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west coast 09-30-2013 01:05 AM

Div 7 salt lake final what happened
 
I was there for first round but sucked at both ends of the track. Then headed out for the Long Drive home. When I look on Drc and read about the final was this a deal being cut? Have heard about this at big buck bracket races but at a divisional race. This reminds me of Team orders in the pros. What do people think about this. Toby sorry I didnt do a live from salt Lake. Looked like Some good heads up Racing after I left. Thats what it is all about.

Larry Hill 09-30-2013 09:37 AM

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Not being there and just looking at DRC, it begs the question..... What size DIVING trunks does Doug wear???

Gordie Kissner 09-30-2013 09:56 AM

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I wasn't able to make the race,but was wondering the same??

DRC's quote.."Well, that was very weird! Neither car made a burnout and just pulled directly up to the starting line and staged. As soon as they staged, Lambeck drove slowly away. Lamb took the green and drove down the track right behind Lambeck. You decide what this was all about!!"

BLAZER 09-30-2013 10:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 402216)
Not being there and just looking at DRC, it begs the question..... What size DIVING trunks does Doug wear???

Not sure on size--but ill bet he sold them :D

jmcarter 09-30-2013 11:14 AM

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If it was a dive then they sure as heck should have done it differently. Look at the National points standing and tell me how this would be any different than the NASCAR Richmond deal. NHRA needs to address the situation and if they investigate and say everything's ok I'd feel better about it, can't say how Stock Points contenders might feel though.

Jim Hawkins 10-01-2013 01:18 AM

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I was not there and have no dog in this fight. But if this wen't down as described I can not believe there is not more outrage over this. I would not dive for ANYONE and I sure as heck would not wan't anyone diving for me. What satisfaction do you get from winning when it was pre arranged for you? Maybe this goes on more than I know but if he goes on and wins the championship it will be tarnished. They could of at least been smarter about how they did it. Total BS.

buzzinhalfdozen 10-01-2013 09:26 AM

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This sort of thing happens all the time in weekly bracket racing. My son who was in the running for the track championship at our local track was approached at 8 cars about laying down for a fellow racer for a fee. His answer....NO, race me for it.Well he lost the round, but I've never been more proud of him. Good to know he's learned integrity is priceless. Without it what have you really accomplished?

Bobby Brannon 10-01-2013 09:54 AM

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Maybe Doug car had a broken trans or something and he had to stage to get runner up. Just saying. Only one's to answer this is Doug orJustin

Tony Janes 10-01-2013 12:01 PM

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Is this really important?

Larry Hill 10-01-2013 01:04 PM

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If you are one of the ones in contention for the National Championship, it is VERY important!!!

I bet nobody ever gave Helms, Fletcher, Bertozzi, Biondo, Santangelo or Taylor any free rounds!! If they did get a free round, it was much better orchestrated.

Carguy49 10-01-2013 02:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Brannon (Post 402394)
Maybe Doug car had a broken trans or something and he had to stage to get runner up. Just saying. Only one's to answer this is Doug orJustin

:confused: Seems odd that neither car did a burnout. If one car is broke, then shouldn't the other car do his/her regular routine to make it seem like a real race? Hopefully, Doug or Justin will let us know what really happened. I would think if this was a game, it would have been done less obvious. Late light, lift at 1,000 ft. or REDLIGHT. Just sayin'.

Whalen3186 10-01-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 402407)
Is this really important?

It's probably really important to somebody like Drew Skillman and Charley Downing!

What does 2nd or 3rd pay in the national points anyway?

rognelson777 10-01-2013 06:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 402417)
If you are one of the ones in contention for the National Championship, it is VERY important!!!

I bet nobody ever gave Helms, Fletcher, Bertozzi, Biondo, Santangelo or Taylor any free rounds!! If they did get a free round, it was much better orchestrated.

Unfortunately, Biondo did win a round at the englishtown nationals a couple of years ago driving for vinnie Barone. His team mate left before the tree was activated, I think it was Anthony Bertozzi he was racing, did Bertozzi forget how to drive?

I believe it goes on more than is noticed, Is sad if you are chasing Points


This is why motorsports is dying, think about team orders, is it a empty win? nobody seams to care as long as they get the wally

Mack Reeves 10-01-2013 06:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 402407)
Is this really important?


Tony, I don't have a dog in this fight but just would like to make a point.

Ask Michael Waltrip if actions detrimental to the integrity of the sport are important... Get my drift???

Jason 10-01-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Whalen3186 (Post 402451)
It's probably really important to somebody like Drew Skillman and Charley Downing!

What does 2nd or 3rd pay in the national points anyway?

There was a 21 point difference between Winner and R-up. 614 minus 21 equals 593...and that would have only been good enough for 5th place in the national point standing instead of 3rd.

Tony Janes 10-01-2013 06:52 PM

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There seems to be a lot of views without proof. Justin has to go to the semi final to pass Drew in Las Vegas or Georgia, 83 Points. I suppose he could also go to Noble. There are still other in the running.

RULER 10-01-2013 09:01 PM

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This happens almost every year at the end, check out the results from Vegas, Nat. & Div races and you will see a pattern. this stuff happens every year in one class or another, thats just the way it is....some people just don't know how to cover it up or don't care too.

Tony Janes 10-01-2013 09:24 PM

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3rd does not pay for national points

pauldilcher 10-02-2013 11:04 AM

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This is nothing new , It has been going on for decades . Get use to it .


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