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Bench Racer 01-05-2014 12:10 AM

Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
After doing a little internet digging on the inline six of Cotton Perry and watching some of the inline six modified cars I was wondering if anyone ran a inline six in Super Stock? I have saw straight six cylinder's in stock and modified/comp eliminator but have been going to the drags since 1981 and have never saw one running Super Stock.Can anyone chime in and shed a little light?? Thanks Don Jackson

GTX JOHN 01-05-2014 09:45 AM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
My Buddy Bill Chaffin has raced a V6 Buick
with a single 4 Brl. in Super Stock for 10 or 15
years.....It runs in the Nines with around 270 CI.
There are several V6 Cars back east that are
Very Fast naturally asperated back east.

Straight 6...Can not think of any out here in the West
in SS,

lstanford 01-05-2014 11:07 AM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Comp is where you find 6 cylinders. Ambrose and Huetman have run a Ford 300 inch inline 6 cylinder forever. I don't believe there is any combination that they have not tried on the old " Wood Chipper". If anyone is an expert on inline 6's it would be these two guys.

Marty Knox 01-05-2014 01:30 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
I for one would like to see a S/S class where an inline six would be competitive. That, or bring back the Modified Production classes. For those interested in inline engines, there is an organization with it's own website, www.inliners.org. The H.A.M.B also has threads on inline sixes.

Bob Pagano 01-05-2014 02:20 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Look up Adger Smith on this site, he has run an odd fire v-6 in SS for many years in an 85-6 Camaro . It flies and was # 1 qual at a bunch of nh and ih meets and set national records in both. He can tell you what you need to know

John Kelley 01-05-2014 04:19 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Inline 6 bangers in Comp....how about Kevin Self in F/EA !
He runs about 7.70's at about 155 MPH.....
That's at 6 # per CI, it's 4 valves per cylinder.....not to shabby !

Rory McNeil 01-05-2014 07:20 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
The origional poster was asking about INLINE 6 cylinders in SUPER STOCK. I think the biggest issue would be the small 1 barrel carb that would be required that most inlines used. I wonder how a Pontiac SOHC 6 with the factory Q Jet would work in something like a 67 Firebird or LeMans. Or maybe one of the old Hyper Pack MoPar slant 6s, although both likely have too high a factory HP rating.

Bill Howell 01-05-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
One I really miss. How about Clem LaChance in his SS/CS "Mad Frenchman" Maverick with a Ford inline 6. Clem was a great guy and always lots of fun to talk to.

david ring 01-05-2014 09:31 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill howell (Post 415361)
one i really miss. How about clem lachance in his ss/cs "mad frenchman" maverick with a ford inline 6. Clem was a great guy and always lots of fun to talk to.

x2

Bench Racer 01-06-2014 09:35 AM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
The only inline six I could find that had a carb bigger than a one bbl. was the 250 Pontiac and the Chrysler super six and hyper pack six. A 1979 Volare with a 225 2 bbl. super six is NHRA rated at 155 with a weight break of 19.35. SS/P is a 17.00+ weight break it would be pretty heavy. The 1961 Lancer with a 225 hyper pack six and (I think) a AFB is NHRA rated at 196 and has a 13.18 weight break, a natural SS/L car. The 1968 Firebird with the 250 OHC and Q-jet is NHRA rated at 215 with a weight break of 14.49 a natural SS/M car. The Pontiac and the Hyper Pack were NHRA rated the same as the factory h.p. rating and they look high to me. It looks like Super Stock might be a hostile environment for these six's.

Eric Merryfield 01-06-2014 11:46 AM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bench Racer (Post 415406)
The only inline six I could find that had a carb bigger than a one bbl. was the 250 Pontiac and the Chrysler super six and hyper pack six. A 1979 Volare with a 225 2 bbl. super six is NHRA rated at 155 with a weight break of 19.35. SS/P is a 17.00+ weight break it would be pretty heavy. The 1961 Lancer with a 225 hyper pack six and (I think) a AFB is NHRA rated at 196 and has a 13.18 weight break, a natural SS/L car. The 1968 Firebird with the 250 OHC and Q-jet is NHRA rated at 215 with a weight break of 14.49 a natural SS/M car. The Pontiac and the Hyper Pack were NHRA rated the same as the factory h.p. rating and they look high to me. It looks like Super Stock might be a hostile environment for these six's.

Lots of AMC's would fit including the almighty 77 Gremlin rated really high for SS @ 160, its 148 for stock. The limiting factor is getting enough fuel to flow out of the old hard to find 2 barrell carbs to run the index @ 12.65 for a PA and 12.50 for a P. You might see a few more if the holley 2 barrell could be used as a replacement carb. My 16 year old son likes the idea of slow SS.

Eric

Eric

Bench Racer 01-06-2014 12:43 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Eric, I forgot the AMC's had a 2 bbl. I used to have a Jeep J-10 with a 258 2bbl. and a 4 speed granny in the floor. Had a CJ with a 304 3 speed, and a Commando 304 with an automatic, all three got 12 mpg lol. The 77 258 is factory rated at 114, NHRA rated at 160hp. That seems pretty steep to me. shipping weight on the Gremlin is 2753 @ a weight brake of 17.21. I was looking up the Carter BBD and it seems to be flow rated at around 280 CFM. Also I agree with your Son, I enjoy seeing cars in the slower classes. Don Jackson

art leong 01-06-2014 01:47 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
If you wanted to do a 4 cylinder. You can run SS/ES, SS/FS, or SS/GS
GS is front wheel drive the others are RWD.
If you want the slowest index (13.65) in Superstock, My car is for sale.

Bench Racer 01-09-2014 12:58 AM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 415204)
My Buddy Bill Chaffin has raced a V6 Buick
with a single 4 Brl. in Super Stock for 10 or 15
years.....It runs in the Nines with around 270 CI.
There are several V6 Cars back east that are
Very Fast naturally asperated back east.

Straight 6...Can not think of any out here in the West
in SS,

I remember seeing a Buick 252 with the Q-jet running in Super Stock but can't remember what class. The guide has the 252's rated at 165H.P. and in the 19# weight break range. The weight break for SS/PA is 17.00. He must have been running heavy in SS/PA?? Without getting out the rulebook and calculator I didn't think you take that much weight out.

Dick Butler 01-09-2014 11:34 AM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Sad but true, if you believe Drag racing should be about "everything" should have a place to race in NHRA then you fit the mold for NHRA. They might just make a class for you to race bracket program at their events too. I can appreciate the interest in a "unique" 6 car but wouldnt it be neat to fit a class they have already? instead of being one of a kind. It would be a shame to have no competitor to compare your results or challenge you to be the fastest.Comp would seem more appropriate so Carbs etc can be used as needed.

buzzinhalfdozen 01-09-2014 02:12 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
I for one am glad they have some place for "non traditional" combos. Yeah I know all I really have is a very slow comp car. For me it's an affordable way to play, add in the fact that pulling a head, pan, rod, ect. isn't my idea of a good time. I admire the ones that do it just not my cup of tea.

Rory McNeil 01-09-2014 03:20 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
Yeah, how exciting would Stock or S/S be if there was nothing but 69 Camaros with 350s in them at the track?

Kegracing 01-09-2014 05:34 PM

Re: Six cylinder Super Stockers???
 
The Pontiac Sprint motors - OHC inline 6's, were offered 4 years. 66-67 were 230 cube and 68-69 were 250 cube. Came with quadrajet and cast iron dual header. Heavy motors! Were only in Tempest and Firebirds.
The motors would really run well and rev... But parts are about impossible to find now. No one really cared about a little OHC 6 back in the 60's, with the 389 - 400 - 455 offerings. I would love to see one of these in stock or ss, but you would have to custom build about everything I would think. Several people that knew the cars back then, including a couple that personally had them, told me the OHC 6 cars would outrun the 326 cars easily back then. Was a few years before my time for first hand experience.

My 67 Firebird Convertible was an original Sprint car, and I have the OHC motor and 3 speed in the shed. Actually ran this motor on the street for a while when I first got my car together. Was afraid of blowing it up, and pulled it out for a sbc. I took it to a few shows, including a big Pontiac show in Kansas City after putting it together, and got lot of attention, as not many Sprint 6's out there. Especially in a 67 Firebird convertible. I found the car in a field in KS with sunflowers hiding most of it back in 1986. Was in highschool and it took me two years of part time jobs to get it running and painted. Could still find them pretty regular back then.

I have a 400 motor with heads and intake for the 1 year only 67 build... now just need the time and money and... good stocker combo.
Will just keep racing it with the IHRA crate motor set up for now. (unless someone has a spare 400 lol )

Ken


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