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Who in New England (Mass, CT or N.H.) is highly recommended or experienced with BBC Oval Port heads. Bracket Motor

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Not in the area you requested by arguably the best and many who port today worked for him back in the day....Larry Woodward aka Brandywine Cylinder Head Service in Westchester, PA.

That said, Rich Biebel who posts here worked his magic for years on the cast iron oval port heads that were on my 468 before Larry and Bruce McDowell tweaked them.

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Are L&L (Lebrun) still operating in Conn. ?

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Welcome back Ed......although that thought is probably not going to be real popular on here...LOL
And on those oval port heads I did not have any sophisticated equipment and no flow bench.....just old school experience. And my work was just as fast as extensive work done by Bruce after me....and that was surprising.....

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Thanks and Happy New Year.

For those interested, that is the truth. No knock on Bruce or Larry who still does porting for me but I did not run .01 quicker or .1 faster after their work which included further intake and exhaust port work, angle milling, valve job and swapping out the 1.88 exhaust valves for tulip valves, which everyone who saw the heads/work including Rich was sure I would.

Larry's reputation with cast iron heads and performance achievements are lengendary and his repair work to both cast iron and aluminum heads is second to none.

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Fastest SS big block guys are just across the bay in Nova Scotia John + Allyn Armstrong. ---Trevor

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You have a PM
I think what your looking for is in my shop.

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Tom Boucher
Boucher Machine !
Tom may even have a used set of SS heads that would work for a bracket motor.

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131 MPH @ 3800 pounds and thats a stretch = 655 HP in New Jersey conditions. Rich, the fuel system on that car was far from capable of supplying fuel in those wheelie conditions, A mallory 140 does not have enough line pressure to push the fuel forward under those conditions, and the 330 foots proved that in my eyes, so I think its hard to say the new head work couldn't have been better. The exhaust system was also a disaster, all it takes is one system to hold a car back. I feel the car was far from optimized. Something to consider. There is no way in this world your going to optimize a BBC oval port head without a flow bench. Ive seen guys do a nice port without the bench, but to take it too the max your gonna need some equipement. I always run tulliped exhaust valves. But I would say Rich you did put together a good running bracket program for Ed. Welcome back Ed.

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Some things never change!

1. Your reply to this thread in no way helps nor answer's the op's question.

2. this thread ain't about HP, fuel systems, exhaust systems nor my former car that I sold 5 years ago.

3. Rich has forgotten more about porting heads than you have yet learned!

4. My former car has not had a Mallory Comp 140 pump on it since 2006. Further after doubling pump output and increasing the main fuel line from 3/8" to -8, it was worth exactly NOTHING on the time slip.

5. The 3 1/2" exhaust system on my former ride that weighed over 50 lbs. was the 3rd system on this car in 8 years. It was also the least restrictive, killing only 7 hundreds in the 1/4.

6. My heads were flowed before Larry and Bruce touched them, during port development and upon completion.

7. Most important, your only knowledge of my former ride is what you have gleaned over the years reading everyone of my posts.

8. FYI, 3880 lbs. to be exact!

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1.The 3880 pounds is hard to believe, just because I own the same car.


"Rich has forgotten more about porting heads than you have yet learned!"

2. Im sure Rich is an excellent engine builder, but I find that extremely hard to believe based on my performance compared to yours.

3. As an engine builder, theres people that can utilize the work you can do for them and theres people who can't. Its possible Larry's work was not used to its potential.

4. I can tell you your exhaust system on the 522 inch 9.89 ET (in New Jersey conditions) aftermarket engine is far from optimum. Ed, its center in, center out.

5. As always Ed I enjoy our give and take, but lets keep it to the facts.

6. 4. My former car has not had a Mallory Comp 140 pump on it since 2006. Further after doubling pump output and increasing the main fuel line from 3/8" to -8, it was worth exactly NOTHING on the time slip.

How much line pressure were you running forward?

7.HMMMMMMMM
Been using Willy's adjustable restrictor plate for the past 6 seasons. That said, there is no simplier, easier or quicker way to adjust your ET up to 5+ tenths in less than 30 seconds.

LOOKS LIKE WE JUST PUT A NUMBER ON THAT 522. LOL

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Last reply to you and here's more facts...

1. Know one cares what you believe and for the record...

Here's the published GM/Chevrolet weights for 1968 Chevelle's as follows...

2 door sport coupe...3685 lbs.(curb weight)
strato buckets...........+21
floor console..............+16
front disc brakes.........+44
power brakes.............+11
396 cu.in. V-8............+11
3-spd automatic trans.+31
dual exhaust..............+40
power steering...........+29
heavy duty battery......+15
radio - AM/FM............+9
radio stereo equipment +12

Total vehicle weight....3,924 lbs.
driver.........................+185

Vehicle and driver....4109 lbs.


Now my former car

Less aluminum wheels, water pump, intake manifold, heads, radiator, driveshaft

ADD for 6 point rollbar, 5 point harness, water pump drive, MSD box, electric fuel pump/filter/regulator, plumbing/wiring, girdle rear cover, rear suspension, 11" rear drum brakes, trans cooler, CSR trans shield, driveshaft loop, gauges/tach, etc.

Oh and that doesn't include the tilt column, rear window defogger, factory floor mats and probably 30 lbs. of undercoating!

RACE READY WEIGHT....3870 lbs. with the 522 and no power brakes, 3880 lbs. with the cast iron headed 468 and power brakes weighed on numerous scales at tracks throughout the northeast, mid atlantic and southeast.


2. EVERYONE that has seen my former car in person was impressed with it's performance.

3. as to "New Jersey conditions"....

Posted Jul 29th, 07, 10:49 AM on Team Chevelle by Ken Jett

"My family and I are in Connectticut on vacation. Yesterday I drove over to Island dragway to meet the infamous 1320racer, a.k.a. Footbraker, a.k.a. Ed Bigley.

Now to the interesting stuff :) I hung out with the Bigleys, Ed, his wife, son and daughter all day. Ed's car is super clean. I think he said the restoration was done in '87, but it looked as nice or nicer than most other quality chevelles I've seen that have been restored more recently. Same for jr's dragster. Very nice piece! Ed's car ran well despite the terrible air and left on the back wheels every pass. The track temperature was over 140 degrees.

P.S. So much for mineshaft Jersey air. I picked up Ed's weather station (same one I use) on a couple of occassions and it was reading over 4,200'. Yesterday was as hot as most of the summer days we race in at Atlanta."

Nuff said!

4. 9.72 @ 138 IIRC spinning the tires after opening the restrictor plate a few turns on Sunday Morning at Cecil County, October of 2008, the last time I raced the car

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I would agree the weather gets far from the mine shaft Disneyland conditions you get there in the Spring and Fall, but after all one look at the NHRA records in Stock and S/S there sure are a lot of UNCORRECTED records from NJ. You have no idea what bad racing conditions are until you've raced in a 23.XX baro, infact my oval port Chevelle ran faster in a 23.xxx baro than you ever ran in a 30.3 baro. Just Fact. Im sure many people were impressed with your Chevelle, just theres far more faster examples now. Its going to be hard to impress a Stock S/S racer with that Chevelles performance. Are you sure this is your last reply?:p


"Oh and that doesn't include the tilt column, rear window defogger, factory floor mats and probably 30 lbs. of undercoating!"

Well you got me there, I have pictures of the underneath of that car, and there one hell of a lot undercoat on there, never seen a restored car with undercoating like that.......... AWWWW LOL

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Tom is a great guy and will treat you right. He's off I-95 in Rowley, MA. (978-948-7343)

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Thanks for the info everyone.

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You two ought to get together over a good steak and some drinks. I would gladly video the whole thing as the the conversation would be priceless. THINGS NEVER DO CHANGE ! LMAO

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Not interested, I've got no tolerance for snake oil salesmen.

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Snake oil.... Here's Ed's real problem, the shop built to beat Ed. It would be nice to film Ed's breakdown as he comes to terms with the reality his Chevelle just wasn't as fast as he thought. LOL

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Wasn't this thread started by someone with a specific question before it got hijacked by the self appointed all knowing one. And yet we still managed to give him the info he requested

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So let me get this straight, you built a shop "to beat Ed", more to the point, built a shop to "beat" a street/strip/bracket car that I sold over 5 years ago and a car that you say wasn't all that "fast". Too funny but too bad this shop and all of it's equipment is not yours!

Still fronting another shops photos and dyno room as your own.:rolleyes:

I'm honored nonetheless by the thought and focus as to me/my former car as the benchmark and target! :D

Meanwhile, my 16 year old son, has run quicker and faster than you and the rest of team clueless on his license passes and 2 weeks latter was running in the 8's in competition at over 150MPH with an equally impressive oval port headed BBC under the hood of this car!:p

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps2c9a664f.jpg

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Yes it was Doug but there is no fun reading about who can do a set of heads....

Ed was allowed back on here by Ken so I have to assume he does not mind when a war of words takes place over something like who had the quickest 3880lb Chevelle with no rim screws, no fire hose fuel system, no big tires and may or may not have had a 1.2xx 60 foot time.....LOL

I'm fighting off a cold so this is entertainment...

Carry on Ed and the other HP hunter dude....and the most important thing I forgot was how to even do cylinder heads, period.....Nobody in their right mind would want to......Port 40+ year old cast iron heads for chicken feed......and invest a fortune in machines and a shop that you will likely never make a decent living in....without making a superhuman effort....

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1.288 to be exact Rich and it was done at Piedmont Dragway the morning of 11/24/07 in the 2nd time shot at 11:48AM with Brett Schlichtig in the other lane

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after going 1.38 60 foot deep staged in the first time shot, I decided to go shallow to shut up the internet naysayers who for years refused to believe this ride that had regularly 60 footed 1.38-1.39 deep staged would 60 foot 1.29 shallow staged.

Anyway, that was a long time ago and pales in comparison to 1.17 60 foot my Firebird has run.;)

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Doug, I was the first to reply to mannymen's question. Further and FYI, he has PM me over the years for info and advice.

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It does take a lot of effort Rich, and you do make a good point!
I don't think theres anything wrong with putting in the effort to get the desired results, I wished the people I deal with would put the same effort in as I do.

"Still fronting another shops photos and dyno room as your own."
Who Ed owns my shop? Your not sticking to the facts.

"
Doug, I was the first to reply to mannymen's question. Further and FYI, he has PM me over the years for info and advice."

Just so you know Ed, Manny knew exactly where to call to get oval port heads done, ME, I then explained he should start a thread on classracer to find someone in his area that would do the job, Right Manny........

Heres some more pictures of my machine shop Ed.

Ed can you post the 1.28 time slip so we can put this to bed???

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walk into YOUR shop right now and take a "selfie", sitting at the dyno controls while holding today's newspaper with the date on the paper as clear as the nose on your face!

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Im not going to drive back to my shop tonight. How about Sunday? I will go back down there tonight if you'll post that 1.28 60

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start driving!!!:p

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I will go back down there tonight if you'll post that 1.28 60
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Lets see the rest of it.

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I posted the 1.28, now Start driving and I want to see undisputable PROOF that this is YOUR shop!

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I want to see undisputed proof the the rest of those numbers match your car, easy enuff to do, lets put this to bed. Then I will start driving.

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that reply is no shock to those of us that know you're a fraud!

Thanks for helping me prove my point again!

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Is there a reason you can't post the rest off the timeslip?

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We get it, the owner of the shop your photos were taken has locked up for the day/weekend and won't open again until Monday. ;) :p

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QUOTES BY ED BIGLEY


1.Too funny but too bad this shop and all of it's equipment is not yours!
2.Still fronting another shops photos and dyno room as your own.
3. walk into YOUR shop right now and take a "selfie", sitting at the dyno controls while holding today's newspaper with the date on the paper as clear as the nose on your face!
4. ]We get it, the owner of the shop your photos were taken has locked up for the day/weekend and won't open again until Monday.
5. that reply is no shock to those of us that know you're a fraud!
6. Thanks for helping me prove my point again!

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you ain't in any of the photos!

Nice try, you called the owner of the shop and had him take the photos.:rolleyes:

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Can you post the rest of the timeslip so we can match it to your car?

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I have 2 Super Flow 600 flow benches

I think the pictures speak for themselves, proving again you will say/type anything to discredit a person that has a performance advantage through hard work on you.

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"nice try but that's a flow bench behind that paper not the dyno room/controls you posted and you ain't in the photo."
ED BIGLEYS POST HE DELETED, telling me the dyno was a flow bench, yes the same internet expert who spews advice all through the internet. Good thing I copied it before he could delete it.

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Really, you have no idea what your typing about, there you have it.:DLOL

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Heres some more buddy, ain't a good night for you is it. LOL:D

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I said...

and not one photo has YOU in it!