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Dan Fahey 10-18-2013 05:00 PM

Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Need some DATA on Pure Stockers

Who has the Quickest Pure Stocker?
Who has the Fasted MPH?
Who Runs Deepest Under the INDEX?

(Thanks for the idea Tar Heal)

What ever you best legal weight ET and MPH is, please post it.
G/PS 1995 Impala SS 12.88/103.64

Dan

TGould 10-18-2013 07:53 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Truman Fields,68 Firebird, Rockingham,NC Oct 2005, #1 Qualifier B/PS 11,15/-1.496.

Tar Heel 10-18-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TGould (Post 405024)
Truman Fields,68 Firebird, Rockingham,NC Oct 2005, #1 Qualifier B/PS 11,15/-1.496.

Wow! That is fast! :eek: Hope that car isn't around anymore.

We just completed our car and haven't been to a class race yet but went 11.74 @ 113 at legal weight. I don't see 6 tenths left in it anywhere.

Scott

Dan Fahey 10-19-2013 12:39 AM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 405028)
Wow! That is fast! :eek: Hope that car isn't around anymore.

We just completed our car and haven't been to a class race yet but went 11.74 @ 113 at legal weight. I don't see 6 tenths left in it anywhere.

Scott

Ahh Scott.
You are just slacking :D
Your wife is your secret weapon.

Thank you Tom Gould.
Truman Fields Stocker is real close to a 10 second Pure Stocker.

Ohhh..Wonder what can A/PS car can do?

Btw Tom...what is the quickest your Corvair has gone.
Think you have the Quickest in the Country.

D

Mike Taylor 3601 10-19-2013 07:16 AM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
I have F/PS record set @7.877 is 1.023 under index.

Been working my brain overtime,which is tough on small brain,to find more for Northern Class Natl's, was hoping to get in Quick 32,but don't think that I can come up w/enough to even make the field, w/ NHRA combos indexes being slowed .30, I say it will take close to 2.00 under for #1 and I'm guessing maybe 1.750-1.500 to get in @# 32 ,I'm talking about the Quick 32 cic race.
Think I may have a shot @ quickest pure stocker,and car is proven legal 6X
I don't know if Don Hayward still has his F/PS mustang but it's fast and has been through tear down many times also.
Mike Taylor 3601

Tar Heel 10-19-2013 11:42 AM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 405065)
I have F/PS record set @7.877 is 1.023 under index.

Been working my brain overtime,which is tough on small brain,to find more for Northern Class Natl's, was hoping to get in Quick 32,but don't think that I can come up w/enough to even make the field, w/ NHRA combos indexes being slowed .30, I say it will take close to 2.00 under for #1 and I'm guessing maybe 1.750-1.500 to get in @# 32 ,I'm talking about the Quick 32 cic race.
Think I may have a shot @ quickest pure stocker,and car is proven legal 6X
I don't know if Don Hayward still has his F/PS mustang but it's fast and has been through tear down many times also.
Mike Taylor 3601

2 under? I'm not familiar with the race that you're speaking of but I'm assuming no HP on Monday? I'm impressed with guys that work hard to get their cars to run that far under but the idea of them lifting or sandbagging to not run that far under all the time??? I don't care for that part of the sport. Run what it will run.

Dan Fahey 10-19-2013 05:17 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Hmmm..Mike Taylor..

My company is sponsoring the Pure Stock National and planning on $1000 to cover Winner/Finalist for all the classes. At $75 win, $25 Finalist. That is only total of $900 to cover all the pure Stock Classes.


I will use the remaining $100 to the Pure Stocker that runs lowest under their index.

Dan

brent flynn 10-19-2013 08:22 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 405028)
Wow! That is fast! :eek: Hope that car isn't around anymore.

We just completed our car and haven't been to a class race yet but went 11.74 @ 113 at legal weight. I don't see 6 tenths left in it anywhere.

Scott

That car is owned by Todd Hoven, now... its set up as D/SA, now... Its one nice , and fast car!

Mark Yacavone 10-19-2013 09:15 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 405123)
That car is owned by Todd Hoven, now... its set up as D/SA, now... Its one nice , and fast car!

D /Stock (stick)

Dan Fahey 10-19-2013 09:53 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 405123)
That car is owned by Todd Hoven, now... its set up as D/SA, now... Its one nice , and fast car!

Would love him to prep it for Pure Stock Northern Class Nationals.

Getting some emails that a few racers are considering going back to Pure Stock. Wanting advice how to convert back.

Most cars it would be back to virgin heads with approved Stock Spring and old style Blueprinted Cam.

There is a lot more interest lately.

Dan

Mike Taylor 3601 10-21-2013 08:16 AM

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I'm saying it will be close to 2.00 for quick 32 @ Michael Beard's Northern Class natl's based on the following,the NHRA indexs will be raised to .30 to match IHRA so as example Gary Summers can run 1.60? under with .30 change to index he will be 1.900 under,the cic will trigger @ 1.25 under,there are other cars out there that will be way under also.
This is independent race no AHFS in effect.
When you can run more than 1.00 under why would you want to turn loose and give away what you have in reserve? If you have a 1.300 under car you just turned it into probaly a .75-.80 under car. I have friend that was .990 under when #1 w/same combo was 1.628 under made his car into .250-.350 combo and @ Bristol maybe not even make index.
Sure I would like to see everyone run all out all the time,but I don't see any reason for them to shoot their self in the foot.
Mike Taylor 3601

ALMACK 10-21-2013 08:57 AM

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I agree with Mike on the Class nationals next year.

Will be interesting to see how far under some cars will run.

Dan Fahey 10-21-2013 10:56 AM

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Hmmm...April 2014 should be cool weather.

Wonder how may Pure Stockers will run a Second Under?

Dan

Tar Heel 10-21-2013 11:51 AM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 405251)
I'm saying it will be close to 2.00 for quick 32 @ Michael Beard's Northern Class natl's based on the following,the NHRA indexs will be raised to .30 to match IHRA so as example Gary Summers can run 1.60? under with .30 change to index he will be 1.900 under,the cic will trigger @ 1.25 under,there are other cars out there that will be way under also.
This is independent race no AHFS in effect.
When you can run more than 1.00 under why would you want to turn loose and give away what you have in reserve? If you have a 1.300 under car you just turned it into probaly a .75-.80 under car. I have friend that was .990 under when #1 w/same combo was 1.628 under made his car into .250-.350 combo and @ Bristol maybe not even make index.
Sure I would like to see everyone run all out all the time,but I don't see any reason for them to shoot their self in the foot.
Mike Taylor 3601

I know why folks lift and protect their indexes and HP. I've seen it for 30 years. I just personally don't agree with it and think it should always be run all the way out. This is just my own opinion. If I wanted to see a car run slower than it actually could I'd be a fan of Super Comp, Super Gas or Super Street. If I was a zillionare I'd buy a new COPO, Cobra Jet, and Drag Pak car, bury the indexes, and then give them away to charity. Work on your stuff, make it fast ... if they add HP work harder to get it back or change classes. I don't think lifting should be part of racing unless it's at the stripe to not break out.

Mike Taylor 3601 10-22-2013 08:30 AM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Tar Heel,
I don't think you are taking my comments the wrong way,I'm in friendly discussion tone,just want to be sure though.
Most combo's are too hard of work and too much money to get to the point where they run fast enough to get w/HP to just turn around and give it right back just because you can run that fast,but that's my opinion,and I see your view,if you got it use it,but you have to be careful about giving up what you can't replace.
Then on the other hand you have combo's that can be hit several times and still have extra left.
Like the Vette BTW Mike Taylor 3601

Tar Heel 10-22-2013 02:31 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 405404)
Tar Heel,
I don't think you are taking my comments the wrong way,I'm in friendly discussion tone,just want to be sure though.
Most combo's are too hard of work and too much money to get to the point where they run fast enough to get w/HP to just turn around and give it right back just because you can run that fast,but that's my opinion,and I see your view,if you got it use it,but you have to be careful about giving up what you can't replace.
Then on the other hand you have combo's that can be hit several times and still have extra left.
Like the Vette BTW Mike Taylor 3601

Thanks for the post Mike; I didn't take your comments the wrong way. You're exactly correct in what you say and understand how the Stock "game" works. I agree with all you said about how racers work hard and don't want to give it back ... I just don't think it's right that some combos, especially these new factory race cars, are lifting at the 1000' mark and still going way under.

Scott

Rat Raceway 10-22-2013 05:55 PM

Re: Best Pure Stock ET and MPH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 405442)
Thanks for the post Mike; I didn't take your comments the wrong way. You're exactly correct in what you say and understand how the Stock "game" works. I agree with all you said about how racers work hard and don't want to give it back ... I just don't think it's right that some combos, especially these new factory race cars, are lifting at the 1000' mark and still going way under.

Scott

Not all the Factory car's have that kind power to spare!!! There are more Factory cars that go all out and cant go -1.00 then you think...

I personalty know of four+ factory cars in Division 5 that run all out and are .30 to .70 under there index . NO BS!

There are for sure factory cars that have a unreal amount left in them, but they didn't come from the factory that way. Barton, Patterson, Cagnazz,Taska, Ect. are a totally different monsters compared to the way they were delivered. IMO... I have found if you want to play with the big boys new or old combo, its all about money (On top of a good driver.)!:)

.

chris ok 10-22-2013 08:53 PM

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Not the fastest but I just got Bud Lefevres Malibu show up in the pictures on top. The Malibu, looks like a 78 or 79 ran G/PS. He was a member here who posted regularly till he had gotten sick and passed away some years ago. Just thought i'd mention him in memory. I think he built models too. Nice guy on classracer he was.

Chris

Dan Fahey 10-23-2013 12:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris ok (Post 405493)
Not the fastest but I just got Bud Lefevres Malibu show up in the pictures on top. The Malibu, looks like a 78 or 79 ran G/PS. He was a member here who posted regularly till he had gotten sick and passed away some years ago. Just thought i'd mention him in memory. I think he built models too. Nice guy on classracer he was.

Chris

Yes briefly communicated with him.
Bob held the G/PS record for good long time.
Yes a very accomplished Model Car maker.

Guys like this need to be written about.
They are part of the unsung racers that need to be mentioned.

Not to mention many retired that are still contributing to our passion.

D

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