AA. 90 inch wheelbase would be a test.

jmcarter 09-24-2013 02:30 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 401592)
Discussing this at lunch and we thought about a Corvair in GT w/ a fuelie late model cab 265

That's what I'm talkin about!

Didn't Ralph Nader have NHRA remove it from the guide? Pretty sure "unsafe at any speed" includes above 130.

SSDiv6 09-24-2013 02:51 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 401594)
didn't ralph nader have nhra remove it from the guide? Pretty sure "unsafe at any speed" includes above 130.

lol!!!

Geerhead55 09-24-2013 03:30 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Family Racing (Post 401551)
Soooooooo! What does everyone think about the Cobra roadster Super Stocker that the Stock family ran at the Northern Sportsnationals this past weekend?
Beautiful PK Race Cars built car. I think it ran GT/CA. I was told it has a newer engine package from the Cobra Jet cars.
Car has no roof or convertible top. Quite innovative but does it belong in S/S???
Jeff Ross

Sooooooo,, Jeff, what do YOU think about this car? You started this thread,so you must have a reason for doing it. Personally, I don't have a problem with it and I can see its a very nicely done piece. I'm hoping I get to see the car next year when I travel east..
Danny Durham

Randall Klein 09-24-2013 03:46 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
1960-'66 Corvairs still in the Guide.

Nader, a one-cause lib (like most) stretched his 15 minutes of fame to become the GodFather of all bunny huggin, tree chained, snail darter adoptin, coal hatin, pipeline delayin
windmill lovers everywhere. Luddites, crimpin 'mericas productivity and jobs.

herbjr 09-24-2013 04:46 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
So a 94-96 Viper Roadster was available does this mean we can buy a super gas roadster, change the body, and go race Super Stock with a 340 low compression motor?

Ross Family Racing 09-24-2013 04:48 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I'm fine with it in S/S because these cars were ran back in the day in the stock classes. Didn't Bruce Larson drive one of these before his Funny Car days?
Why I started the thread, I like threads that get a lot of conversation going. I figured this would create much conversation.
Jeff Ross

chrismo28 09-24-2013 04:51 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Here are a few shots I took of the AC Cobra Super Stocker from the Sports Nationals

http://mohringracing.smugmug.com/Oth...010308_4-M.jpg

http://mohringracing.smugmug.com/Oth...010313_4-M.jpg

http://mohringracing.smugmug.com/Oth...010309_3-M.jpg

Michael Beard 09-24-2013 05:21 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by herbjr (Post 401609)
So a 94-96 Viper Roadster was available does this mean we can buy a super gas roadster, change the body, and go race Super Stock with a 340 low compression motor?

No -- for two reasons. 1) The Viper is listed in the Guide as a convertible, not a roadster. 2) A S/G chassis would not be SS legal. You can buy a Viper convertible, backhalf it like every other Super Stocker, and run it with the top up as required.

Frito 09-24-2013 07:04 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 401569)
Awesome! Do they have the aluminum body? I know it's available.
How about a 289 with 4 webers in regular SS? Is that even possible?

Yes, it has an aluminum body.

Alan Roehrich 09-24-2013 07:13 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
A real AC Cobra complete with aluminum body and original frame is worth as much as or more than a real Super Stock Hemi car. I'm surprised someone was willing to cut one up like that. I've seen those things wrecked hard bring over $300K.

Randall Klein 09-24-2013 07:28 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I believe it is an approved repl body & chassis, factory duplicates.....not an original.....I think.....it is aluminum, not fg tho

Dave Turner 09-24-2013 08:43 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 401626)
A real AC Cobra complete with aluminum body and original frame is worth as much as or more than a real Super Stock Hemi car. I'm surprised someone was willing to cut one up like that. I've seen those things wrecked hard bring over $300K.

Alan, I don't think anyone out there would be wounded to that extent. However, if Billy stumbled upon a neglected Cobra in suburban Millmont......who knows??? :p

Lew Silverman 09-24-2013 09:45 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
I believe it's an aluminum replica body, but that doesn't mean it was inexpensive -

http://www.kirkhammotorsports.com/

Beautiful workmanship!

tommy d 09-24-2013 09:46 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
They never ran Super /Stock...right? Then they should be in Modified/Sports just like in the 60's. Just looks jacked up in Super/Stock. MHO

JHeath 09-24-2013 11:42 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Thanks, Tommy D. this car is a legal NHRA Super Stock car, John Stock found a car that he wanted to race in Super Stock, it is legal...what exactly do you race?

Jeff Lee 09-25-2013 12:53 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
The only controversy about this car is "why did it take so long for one to be built?" It's been in the guide forever and aluminum body replica's and frames have been available for several decades. As I recall they had an almost exact reproduction being built in Poland or some other eastern-bloc country for awhile and even here in the USA by some company named Shelby in Las Vegas, NV. Shelby will build it in fiberglass or aluminum as part of their "Continuation Series". In fact, now that I mention it, since Shelby does make a fiberglass version, that may allow NHRA to accept either material but I'm sure that aluminum is a lot lighter for a competitive class car build.
The 352 is a great engine to install in that car. But boy, I'd love to see a vintage 4 weber 289 or maybe even a SO 427!
After "seeing the light" I expect Mr. Stock won't have the only one. The roadster concept is a proven way to win rounds. I say way to go on diversity!

Michael Beard 09-25-2013 09:57 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 401636)
Alan, I don't think anyone out there would be wounded to that extent. However, if Billy stumbled upon a neglected Cobra in suburban Millmont......who knows??? :p

There is a Corvair graveyard around there...

Ed Wright 09-25-2013 10:50 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
It is a cool car.

Ian Hill 09-25-2013 11:20 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
its funny what a little afternoon reading will do for the ride home. I was following a Pontiac Solstice last night and was thinking of big tires, wheelie bars and one of the naturally aspirated copo engines.....and that got me thinking of putting the 396 in my super stocker....and then i passed the local pizza joint...got hungry and forgot all about what the hell i was thinking about! Good thing too, cause it was starting to sound expensive.

:-)

Ia

oh ya, i like the cobra!

Harry 6674 09-25-2013 11:49 AM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
The company in Poland that was stamping them also stamped the Mig fighter.

Carguy49 09-25-2013 12:45 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 401667)
The only controversy about this car is "why did it take so long for one to be built?" It's been in the guide forever and aluminum body replica's and frames have been available for several decades. As I recall they had an almost exact reproduction being built in Poland or some other eastern-bloc country for awhile and even here in the USA by some company named Shelby in Las Vegas, NV. Shelby will build it in fiberglass or aluminum as part of their "Continuation Series". In fact, now that I mention it, since Shelby does make a fiberglass version, that may allow NHRA to accept either material but I'm sure that aluminum is a lot lighter for a competitive class car build.
The 352 is a great engine to install in that car. But boy, I'd love to see a vintage 4 weber 289 or maybe even a SO 427!
After "seeing the light" I expect Mr. Stock won't have the only one. The roadster concept is a proven way to win rounds. I say way to go on diversity!


I think this is one of the coolest cars to be built in a long time. Obviously the time was spent to certify the legality of the car, so let's hope a few more are built. This was, without a doubt, a very expensive car to build. But what Super Stock car isn't these days. The cool factor of this car is way up there. I say great job Mr. Stock.

herbjr 09-25-2013 01:02 PM

Re: AC Cobra Super Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 401617)
No -- for two reasons. 1) The Viper is listed in the Guide as a convertible, not a roadster. 2) A S/G chassis would not be SS legal. You can buy a Viper convertible, backhalf it like every other Super Stocker, and run it with the top up as required.

The 2014 is also available as a roadster, I think I need to send an email. I like the car, I mean I love topless, if its a race car or females.


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