Selling cars on racing junk - scamming
 

I have placed my second car for sale on racing junk (2000 firebird stocker) and am up to 5 guys trying to pull scams through paypal. All callers are out of California, all want to pay through pay pal, that need a "verified"account, so this means an account tied to a credit card, so if you scam them they can lock up your account and credit card until they get their money back.

the last two guys wanted to send $1750 extra, over the price of the car i am selling to cover frieght. as soon as the money comes in they want you to forward the money to a frieght company of their choice. then i asume once the money is transfered theyd back out of the deal and go through some paypal deal where theyd get their money back. this third guy tried it today, i was just going to keep his $1750, i got three credit cards so F him! I cant beieve these jack asses. Pretty clear who they are, email only, or text only and have no clue about the class they are buying the car for. i have sold many cars and have yet bought or sold any car without calling and talking to the owner.

the last two guys were named Dave, one had a 241 area code and todays was 801, but both came across my phone as from California. both textd me and niether would answer their phone when i called.

Sorry for the bs session, just frustrating. its hard enough dealing with all the guys that want to trade let alone thining you finaly have someone with cash only to find out is the same old $1750 transportation scam.

Be for warned.

Ian

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Nothing new. This has been going on for years.

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Yeah, same ol' story.
The way I understand how the scam works is like this:

They add a little extra for shipping, send a cashier's check and then when the shipping guy shows up ( within 48 hours), you give the shipper cash for shipping and load the car.

A few days later you learn the cashier's check was bogus.

The "shipper" was his scam buddy as well.

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I listed mine here in the cars for sale, racing junk was suggested to me yesterday. Guess I need to check it out. I would never sell through paypal. It has been hacked too many times. Somebody buys mine will show up with $100.00 bills, or the check will clear the bank before the car leaves. Lots of stories about Craig's list also.

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I sold my classic 1961 VW Beetle ragtop to a guy in the Virgin Islands on EBay.......I told him cash only.......by chance he had a family member who lives in Atlanta who delivered the cash and met them AT MY BANK where the money was confirmed and deposited on the spot.
This is the ONLY WAY I will sell anything of significant value.

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I have used RacingJunk for years to buy and sell and never had a single problem.

I have bought and sold race cars and parts and aside from dealing with a lot of tire kickers and lowball offer makers....it's a great place. I have never had any scammers contact me about anything I have advertised and all transactions went fine....

I have also used EBAY with good success.....but prefer RJ

Lots of exposure and not a big cost.

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Ed....I have used PayPal many times with zero problems......My only complaint is the cut they get for the sale and for the check they send you if you want to get paid that way.

I sold a Ron's fuel injection unit in Sept.
R-J ad.....took about 1-2 weeks to sell and to complete the deal and the buyer was fairly local.....he knew people I know so it made it a lot easier. He sent me a check in the mail......There are lots of honest people still out there and racers in general are very honorable people.....That has been my experience.....

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I have only had this problem when selling items on craigslist. Someone wants to give you a higher price than you are asking and pay by Paypal, or something other than cash, the buyers have not been local. If it sounds too good, it is not going to be a good deal for the seller. Always an email and no other means of correspondence. The bad part is it's not just one of these emails, it is several from multiple crooks playing this game.

If someone wants to buy your car bad enough they will drive to see it and buy it on the spot. A down payment to hold it before they can come pick it up is another option showing good faith they want it. Again a written contract with stipulations that if the item is not what they thought it was they get their money back, if they fail to pick up the item within xx days they forfeit their deposit. Our society is not the most honest, so protect yourself, and make sure you have a leg to stand on if you have to go to court. Judge Judy 101. Written documentation and signatures are important to have a case.

Good luck, one more reason I hate selling anything, all the BS that you have to deal with.

Sean

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i have bought and sold many engines and parts on racing junk, all with issues, but when i lested my 68 Camaro stocker, and now the firebird these guys show up!

I can handle low ballers or guys that want to trade cause in todays market, sometimes its the only way people can move up into something they've always wanted. But these guys paying "extra".....i am going to come up with a scam to scam the scammers, when i do i will post it here. if there's a way to make an easy $1750 in am in!

Ian

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"There are some people who will pat you on the back with one hand, and pick your pocket with the other! And it could happen to YOU!".....Captain John Braddock, Racket Squad.

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Dang! I just checked it out. All but a few are trying to give them away! Many from $25K to 32K! Crap! If I can't get 40K for mine, I'll just keep it. Big garage with plenty of room. Don't have to feed it.

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Do not take cashiers (bank) checks Unless YOU can verify that the money is in the bank.
A scam that's going around is people pay with a cashiers check, you wait a week. Your bank allows you to draw on the money (by law). Then in about 3 to 4 weeks they find out the check was fraudulent. And claw back the money from you.
Also the deals that expect you to meet with the shipper are outright scams. They send you a phony check you deposit it, wait a week, Then the "shipper contacts you and arranges shipping "cash only" . Then you never hear from them again. Your bank eventually contacts you and wants any money from the check you spent back.

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Makes cash sound much better. I didn't they could do that with checks.

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It usually happens with money transfers, but cashiers checks are just as dangerous, if you can't contact the bank yourself (local). Your bank has to let you access the money within a set number of days whether the money has cleared or not. One of those bank laws that was supposed to protect the public (not).
People see a bank check, then the money becomes accessable. You think all is right then wham.

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Good to know. Thanks!

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latest paypal scam, they ask you to email them pictures and they will purchase via paypal. They agree on price and tell you to invoice them. you get a email confirming your paypal account has recieved payment. DO NOT BELIEVE IT,
do not click the links in the email

YOU MUST LOG IN TO YOUR PAYPAL ACCOUNT TO CHECK THE BALANCE.

Also had a fake email that my Paypal account has been breached and to clicl the link attached, another Scam.

Never follow a link from a email about account problems, always go directly to the main website in question and log in.

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Paypal is the cat's *** if used correctly. You can request an account card (credit card sized) that has a digital display...you must press the button on the card to log-in or purchase anything thru Paypal. It has a display window that generates a random number sequence which you must enter to begin any transaction. I have mine tied to Ebay as well and have to enter the numbers to even access the site. Been using mine for about a year now...I would venture to say it is virtually impossible to hack. I'll post a pic of the card when I get home from work this evening.

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I've been a member of racingjunk.com for years. Never had an issue with
selling anything. I ONLY DEAL IN CASH. If they want to buy what your selling they will come to you.
Example: I sold a car & trailer package deal on racingjunk in September of this year. When these folks "pmed" me and said that they wanted to come and view it I told them to bring their tow vehicle and some cash if they were really interested in it. I said we might be able to make a deal but would not guarantee they would go home with it. They drove 730 miles to my place. They brought both (tow vehicle & cash). When they left it went with them.

All it takes is common sense.

It gets better. In October of this year I found a 34' enclosed trailer on racingjunk.com that I was interested in. I "pmed" the seller a few times to ask some more information about it. He always replied back. We kicked around some figures over a two week period and got close on the final price. I drove 370 miles to see this trailer and it was everything the seller said it was. I brought it home. Again, it was a cash deal. Removes all doubt for both parties involved. Cash is king....

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After spending probably close to $10,000 on ebay for parts, car parts, Chevelle stuff, engine parts, and hobby supplies,Pay Pal wanted me to send them my savings account number so they could 'make two small deposits", and for me to monitor my balances then notify them that they occured, so that I could become 'verified'.I didn't believe it, since pay pal is full of hackers anyway.When they attempted to decline a purchase attempt, I go cash only. If a seller won't go with a money order or a bank check,then I don't buy.Ebay owns pay pal anyway, so they have a real cozy arrangement.Some sellers now won't use Pay pal, and one seller refuses to sell in california since he refuses to collect sales tax due to the paperwork and time wasted doing so. It's not all easy out there, but one red flag five alarm no- no is buying from foriegn countries. Once they get into your financial world through your accounts, you can't believe the problems you will have. Cash is always king in most deals.

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Had a guy wanting my tubular control arms from racing junk. insisted on a price cause they are used. Said he had to see them in person. From Loiusiana? I'm on LI. Held onto them and sold cash locally. For more money. Did not bother calling him. I did not trust him. Did not want to talk. Only text. Spoke to him one time but he had to go in like 20 seconds, must've picked up by accident.
Other sites I've used paypal because I recognized the purchaser as a regular contributor w a good rating in its ratings section.

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I still have a check from years ago from a scam ,Drawn on a Wells Fargo account ,,Did,nt feel right about the way things were going , called the bank and all they would tell me is I should not try to cash it ,, according to the info I had provided them ,, Cash is King on those deals !!!!!

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There ya go!

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I certainly hope that folks reading this thread are smart enough to know that this is not a Racingjunk problem, but rather a problem of how some people treat each other. There are bad apples across the board in our country, and we the voters place law makers in a position to combat these issues. If they're not doing the job to your liking....replace them. If we don't get tough in this country, it's gonna get worse, and it's all up to each one of us. I don't know how Racingjunk is involved it a business deal between two people, they simply post your deal for others to see. Having been a dealer with them for several years, I have seen many e-mailed warnings from RJ, of a problem person wanting to buy something. I think these warnings are flagged when the person sends an e-mail to the seller. I feel sorry for anyone that has been scammed. Anything small ticket can be done by US Postal Money Order up to $700 per M/O...(I believe that is the max)...and...(you don't mess with the Postal Service). My package does'nt ship until I get the money from the Post office on my end. Large ticket gets done at the bank only, with Notary. (problem is, have'nt sold a big ticket item in many years) LOL

Never want to sell it so bad, that you will take chances on a scam deal!

Wade Mahaffey

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If you are dealing with a stranger - get his name and google it - if he is a scammer there will be evidence of it somewhere, if you look hard enough....... if you feel the person is not being truthful (fake name... etc.) move on.
Be wary of any deal that appears too good to be true - thats a red flag for a scammer..... Con men play on the human weakness of one's propensity to "suspend/ignore their common sense" for the benefit of a "great deal". Its actually based on victim greed.

I would be very careful with Racing Junk - its the type of internet site that lacks administrative supervision and provides the kind of annonominity that lends itself to con artists' exploitation - that's not to say that everyone on there is a scammer....

The racing community is big enough.... that if someone is legit... you would have to at least know someone, who knows someone, who knows the person you are considering doing business with and can verify their legitimacy...... For example,
I recently made a deal selling my truck & camper to a racer in canada (through Classracer)..... neither of us knew eachother personally, but with a few phone calls we were both able to confirm that we were each dealing with straight shooters..... which led to a deal that was comfortable, stress free, and mutually beneficial to both of us.

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^^This. Agreed, proper ongoing communication should be established in investigating a potential transaction. I have purchased three vehicles through Racing Junk and will not contact a seller unless I am somewhat serious on purchasing. Living in Canada with a different banking system than the US, I usually send a small deposit to the seller before arranging to see the car. I will pay by bank draft drawn on the Canadian bank in US denomination and priority courier said funds by next day. By the time I come to see the car the draft has usually cleared both banking systems, thus establishing a certain element of trust between me and the seller. Once I see the car, if I like what I see I complete the deal with purchaser for the balance of payment. I will have the balance in hand with a bank draft drawn from the same bank. If something doesn't appear right, I am ready to abandon the deal, ready to forfeit my deposit. It has worked out good so far because I've done a lot of homework prior to committing the downstroke and provided a degree of certainty to the seller. A car I recently purchased had lots of pictures of the car on the internet, had some youtube stuff on it (thanks to Mr. Lang...you provide a great service) and had lots of references to the car from the prior owner on this site. This research provided a lot of comfort as a purchaser enabling me to proceed. Solid transactions can be made on racingjunk with the proper diligence from both buyer and seller.

Al Bedard

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Its good, and at the same disturbing, to hear so many others stories of scammers. i in no way was trying to down play racing junk, as i have had similar contact from these low lifes from advertising on the local "kijiji" web site which is popular in my area for selling cars and parts on a local level.

I have purchased engines and cars off racing junk and the guys were absolute gentlemen to deal with. i am sure as it has been said already, coming from Canada has its difficulties when it comes to boarder crossing and dollar conversion etc, but i am glad to say my recent purchases all went without a hitch....my selling however, not so much!

Ian

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Just ran thru RJ problems guy lowballed a offer which we negociated on, he wanted my funny car went thru a number of setbacks for 5 months finally did some research kid might have been 18.

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Shannon Mingee got ripped off this way on Racing junk It is not the sites fault just crooks

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I have also sold a lot of things on E-Bay , craigslist, from automobiles, motorcycles ,racecars auto parts but nothing leaves without it being paid for whether its check, cashier check, it has to clear the bank before anything leaves. I haven't had anybody bulk at that. Unfortunately in todays world you cant just do business on a handshake.
Jerry