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203w Kip Rhoton 02-11-2014 11:28 AM

Gumout contingency
 
Just wanted to let everyone know that gumout is paying at the track after the final 200 dollar buy in you can go buy the gumout display to sign up and purchase product or bring by your receipt from any other retailer to sign up national events only right now but maybe divisional level in the future it's been a while since someone has payed at the track so I hope everyone supports the program

Joe Schweigert 02-11-2014 11:49 AM

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I saw that I have a hard time justifying the need to have $200.00 worth of chemicals around the house that I may not ever use or the propellant will leak out over time. I'm glad they are paying just wish the requirements were less sort of like at the grocery store buy a large numbers of items you don't need to get the discount

203w Kip Rhoton 02-11-2014 12:01 PM

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Don't know what you tow with but they offer a lot of usable stuff such as def fluid and fuel treatments their carb cleaner works the same as brake clean just doesn't evaporate as fast no residue hope this helps

Pete Beau 02-11-2014 01:32 PM

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Learned from a gunsmith years ago that Gumout/ carb cleaner has a very similar chemical composition as 'gun cleaners'. Works great and costs 1/3 price.

442OLDS 02-11-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Schweigert (Post 420176)
I saw that I have a hard time justifying the need to have $200.00 worth of chemicals around the house that I may not ever use or the propellant will leak out over time. I'm glad they are paying just wish the requirements were less sort of like at the grocery store buy a large numbers of items you don't need to get the discount

Agree.

2 cars to sign up at $400?????

Good to see a contingency sponsor,but $200 for buy in?

Jody Lang 02-11-2014 02:08 PM

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Buy in is actually 225 and goes to the driver not the car.

At Pomona there were no options to get anything other than carb cleaner.

203w Kip Rhoton 02-11-2014 02:31 PM

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At Pomona freight deliveries ere screwed up from east will have other products such as def at Phoenix also they sold you 5 cases at 225 buy in is 200 I started making it an even 5 cases for 200 to keep from having loose cans catch up with me at another race and i will make it up with it being their first race things weren't as smooth as we would have liked

Lyn Smith 02-11-2014 02:38 PM

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You would think they would get alot more racers at around $100. I see that Grime Boss has lowered their buy in for this year.

pauldilcher 02-11-2014 03:24 PM

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Why would I want to spend $200 to take a shot at winning $300 . The last event I won was in 1971 . There are better ways to make money . LOL

203w Kip Rhoton 02-11-2014 04:02 PM

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I apologies for trying to bring another sponsor into a deal where so many are leaving they wanted to come in on the marketing side which would have been less money for them to spend and no money for you guys I don't work for gumout and my opinions are my own there aren't that many companies out there standing in line to support the sportsman racer I understand 200 is a little steep but the aren't as large a Company as you might think before long a trophy is all anyone will be racing for without supporting those who try to support you there has a lot of people who came up and shook the gumout folks hands and told them how much they appreciate their support some of those got checks this past weekend

Michael Beard 02-11-2014 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 203w (Post 420216)
I apologies for trying to bring another sponsor into a deal where so many are leaving they wanted to come in on the marketing side which would have been less money for them to spend and no money for you guys I don't work for gumout and my opinions are my own there aren't that many companies out there standing in line to support the sportsman racer I understand 200 is a little steep but the aren't as large a Company as you might think before long a trophy is all anyone will be racing for without supporting those who try to support you there has a lot of people who came up and shook the gumout folks hands and told them how much they appreciate their support some of those got checks this past weekend

Would Gumout like to add the Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals as a contingency-eligible event? Having another premiere event available may make the buy-in more palatable to some. You can find all of the event information on www.looserocker.com

Michael Iacono 02-11-2014 05:17 PM

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Thanks to Gumout. Nice to see someone paying at the racetrack again!

boostedf22c 02-11-2014 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldilcher (Post 420208)
Why would I want to spend $200 to take a shot at winning $300 . The last event I won was in 1971 . There are better ways to make money . LOL

Haha. No kidding. I'd rather go put $200 on black. Your chances of winning are much greater and the payout is better. Plus it only takes about 15 seconds. :)

Andys dad 02-11-2014 05:52 PM

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Are the so called "buy ins" an annual requirement?

Ron

Joe Schweigert 02-11-2014 06:39 PM

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don't get me wrong I have no problem with the product I will still buy it , just not $200.00 of it at a time

Kegracing 02-11-2014 07:30 PM

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203W,

I dont know you, and have no idea of your time in the sport... Dont get your feelings hurt. You are trying to do something good. Nothing is perfect, and people have opinions... But dont quit trying.
I am glad that Gumout is doing something. I lived thru the "good old days" of contingency, and so did a lot of others here. I remember walking the midway and with a driver arm band you would load up a wagon full of free stuff... good stuff too like wires, plugs, oil, gaskets, shirts, all kinds of cleaners, etc...
With every company that comes back, no matter how, maybe it is getting us a little closer to where we were 20 years ago. We can only hope.
I have not ran a NHRA national in over 10 years... still run some IHRA stuff, and who knows what in the future. So, some might say I dont have a dog in the fight, but I still pay my dues and still race some.
I agree with some of those posted, that $200 worth of cleaner is a lot to store. Maybe you could cut that in half, and get over twice the number of people involved??? Still would have some fuss, ( some people fuss about free icecream ) but who knows? End of the day, it is up to the company involved, and we should just be glad there are some there.

Most accurate statement on all these post yet, is "better to go put $200 on black" for most of us! LOL

Ken

G Schenck 02-11-2014 07:30 PM

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I think it is a good deal. Put one case in your trailer and sell the other cases to your auto repair shop. Thanks Gumout

ps I would bet that Dan was the first to put up his money.

James Perrone 02-11-2014 07:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 420225)
Would Gumout like to add the Auto Meter Northern Class Nationals as a contingency-eligible event? Having another premiere event available may make the buy-in more palatable to some. You can find all of the event information on www.looserocker.com

I appreciate Gumout coming on board.and they cut a check at the track.
Hey Ken any chance of you getting Mike to stop pushing the class national on every post..I mean isn't this like pushing product? This is a glorified bracket race to make money..Just my opinion ..

Michael Beard 02-11-2014 09:51 PM

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Let me be the first to apologize for trying to do something for the racers that hasn't been done in over twelve years. I will limit references to the event to within the confines of the existing relevant threads.

SSGT Mustang 02-11-2014 10:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 203w (Post 420216)
I apologies for trying to bring another sponsor into a deal where so many are leaving they wanted to come in on the marketing side which would have been less money for them to spend and no money for you guys I don't work for gumout and my opinions are my own there aren't that many companies out there standing in line to support the sportsman racer I understand 200 is a little steep but the aren't as large a Company as you might think before long a trophy is all anyone will be racing for without supporting those who try to support you there has a lot of people who came up and shook the gumout folks hands and told them how much they appreciate their support some of those got checks this past weekend

Damn, man. Periods are your friends. Don't be afraid to use one or two now and again. Comma's are cool, too.

Joe Santangelo 02-11-2014 10:29 PM

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Are there any other companies who are going to write out contingency checks at the conclusion of eliminations? If Gumout is really doing it, that's fantastic.

james schaechter 02-12-2014 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Santangelo (Post 420280)
Are there any other companies who are going to write out contingency checks at the conclusion of eliminations? If Gumout is really doing it, that's fantastic.

I agree. I use thestuff. How many cans are in a case? 200 is a lot, but if it is priced right, I bet I could sell a hundred bucks of it to a buddy. Or......Or maybe go see Jeff and trade it for some beer!

Input on new marketing is helpful, but cut the guy a (brake). I remember when the Winston girls gave out free smokes and I was only 14. There is very little of that now.

Let's not be so quickto throw rocks at the person.

203w, I will say that putting a real name out there is well received.

As far as grammar and spelling is concerned. Why is it that everyone becomes a gosh darn English teacher on these forums!
I type on my tablet touch screen and have a hard enough time typing anything. I sure as heck don't think that spelling and grammar is mission critical with most of these posts. LOL.

Dan Fletcher 02-12-2014 09:42 AM

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Obviously this is something that I immediately did, but a realize that a $200 "buy in" is a little steep for guys that don't race much or feel they don't have a realistic chance of winning. The person that put this together is Kip, who I think everyone knows as a long time midway rep who has the K&N display trailer. Kip is a friend to all sportsman racers, and he worked hard to get Gumout involved. How many new companies have become involved lately? Not many that I know of. And the paying directly at the track? Haven't seen that since Goob did it with Valvoline or Woody did it with Jegs years ago.

When Kip called me about this over the winter, I told him I thought the price point for the average racer's comfort level was probably $100. I guess the Gumout brass felt they needed to make it $200 for it to work for them. Do I think they could have sold more $5 hamburgers than $10 ones, yes I do, but apparently they didn't.

I guess all I'm saying is that its not a waste of $200. You're getting product for your money. Yes, maybe more carb cleaner than you need for a season, but I don't think it goes bad on the shelf, and as mentioned, you can always sell one or two off to a buddy. The good old days are gone everyone, there's no more money for nothing and chicks for free.

jmcarter 02-12-2014 10:19 AM

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If they pay for Divisionals and include their whole product line (including DEF) then I'd buy in.

71mavlouisville 02-12-2014 11:06 AM

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Thank you for your help with sportsman racing. I haven't purchased a gum out product in years. When I saw they were sponsoring a Pritchett's top fuel ride, I went to there website. They have a cool setup for DEF. That led to a purchase of their product. The paying at the track is a GREAT idea. You will have a lot more support.

DIAPERMAN 02-12-2014 12:23 PM

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Great job !! Thanks for bringing in a Sponsor that pays at the track .I am sure if we support Gumout they will support Sportsman racing in the future

203w Kip Rhoton 02-12-2014 01:03 PM

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Anything in the gumout line goes towards contingency.you can also go to your local autozone, advance, napa or any other retailer to purchase these products.if you purchase these products somewhere other than the track bring me the recipts at the display when you sign up.thanks for the support.

voltdr 02-12-2014 03:13 PM

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Kip,
Thanks for your help. Were you able to find out about the Sports National events?
Thanks again,
Dan Foley

203w Kip Rhoton 02-12-2014 03:46 PM

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Still working on it

philbilly 02-13-2014 08:19 AM

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Kip,
Can the reciept be scanned and sent via email? Can we register online. What about decals are they availble at the Events?
Thank you for your support!

203w Kip Rhoton 02-13-2014 11:28 AM

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The gumout display will be at every national event.you can come by the display to sign up.i will be writing the checks at the end of every event.i will work with the gumout folks to put a plan together to get the decals out to racers before the event. Thanks

203w Kip Rhoton 02-13-2014 06:23 PM

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I have talked with gumout and talked them into lowering the buy in to 100.00 anyone who signed up at 200.00 is welcome to return half the product for a refund.maybe this will help .hope to see some of the people who were displeased with the price of the buy in first in line to sign up.

Byron Worner 02-13-2014 06:31 PM

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That's awesome! You had me at $200. I think the majority of the "Racers" out here spend at least $200 on chemicals to last us an entire season. Receiving payment at the event is the best!!! More companies should follow this procedure.

Andys dad 02-13-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 203w Kip Rhoton (Post 420535)
I have talked with gumout and talked them into lowering the buy in to 100.00 anyone who signed up at 200.00 is welcome to return half the product for a refund.maybe this will help .hope to see some of the people who were displeased with the price of the buy in first in line to sign up.

Now that is how you earn your money - see you next Friday

Good job

Ron

DIAPERMAN 02-13-2014 09:43 PM

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Thanks Kip you are always looking out for the racers I will sign up at the first race

voltdr 02-13-2014 10:40 PM

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I have talked with gumout and talked them into lowering the buy in to 100.00 anyone who signed up at 200.00 is welcome to return half the product for a refund.maybe this will help .hope to see some of the people who were displeased with the price of the buy in first in line to sign up.
WTG Kip.

J.R. Haddad 02-13-2014 10:50 PM

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Kip, great job. If I can buy now and you can ship, I'll buy in today. Please let me know. Thanks again. J.R.:D

442OLDS 02-13-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 203w Kip Rhoton (Post 420535)
I have talked with gumout and talked them into lowering the buy in to 100.00 anyone who signed up at 200.00 is welcome to return half the product for a refund.maybe this will help .hope to see some of the people who were displeased with the price of the buy in first in line to sign up.

That sounds VERY fair.THANK YOU!

Larry Hill 02-13-2014 11:27 PM

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I'm in.

Adger Smith 02-13-2014 11:40 PM

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james perrone 1290 STK

Who turned your rock over? You have given your opinion and I believe everyone is entitled to one. Now I will give mine. Yes, everything is all about money. Now Go drink your NHRA juice. I'm sure you enjoy paying them and getting very little back. At least Michael Beard is a real racer that respects other racers and has gone out on a limb to provide the class racers an alternative venue. I believe if you open both eyes and read slowly you will be able to see that Mr. Beard was trying to make contact with Mr. Kip Rhoton. Oh yes he is someone from Gumout contingency that can get MONEY for us Class Racers. Tell me how does that help Mr. Beard when Contingency goes to the racers that win and meet the qualifications?
I like the idea that he is searching out sponsors to help pay MONEY to the racers. Why would Ken want to take action aginst Mr. Beard when He is owner of this site & supports Class Racing as well as the Northern Class Nationals? Humm, I don't think that would be in his best interest. Now get the burr out from under your saddle and travel on down the trail and be Happy, Happy, Happy.
BTY: Thumbs up to Gumout!


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