Scams
 

Anybody see any scams happening On Racingjunk for selling items? I had an interesting request.

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Not yet, but don't provide a phone number in any ad...you will be bombarded by automated calls.

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I know. I won't do that.

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Not here but just had one happen to me on fbody nation yesterday

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Racingjunk is loaded with crooks, if you chance a buy use a escrow company if they dont ship your cash comes home to you , its worth the extra $

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How's that work for selling stuff? I never had a probable using PayPal to purchase parts.


thanks

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Got a scam text on my car for sale yesterday.

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Get references. It's how it's done in business these days and should be done when selling any kind of high ticket item. I would think any "no name" who's looking to buy his first class car, let alone race car, has somebody who's helping them out.

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Funny, something just came up for me this evening concerning a motorcycle I have for sale on RacingJunk for $6500. Guy messages me on the site wanting me to contact him via his email which he provided in the message. I did so and he responded by email with this...

"Thanks you for the response ,am very okay with the price
I really wish to be there to look at it but i don't have a chance because I'm a very busy person.

I want this and am ready to make an instant purchase, I could only pay with a PayPal email address.

Concerning the pick up, i will arrange for a carrier after you receive the payment... Please get back to me with the info below so that i can proceed with the payment immediately if you are selling to me.

Name:
PayPal Email:
Address:
City:
State ::
postal Code:
Price:
Phone Number

As soon as this is provided, I will instruct my payment officer to issue out a PayPal payment...
Thanks and I hope to handle this in good faith,

Best Regards"

I'm a little puzzled as I have never run across this before...not sure if it is legit. The fellow does not seem too concerned about the price and does not provide a contact number for himself...this bike being the first and only item I have ever posted on RacingJunk would give me pause about being so casual as a buyer.

I was not aware one could expend that amount of money thru a Paypal account. I'm not too concerned about my own account as I have an extra layer of security and it would be near impossible for anyone other than myself to access it. It's hard to imagine how I could be hurt as I would not release the bike or the title before I had the funds in my account. Think I should email this guy back and get a phone number to talk to him first? Like to hear some thoughts on this from others. :confused:

Edit: Just learned you can make a $10,000. single transaction with a paypal account.

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Scammer.. Do not make further contact..I get these creeps all the time on Craigslist

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At a minimum yes have him give you his phone #, address, and name. It is a foreign buyer most likely(postal code is not a common term for us here in the states). Land line too. Then you can do the research to see if its a real person or not. A selfie from the cell phone too. If he is legit, just to be fair, have him pay a local mechanic to go over the bike too. A real buyer will chuckle at this but it sounds like a scam to me.......A real buyer will pick up the phone, and ask questions, want to get the bike looked at etc.

At least they will want to talk to you to inquire about all the good the bad and the ugly that you didn't mention in your ad!

Eric

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I would be careful with that Rich, it does not make much sense. I have sold some old collector bikes on ebay and you can't believe the places that the emails and calls come from, even when you state that you only sell to the USA.

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Thanks guys - Here is my ad... http://www.racingjunk.com/Customs/18...ster-1250.html

I don't understand how anyone could scam me...no way would the bike or title leave my hands without the money. What could possibly be the ploy? Debating weather to email him back or not.

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Rich, I have had this quite a few times on a site I've sold on called KIJIJI. What you got was the first contact. The next one will be a forged PayPal credit "In Trust", until they receive the bike. Any foreign buyer who is legit will phone and have real questions before offering to pay full price, just like you or I would. I've played them out to the end before(it's cold and boring in the winter where I live,LOL) and they will send you an e-mail saying you've broke the trust conditions, but by then I had already confirmed with PayPal that their payment in trust was fake. Good Luck. J.R.

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That makes sense...I'll just sit on it and see if he tries to contact me again. ;)

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Typical scam. Get messages like that all the time for ads on craigs. As for paypal ,if you were to let the bike leave your custody , in just a short time you will get a not as described dispute from Paypal . Going thru one right now ,Not fun

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Do not respond. This guy sounds like a scammer. Do not give any info. This guy did not want to give any info about himself and said he would send his agent to pick up the item and refused the shipment.

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I get these scams from Craigs List adds for used cars, also for Vacation Rentals (I have a log cabin in Maine) - You can tell immediatly after you receive a few bogus replys- My best one was people coming on vacation to Maine; from the Ukraine in Russia?
Just type delete and send them away. You also get replys from Women wanting to meet you! Never with a phone number, either with e-mail or text from smartphone.

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It's definitely a scam. Not only by the "I'll pay you your price" but the style of writing that goes into these replies to your for sale items. If he is SO busy, as he claims, how does he have time to banter with you about his interest in the bike? How does he have time to look at Craig's list? How does he have time to converse back and forth on what he needs from you? There will always be a conversation back and forth until the hook is set and he gets the property and you're left hanging with no money plus an overdraft or counterfeit check or disputes. The scammers have moved from the counterfeit checks to fraudulent Western Union wires to eBay fraud to Paypal fraud claiming various allegations and disputes. Once the property is released to a carrier, most likely an agent of the fraudster, you are likely to have lost your property - forever. Scammers used to offer above asking price knowing the greed would overrule common sense. Now that the "word" is out about that, they are using various methods to scam honest hardworking people, such as the above listed and other posts.

Good luck with the sale.

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Whatch for the fake pay-pal site,it happened to my daughter ,it looked all legit,i called pay-pal to verify transaction for my kid,they had no record of purchase ,Dont give out p-pal e-mail,,,,,,it,s a scam

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Here is what I was talking about earlier when I referred to having an extra layer of security for my Paypal account...

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps831deaae.jpg

The size of a credit card, it has an embedded chip which generates a random six digit code and displays it in the window. I must enter this code for any transaction no matter how simple. I have to use this to even log-on to Paypal's site and have it tied to Ebay's site as well. You guys need to get one of these. ;)

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Do you go through PayPal for it? Is there extra cost associated with it?

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Yes, it came thru Paypal. I had some trouble about a year ago with Ebay in that someone (apparently overseas) had made a purchase using my Ebay account. During phone conversations with Ebay and Paypal reps the PP operator brought up the opportunity of using one of these security cards... I had no idea they even existed at that point. What made it so appealing was the feature of tying it to my Ebay account so I needed to enter the security code to even log-on to Ebay. Tbh, I don't recall there being any charge for the card nor have I noticed any related fees from it's use. Even it there were a fee I would never go back to the old ways. Paypal has always been a terrific benefit for me and I use it exclusively for online purchases unless it is not offered...which is more and more seldom these days. :)

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I agree. I always use PP for eBay and other purchases. This was the first sale item I posted on racing junk, and bam, a scammer. Thanks for all the good info. I will call PP again.

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I'm sure you will like the added security. I doubt I will be using RacingJunk for any more of my stuff...maybe go look at something advertised in person is all. It's a little aggravating at times to have to log-on with the security card everytime, but then I remind myself this is fool-proof and worth the extra step involved. Zero problems since using it anyway.

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Maybe, but racing stuff is better seen on racing junk by racers. I'm thinking that the personal ads won't get much racer on lookers. Back to the thinking tank.

thanks again

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This is hilarious and I just had to share. This "Terry Moore" is a real tool...I replied to his last email telling him a contact number for himself would be a good place to begin...

(Me) - "Your telephone contact number would be a good place to begin...we will work from there."

His response - "ok you don't need to worry about that ok once the payment make i will provide all my info ok i will be waiting for you to get back to me with your paypal email for the payment..."

Replied informing him the paypal address and my email were one and the same. He sent these this morning...

"Hi,i was just about to make the payments for the item when i had this little problem with the picking up of the item, i just got an email from my agent that he won't come and pick up the item unless i pay him the agent commission fee first in order to be able to schedule a pick up time for the item, my pick up agent head quarters is in the USA and all payments made for pick up from anywhere in the world is sent to their head quarters in the USA and the only form of payments they accept is western union money transfer and i tried to pay online but i will need a credit card which i didn't bring on board, and there is no post office or any western union agent on sea! so i have to ask you to help me with the pick up fees, i will include the $1,150 they charged to pick up the item and take it to my Dad(1st class treatment), to the payments i will send through PayPal, after i have made the payments, i will need you to help me send the $1,150 to my pick up agent through western union money transfer, the western union money transfer can be made at a post office near to you,there is always a western union agent in most post offices or online at www.westernunion.com.I will be making the payments shortly and will email you as soon as it has been done.
Thanks."

Then this followed shortly thereafter...

"Hi,i have just made the payments now and i expect PayPal to have emailed by now,check your PayPal email address your inbox or Junk or spam mail if you have been messaged yet, i sent $7,750.00 in all, PayPal said they would be holding the funds because of the excess payments of $1,250 added meant for pick up of the item and due to the fact that i emailed them about the excess payment i made,until they get the western union information from you,the item is being delivered to Australia, i will need you to send the $1,150 to my pick up agent Headquarters via western union money transfer(this can be done from the post office, as they usually have a western union agent there),i added extra $100 to cover the western union charges which shouldn't be more that $100-100 but just to be sure i added $100, Here is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed to get the money sent through western union money transfer:

AGENT INFO TO TRANSFER THE FUNDS
Name:Donna Marie Maillard
Address:573 County Road #
1319 Cullman
Alabama
35058

CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP
Name:Terry Moore
Address:51 East St,
Gatton,
Queensland,
4343 Australia

Please kindly email the necessary details to PayPal :the Mtcn which you will be given at the western union after the $1,150 has been sent as well as the sender's name and address used to send the money through western union used in sending the $1,150 so i can forward it to PayPal or better still you can email it to PayPal directly,that is fine with me as well for the money i sent to be credited into your account after they might have receive the information they needed to release the whole money in your account..And i will need you to send me your home address and mobile number in full so that i can forward it to the agent to know where the item will be picked up.
Cheers."

This is supposedly from Paypal...

Payment Details:
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Transaction ID :

Item Title

Quantity

Price
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Bike 1
$6,500.00 USD


Shipping & Handling
(includes any seller handling fees)


$1,250.00 USD

Total:

$7,750.00 USD
Date of payment
20/01/2014


Payment Statues


Placed on Hold
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This is to inform you that you are required to send a sum of $1,150.00 USD to the address below via western union money transfer and get back to us with the relevant information which you will be provided with after the money has been sent, you are requested to email us the Mtcn(Money Transfer Control Number) , sender's name and address used to make the transfer.As so $7,750.00 USD to your PayPal account.Below is the address where the money is to be sent to using western union money transfer.




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Agent's Info:






Address Status:
Name:Donna Marie Maillard
Address:573 County Road #
1319 Cullman
Alabama
35058

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Yep, I have the exact same thing happening to me right now on a trailer. After the text I sent back earlier this morning, I don't think he will contact me again....

Wade

And, Plourd lives in Cullman, we'll just send him over with the Huntsville Engine wrecking crew and collect whats owed for our trouble......

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Just got off the phone with Paypal. Forward that email to " spoof@paypal.com" and they will try to track him down. :D

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So this guy goes by the name of Terry Moore? What email name did this clown use? Western union shouldn't even be mentioned. Have you contacted PayPal?

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Yes... spoof@paypal.com - They are already on the case. I may string this guy along for a bit just for giggles. :p I might up my price another $1000 and see what he does haha!

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How do we catch the guys?

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Having fun with it now. Just replied to his email with this...

"If I'm going to have to jump thru all these hoops the price of the bike just went to $7500."

I'll post what he does lol.

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The number he is texting from is 1-678-951-9376, its obvious he's foreign. I've been called alot of things, but never Blade!

Lets give these dip****s an ear full,

Blade O!

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Do you think he or they are from the US or Overseas?

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Someone needs to sticky this thread so everyone will know what to do when this happens. If you don't send the information to spoof@paypal.com nothing will get done. ;)

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How do you tell the difference nowadays? :p

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Yes, the jumbled, mis-spelled words and broken phrases are a dead giveaway...

My guy just blocked me, I just received a block message from AOL...


Wade

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Report/forward it to AOL. I'm so creeped out I'm wiping/deleting/re-formatting/re-installing both harddrives in the laptop right now haha!

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Lol!!! The dumbass actually did it! :p


Dear rickss69@comcast.net,

Be Informed that we have received another payment of $1,000.00 USD from "Mr Terry Moore" tagged 'Agent Fee'. We are assuring you that the payment has been confirmed and a total amount of $8,750.00 USD will be credited into your account.


We want to inform you that the money has been deducted from the buyer's account but will not be credited into your account until we receive the information or proof that the said amount which the buyer requested has been sent out to the bearer via WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER. A total amount of $8,750.00 USD has been deducted from the buyer's account and will be credited into your account as soon as we receive the requested information above.

After we receive the payment details from you for security purpose, your account will be credited at once, Our system has witness new upgrades, Please don't be surprised if you see us requesting for strange information and forwarding you to new customer attendants, its due to the amount of fraud going on involving our name which we are trying all our best to limit and put a stop to. As soon as we receive the requested information from you, your account will be credited.



You will get to go with the cash and send it to the bearer on the address provided by the buyer , after which you will email the MTCN number to our customer care service at for verification purpose so as for your account to be credited.

We are assuring of you a 100% safety, and as soon as the MTCN number is been emailed to us, a total amount of $8,750.00 USD will be credited into your account.

Thank You.
PayPal® UPDATE TEAM


Think I should up it another $1000? :D Sending this one into Paypal right now hehe...