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Mike Pearson 01-07-2014 12:18 PM

16 v battery
 
Its time to update my battery in my super stocker. Looking to upgrade to a 16 V battery this time. What do you recommend or not?

Thanks,

Alex Denysenko 01-07-2014 01:44 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 415541)
Its time to update my battery in my super stocker. Looking to upgrade to a 16 V battery this time. What do you recommend or not?

Thanks,

NEVER saw ANY performance gain on the track or dyno with one. Only increased expense and failure rate and very poor customer service the batteries NEVER fail it's ALWAYS YOUR fault charged it wrong, or too long, or not long enough etc ask Monty Bogan or Bill Rink sometime about their 16V experiances?
WE HAVE HAD GREAT SERVICE FROM the lightweight Rock and Braille units we use and sell them never had a failure yet.

buzzinhalfdozen 01-07-2014 02:45 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Cannot comment on any performance increases, however I've got 2 XS power 1000's in mine. Bought in 2007, quick recharge, no problems. I do not run an alt. could find no good reason not to go to 16 volt, if there is one I'm unaware of it. Of course weight was not an issue for me. Joe

Ed Wright 01-07-2014 03:10 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
I'm with Joe, and we have the same batteries. My car is faster with either 12 volts & an alternator, or 16 volts without, than 12 volts without. Had the belt come off a couple of times. No belt to screw with now. Racing starters, coils, fuel & water pumps are now made to be fine at 16 volts, as well as my FAST ECU, and MSD stuff.

Rich67stang 01-07-2014 04:35 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
I have 2- 16V Turbo starts batteries in my SS, I am very happy and they have been very reliable, especially during "round robin". Only down fall is Bulbs in autometer gauges burn out faster, I am sure there is a cure for that.

1320racer 01-07-2014 06:54 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 415554)
NEVER saw ANY performance gain on the track or dyno with one. Only increased expense and failure rate and very poor customer service the batteries NEVER fail it's ALWAYS YOUR fault charged it wrong, or too long, or not long enough etc

same thing I heard from numerous super stock racers. I run two AC Delco 12 volt batteries with 1090 CA along with an ECAE alternater. Never have I thrown a belt, never have I had a failure and no expensive, dedicated, battery charger required.

Dyno 01-07-2014 07:53 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
two Turbo Starts, very happy with them, the hemi never started so well! One word of advice, do not go with the lightweight model, use the full size. Dyno

Ed Carpenter 01-07-2014 08:49 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 415541)
Its time to update my battery in my super stocker. Looking to upgrade to a 16 V battery this time. What do you recommend or not?

Thanks,

Mike I have Turbostart. Never a problem

fordteacherguy 01-08-2014 12:51 AM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Wasn't happy with the life of my Turbostarts, 2 dead and gone in 1 season using their approved charger in my SSer. Very disappointed in quality. Anybody need a turbostart charger?

Ed Wright 01-08-2014 01:15 AM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Denysenko (Post 415554)
NEVER saw ANY performance gain on the track or dyno with one. Only increased expense and failure rate and very poor customer service the batteries NEVER fail it's ALWAYS YOUR fault charged it wrong, or too long, or not long enough etc ask Monty Bogan or Bill Rink sometime about their 16V experiances?
WE HAVE HAD GREAT SERVICE FROM the lightweight Rock and Braille units we use and sell them never had a failure yet.

Mine is a good half MPH and a couple hundredths quicker on 16v. Have to tune it for which ever you use. The injectors open faster thus runs richer with higher voltage. Belt comes off the alt it goes lean and slows down. No big deal with a carb.

buzzinhalfdozen 01-08-2014 12:01 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Ed, yes with EFI engine this can really be a problem.I can only comment on the set up I have but most "modern" chargers are automatic, I regularly leave mine on between races, no need to monitor it as it will go into a "floating" charge rate. Most of the local racers I know either run an alt. or have an old home use charger they use, most are not automatic in nature and can destroy a battery if left unattended. Mostly I guess it comes down to choice, I needed new batteries and decided to move up to 16 volt, and have no regrets of that decision. Do I think 16 volt is better....yes ignition, water pump, fans, fuel pump all receive more voltage....can't be a bad thing.

voltdr 01-09-2014 12:10 AM

Re: 16 v battery
 
I believe that most battery related failures can be traced to improper charging of the battery. Usually over charging due to a mismatch of the battery and charger being used. Most people will tell you that, "I've been doing it that way for years". Well, things have changed in those years. Learn the newest best method.
Dan

ken robinson 01-02-2016 04:43 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
My red old red top died at the end of the year , time to get a new battery . Do you guys that run the 16 volt batteries run 16 volt alternators or is the old 12 volt alt just disconnected ? I have always run 12vdc 55amp alt. and a red top very reliable , but they dropped the contingency .

Alan Roehrich 01-02-2016 06:29 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
The Super Stock car has 16V batteries, and it has a PowerMaster alternator that is adjusted to charge at around 17VDC.

Altronics 01-26-2016 12:36 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
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Ed Wright 01-27-2016 02:12 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
What do those sell for, Fred?
Do they require a special charger?

countrypuppy4865 01-27-2016 02:32 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 493766)
What do those sell for, Fred?
Do they require a special charger?

Depends on size but they over $1000. Fred will have to chime in on the required charger. Here's the link http://www.altronicsinc.com/lithium-....html#Purchase

slingshot 01-27-2016 08:48 PM

Re: 16 v battery
 
http://golithium.com/ this seams to be the hot flavor of the day


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