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brian schuetta 02-08-2014 07:13 PM

TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
What's the best way to plug the speedometer cable hole on a TH-350? Use an old cable setup or what size plug?

Mark Yacavone 02-08-2014 08:59 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 419804)
What's the best way to plug the speedometer cable hole on a TH-350? Use an old cable setup or what size plug?

There is no fractional fit for the drive, which is about 2.075.You have to go to 2.100 and run it on a belt sander.
I usually use a rubber expandable plug ..Just install it dry. I mean brake clean dry!

brian schuetta 02-08-2014 10:30 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Mark

I knew you would know the diameter but where the hell would I find that plug? I'm going to the junk yard tomorrow to finish stripping a 305 short block. What would I need from a TH-350 to plug the hole properly?

HandOverFist 02-08-2014 10:39 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
If you have an old head I would just use it...has an o-ring if I remember right.

Tom keedle 02-09-2014 10:52 AM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 419816)
There is no fractional fit for the drive, which is about 2.075.You have to go to 2.100 and run it on a belt sander.
I usually use a rubber expandable plug ..Just install it dry. I mean brake clean dry!


how about a metric freeze plug?
I'm assuming it's the large speedo adapter rather than the small "bullet"....

HandOverFist 02-09-2014 11:04 AM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Depending on the size you might consider a boat/livewell type expanding plug.

Rick Blake 02-09-2014 11:13 AM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Sonnax Transmission Parts

Part # 35922-01K. TH350 Speedometer Hole Plug. During high performance rebuilds, the speedometer gear is often removed and replaced by a freeze plug. However, in addition to being used for driving the speedometer, the gear is also critical to lubricating the rear output shaft bushing. This new speedo plug supports the speedometer gear and allows lube to flow as the original design intended. The gear shaft has to be cut to 1.320" long. Cost $24.00

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/35922-01K.jpg

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/So...uper_Store.htm

HandOverFist 02-09-2014 11:18 AM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
That being the case then the original stock head would seem to be the way to go after all. ;)

Dragsinger 02-09-2014 11:30 AM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
I will need solid engineering proof about the statement "helps lube rear bushing"

Just consider the units in service with speedo adapter hole plugged yet they experience normal rear bushing service life.

ss3011 02-09-2014 12:06 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
The spinning governor provided the needed lube for the rear bushing. This was true for the 700-R4 also. When the transmissions were redesigned to the "e" versions, a hole was drilled that pee'd fluid back to lube the bushing.

HandOverFist 02-09-2014 12:15 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
I believe it is safe to assume if one is plugging the speedo drive hole the trans is seeing limited service on the street. That being said the impact of the deletion of said gear will have minimal impact on the lifespan of the transmission or any of it's components.

Mark Yacavone 02-09-2014 01:44 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 419893)
I believe it is safe to assume if one is plugging the speedo drive hole the trans is seeing limited service on the street. That being said the impact of the deletion of said gear will have minimal impact on the lifespan of the transmission or any of it's components.

Agreed..Plus where does the fluid go to on a drag car? ;-)

HandOverFist 02-09-2014 02:49 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 419910)
Agreed..Plus where does the fluid go to on a drag car? ;-)

On the track in some cases...:p

Tom keedle 02-09-2014 03:20 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 419892)
The spinning governor provided the needed lube for the rear bushing. This was true for the 700-R4 also. When the transmissions were redesigned to the "e" versions, a hole was drilled that pee'd fluid back to lube the bushing.

governor is one thing but the speedo gear is another...aside from always leaking and the speedo gear wearing out at the seal,how does it do anything else?

brian schuetta 02-09-2014 09:02 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Interesting discussion! I found a 87' Caprice type thing in the yard today that the same diameter speedo plug. I took that and cut the speedo cable for the screw on part and put it on the trans. So far so good. First race this weekend. Alignment shop Tuesday. Will sort thru everything that was said here and re-think what I did but I needed the trans to stop leaking right now. Thanks guys.

HandOverFist 02-09-2014 09:37 PM

Re: TH-350 Speedometer Plug Size
 
Good to go. ;)


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