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CBS 12-05-2013 11:05 AM

Tether Update
 
from NHRA


Just a quick update to the collector tether rule….

• All racers will need to purchase an NHRA-accepted unit or weld the collector to suffice the rule.
• Only those mass producing tether units will be allowed to submit said unit for approval to get on the NHRA-accepted list.
• At least one, possible two companies will be posting contingency for their collector tether product.



Any questions, contact NHRA Tech.


Rock..

Rick Bailey 12-05-2013 06:24 PM

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CBS,

Just my opinion, and a quote from another post.

Damn Bob ! ........ easy there ! .........

Jok, its the principle ...... How do I get NHRA approval/acceptance on my vinyl lettering , so racers "Have to buy from me !!!!!


My son and I can build complete race cars ...... but we can't make a freeking teather !

Give me a break !


Happy Thanksgiving



Im not against some sort of teather/retainer devise as I've seen it happen and a friend got hurt pretty bad ....... I just don't like how NHRA is handling it .

They could set a guideline where a racer could make their own .... and then allow the techs be the judge.............

Thanks Rock !

Maverick 12-05-2013 08:43 PM

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Just wondering how many people are using helmet teathers, and which one do you think are the best and why?

DIAPERMAN 12-05-2013 09:54 PM

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Rock Lokar and Collector teather are posting Div contengancy

Bill Baer 12-05-2013 11:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Bailey (Post 411312)
CBS,

Just my opinion, and a quote from another post.

Damn Bob ! ........ easy there ! .........

Jok, its the principle ...... How do I get NHRA approval/acceptance on my vinyl lettering , so racers "Have to buy from me !!!!!


My son and I can build complete race cars ...... but we can't make a freeking teather !

Give me a break !


Happy Thanksgiving



Im not against some sort of teather/retainer devise as I've seen it happen and a friend got hurt pretty bad ....... I just don't like how NHRA is handling it .

They could set a guideline where a racer could make their own .... and then allow the techs be the judge.............

Thanks Rock !

Well you could contact them and inquire what I would cost to become a contingency sponsor! LOL

HolcombS/G155G 12-06-2013 09:37 AM

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I understand the rule but don't. Guys like myself who do regular maintenance and check things over between races have to take up for those who don't and buy the tethers. My dragster headers have mounting tabs on all for primaries where the collector bolts up w/ stainless hardware w/ nylon inserted lock nuts. The parts to make these kits are 10-20 bucks if that and the companies are making 1000% on the mark up.

jmcarter 12-06-2013 10:35 AM

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Mark Lelchook's new approved tethers are by far the simplest solution. No sense ranting any more...it's done.

sst7250 12-06-2013 12:05 PM

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I find it interesting that the Performance Welding ones are no more than what most of us already have. A wedled tab with a nut and bolt. Only difference being they use a wire rope between the mounting points. Dont understand how it is any better than what 99.9% of us already have....Just saying Mark is a good guy and makes great stuff for sure, just find this design a bit curious.

RacingRicki 12-06-2013 05:16 PM

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I thought the whole idea of the tether was to have a foolproof system that would not degrade over time like broken welds/bolts on the tabs that most of us already have on our collectors. Now they are approving welded tabs that any of us can weld on to our headers. I thought I understood the purpose of the rule but now I'm a little fuzzy.

Rick Bailey 12-07-2013 11:45 AM

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Ricki, I'm like you this makes no sense to me . To add more tabs ???


The BEST thing I have seen to date was a fellow racer posted on DDR was a picture of his headers on his dragster. What he had done was to install one button head bolt into each of the tubes with a nut on the inside ....... therefore the collector can be changed or what ever.... Just short of welding , I can't see any more of a positive way to secure...... If one loses a collector with this, he's got bigger problems

To add, this guy had the headers/collectors polished or chromed and the the buttons heads blend in and looked great

The most positive way ....... for less than 10 bucks .........


Give me a break !


Rick

442OLDS 12-07-2013 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by A56 (Post 411587)
The end requirement was that all companies had to have a cable, I know, I know , it just had to have a cable, period. This mechanically will help the longevity of the tabs or clamps, and as known this is only a final safety device. I in the end just wanted something to put on all my new headers and to take care of all my previous customers headers if they desire. Im not really interested in buying clamp on kits for $150.00, and im not satisfied with the quality of $50 clamp on kits.
To all that cant understand why NHRA wants us racers to buy certified kits, the simple factual reason is that NHRA wants to be sure that quality parts are being used. With the prices that certified Tether kits are at now, I dont see much reason to squabble that we as racers are being ripped off, we have choices from $60 to $150 with contingency being paid on the higher priced units. Its nice that we have so many choices now.

Mark Lelchook
D/ED F/SA

I already have your merged collectors and welded tabs with bolts that will keep the collectors from falling off.

That being said,do you sell just the approved "cable" or do you just sell the whole kit as one?

H.A.A.C. Racing 12-09-2013 03:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HolcombS/G155G (Post 411384)
I understand the rule but don't. Guys like myself who do regular maintenance and check things over between races have to take up for those who don't and buy the tethers. My dragster headers have mounting tabs on all for primaries where the collector bolts up w/ stainless hardware w/ nylon inserted lock nuts. The parts to make these kits are 10-20 bucks if that and the companies are making 1000% on the mark up.

If you're using "nylock" nuts on your exhaust, you should be first in line for the tether set up. I do agree however that you should be able to make your own under the guide lines NHRA provides.

Bob Verwold 12-20-2013 10:42 AM

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With my headers having a 3 bolt flange that's welded on and my extensions with a 3 bolt flange that's welded on and these are bolted together do I need the tether ?
I would think that 3 --3/8" bolts would be plenty strong enough to keep the extension on !!!

FED 387 12-20-2013 12:27 PM

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you most definately DO NOT want to use a Nylock nut in ANY high temperature application--- the nylon is going to melt!!!!!!! If you need to use a lock nut you can use what is known as an "all metal lock nut"--- these come in several different styles but they do the same thing---
You better check with NHRA on that bolt together collector extension set up get a final ruling just to be safe!!!

HandOverFist 12-20-2013 02:23 PM

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For $59 it's hard to complain too much. Btw, these use pinch nuts instead of a nylock. Contingency paid on these as well.

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psc0f00e4d.jpg

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psbf3e7547.jpg

Jeff Beckman 01-05-2014 04:39 PM

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Hand over fist, who's are these? Do you have contact info or where to buy? Thanks, jeff

HandOverFist 01-05-2014 04:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Beckman (Post 415297)
Hand over fist, who's are these? Do you have contact info or where to buy? Thanks, jeff

Jeff - http://www.collector-cable.com/

voltdr 01-05-2014 06:24 PM

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[QUOTE=HandOverFist;413294]For $59 it's hard to complain too much. Btw, these use pinch nuts instead of a nylock. Contingency paid on these as well.

I did not see anything on their website about contingency. I sent them a question about it.
Dan

voltdr 01-05-2014 07:03 PM

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Just got an email from Andy Nicholson at Collector-Cable.com. They do NOT pay contingency. They do have a great product.
Dan

HandOverFist 01-05-2014 07:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voltdr (Post 415327)
Just got an email from Andy at Collect Tethers. They do NOT pay contingency. They do have a great product.
Dan

Shoot one to Jok at collector-cable...I'm pretty certain he is paying.

voltdr 01-05-2014 07:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 415332)
Shoot one to Jok at collector-cable...I'm pretty certain he is paying.

That was Collector-Cables...................sorry
I corrected my earlier post

HandOverFist 01-05-2014 08:20 PM

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With all this tether talk even I am confused lol. Just a tidbit from the past...Jok @ collector-cable was against the idea initially. Only when it became clear that the tethers were going to be mandatory did he begin offering them to the racers at a much reduced price compared to others being marketed. http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...t=49067&page=9

Micha5tr 02-20-2014 03:22 AM

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so racers "Have to buy from me !!!!!http://www.bettecets.com/4.jpg


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