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ALMACK 10-22-2013 02:12 PM

Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-Bird
 
I am looking to find out if (since 1983) if there has ever been a 1983-1988 Turbo 2.3 Thunderbird entered in Super Stock ? (IHRA or NHRA)

I'm not interested in the GT class entries with V-8's, but rather a 2.3 Turbo car.
I know there were 2.3T Mustangs, but curious if any member here remembers a Thunderbird with that engine ?

Thanks

Bob Bender 10-22-2013 03:40 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Ken Robinson has a 2.3 turbo t-bird for sale.

Dan Fahey 10-22-2013 04:46 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 405439)
I am looking to find out if (since 1983) if there has ever been a 1983-1988 Turbo 2.3 Thunderbird entered in Super Stock ? (IHRA or NHRA)

I'm not interested in the GT class entries with V-8's, but rather a 2.3 Turbo car.
I know there were 2.3T Mustangs, but curious if any member here remembers a Thunderbird with that engine ?

Thanks

AL ;

If you are in Q/SA..
Think you can run SS/PA?

D

Dennis P Chapman 10-22-2013 04:55 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Bender (Post 405451)
Ken Robinson has a 2.3 turbo t-bird for sale.

It's a stock eliminator car right now.

ALMACK 10-22-2013 04:56 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 405454)
AL ;

If you are in Q/SA..
Think you can run SS/PA?

D

Yes Dan. At least that is the plan.
SS/PA index is 12.65 and my car (at SS/PA weight) usually runs 12.40's. (in stocker trim)
I'm just a roll bar away from SS. :)

ALMACK 10-22-2013 04:58 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 405456)
It's a stock eliminator car right now.

True.
He has a '87 or '88.
And 87-88 Turbo Coupes are not currently allowed in SS.

Dennis P Chapman 10-22-2013 05:00 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 405458)
True.
He has a '87 or '88.
And 87-88 Turbo Coupes are not currently allowed in SS.

It's and 88 him and I built it.

Lew Silverman 10-22-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
The 1988 T-Bird Turbo Coupe is listed in the guide with a HP rating of 190, but with no notation that it is a Stock or Super Stock factor. Does that automatically make it a Stock Eliminator combination only? Interesting omission!

Johnny U 10-22-2013 08:37 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
I remember seeing a T-bird at the Ford Motorsport Nationals back in the early 90's at Maplegrove and it was match racing a new 351 crate motored car (Super Ford project car) and it had a ss class designation on it but I can't remember the class off hand. If I remember correctly the car was black in colour. I think the Bird won 2 out of 3 races and it was running in the 11.70 range!

Tom Meyer 10-22-2013 09:08 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
There was a guy out of kanas that ran a mustang turbo car back in the day in SS but don,t remember his name. Tom

Dave Turner 10-22-2013 09:11 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny U (Post 405490)
I remember seeing a T-bird at the Ford Motorsport Nationals back in the early 90's at Maplegrove and it was match racing a new 351 crate motored car (Super Ford project car) and it had a ss class designation on it but I can't remember the class off hand. If I remember correctly the car was black in colour. I think the Bird won 2 out of 3 races and it was running in the 11.70 range!

John, that was Tom Reider - don't think it was a Sportsman class car. :cool:

Sean Marconette 10-22-2013 11:04 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Mark Walton ran the SS Mustang

Sean

Crew Chief 10-23-2013 12:03 AM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew Silverman (Post 405489)
The 1988 T-Bird Turbo Coupe is listed in the guide with a HP rating of 190, but with no notation that it is a Stock or Super Stock factor. Does that automatically make it a Stock Eliminator combination only? Interesting omission!

Here's how it was explained to me several years ago by a techman. When there is no notation that it is either Stock or S/S, it means that the horsepower is the same for both.

art leong 10-23-2013 04:02 AM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 405458)
True.
He has a '87 or '88.
And 87-88 Turbo Coupes are not currently allowed in SS.

How can a car be allowed in stock but not superstock?
I talked with NHRA years ago about a FWD turbododge in superstock and they said it would run SS/PA

ALMACK 10-23-2013 07:34 AM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 405522)
How can a car be allowed in stock but not superstock?
I talked with NHRA years ago about a FWD turbododge in superstock and they said it would run SS/PA

I might have been in error.

This is what threw me off:
Most of the SS combos in the classification guide have 2 asterisks above the factory hp number.
As the screenshot posted here shows, there is not any.

The 302 for the T-Bird has the same hp for both the stock factor and the ss factor.
That's what made me think the 140 was stock only.


However, as Crew Chief posted above, maybe not designating one or 2 asterisks means it has the same h.p. for both stk. and SS ?

So...would that mean it is legal for SS ?

http://i44.tinypic.com/2py1ezp.jpg

Dennis P Chapman 10-23-2013 09:48 AM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 405526)
I might have been in error.

This is what threw me off:
Most of the SS combos in the classification guide have 2 asterisks above the factory hp number.
As the screenshot posted here shows, there is not any.

The 302 for the T-Bird has the same hp for both the stock factor and the ss factor.
That's what made me think the 140 was stock only.


However, as Crew Chief posted above, maybe not designating one or 2 asterisks means it has the same h.p. for both stk. and SS ?

So...would that mean it is legal for SS ?

http://i44.tinypic.com/2py1ezp.jpg

Years ago when I got ford to send the engine specs for the turbo motor for stock I never asks them about S/S.

Jim Caughlin 10-23-2013 11:40 AM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
Does anyone know what the intake and exhaust cc's for the various '84 - '88 heads? I know that people have run these combinations in SS over the years, I was wondering how they did this without the cc specs being documented. If anyone has the numbers, please contact me.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019
(503) 981-5363

DonatoEng 10-23-2013 12:39 PM

Re: Anyone know if there has ever been a 2.3T 83-88 S/S T-B
 
I remember seeing a 2.3T in a Fairmont Futura with a stick, neat car and light.


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