Fastest "fake" Buick and Pontiac???
 

With the recent talk of the "real" versions I'm curious about the fastest "fake" versions of these cars in stock and superstock. :)

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First guess without research...John Clegg went 7.96 If I remember with his SSAM Pontiac.

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I would imagine that Gallina is the fastest "fake" Buick also in the 7.9's.

I'm beginning to see a pattern here. :)

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I guess I'm not following you, Carey. Wasn't Gallina's block a original Buick V-6? At least I thought it was. I didn't know there was an aftermarket block available,,, please educate me. Thanks for any info.
Danny Durham

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Yes Galina's Buick was real Buick motor but I believe insted of single it was twin turbo. TA now makes billet evrything for V6 just not back then.

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Thats what I was thinking, Chuck. I was pretty sure the aftermarket hadn/t yet got in on the action in '02-'04 for Buick blocks, about the time John Gallina ran the 7.98, but I see what you mean about the turbos. Thanks.
Danny Durham

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So, what makes one "fake"?

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I don't know. I also don't know what makes one "real" as it seems more like an opinion that differs from person to person

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Nor do I. LOL

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:)

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I quess the whole real/fake thing started with the thread by Geerhead55. That was started to determine what was the fastest pontiac powered pontiac in Stock Eliminator. Seems it has developed a life of it's own. My opinion would be that to be real would require a car that was produced by G.M. with all the right parts. Of course, we all know that the way Stock Eliminator is now you don't need a numbers matching car to compete.

As for Galina's Buick - It started as a factory V6 Buick Regal and evolved from there. GNX I believe?? As I recall.

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I guess a fake buick would be a sbc with dart/buick heads or sbc with GM pontiac/chevy heads. Its probably as fake as you can go.

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It's been ongoing for quite some time. I see "real" pop up all the time. Not just his thread.

I've been told my car isn't a "real" superstocker

I've read that a Pontiac isn't "real" if it's got an EFI LS powerplant.

It gets confusing and seems very opinionated.

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Carey, your car may not be a true super stocker in the traditional sense, but I think it was one very cool car and just stupid fast. Some friends of mine have commented on how fast it goes for being such a small motor. All we can say is "WOW". Your are to applauded for your accomplishments with that car.

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Thanks man!! Much appreciated.

This thread is just out of curiosity as I'm fairly new to class racing and I see this pop up from time to time.

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Nothing Fake about Gallinas car :rolleyes: that was all Buick. Just a bent 6 with a hair dryer and a little ahead of its time John is a great guy!

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SS/AH; SS/AA-SS/P, SS/AAA-SS/PA = real/traditional S/S

SS/GT, GT/Truck, SS/AS, SS/AM, SS/AX, SS/Mod Truck, etc = not real/traditional.

Mine and others opinion.

~Not sure why someone would refer to an LS-based Pontiac as not real--at least the factory BUILT those. Al Corda ran a 9.98 in A/FIA (same weight as A/SA) eleven years ago, and I believe 1-2 others have been in the 9's, making them the quickest Pontiac Stockers ever.

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Whats your take on the new factory cars? COPO, Drag Pak and Cobra Jet's?? By that theory they are "real" traditional stock and super stockers??

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They should be S/S-only. Same as the '68 Hemis, '69 AMX and '64 Thunderbolt (until 2008). Non-street legal factory race cars not eligible for Stock.

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Mike,, Its not that an LS based Poncho isn't real,, its just that I was asked about a traditional Pontiac engine based stocker, which dates back to before GM got rid of the engines of the separate divisions, mainly Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac as I'm sure you're aware. They stayed with the Chevy stuff as "corporate' until the development of the LS family of engines. I seem to recall a few Olds powered Firebirds out there, however. Thats what got this whole snowball rolling on these threads this week,,, sorry for any confusion,,I think? Its been fun reading these.
Danny Durham