Chrysler's legal Dept has gone nuts
 

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Why destroy 93 Vipers?
There are other ways to handle this situation.

I got this from one of my friends that is a DP and Viper owner.
This is a sad deal.

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Crazy.

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It's not like years ago when the guys that worked for car company's were car guys. These DHs don't care 1 bit about the cars. All they care about is the bottom line. To them these cars are just like a box of cookie's it is only a product. So who care's what happen's to them. Sad what the world has become.

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I'm a trainer for our Ford ASSET technician training apprenticeship program and deal with these issues all the time. We are grateful when we get free donated cars from the manufacturer to train with, it keeps our training programs up to date with current automotive technology.

Yes it's seems nuts to crush these beautiful cars, but since these prototypes vehicles have no titles /branded titles/or no assigned VIN there are clear stipulations from the manufacturer in their donation process that when those cars are donated to educational training institutions they can't:
Drive them on the street
Sell parts for profit
Try to license them
Race them

In the case of the Vipers, Because there are no titles on these donated vehicles to sever the liability from the manufacture /the manufacture is legally liable hence /crush them all. May not seem right, but in today's legal world it's a necessity and from a purely teaching standpoint the technology is outdated. But the Viper still is a always will be a beautiful and cool car.

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My father was on the engineering team for the Chrysler Turbine car. Because it was a government collaboration when the program got canceled they ordered all of the cars to be destroyed. Fortunately a few got 'snuck-out' the back door.

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Haven't the car companies given pre-production cars, "test mules", etc. to people to make into race cars only? Or have things gotten so sticky that they don't/can't do that anymore either?

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Why couldn't they sell them to drag racers like the DP program. No titles no Vins no problem. Just plain silly.

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could you go down and get a lost title and add a new vin given to you by the court house? Like when you build a car from scratch.

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Prototypes are always "supposed" to be crushed, been that way for many years. Part of the issue with them is EPA compliance too.

I had the pleasure of chatting with some of the engineers on the GNX program. They were there driving GNX prototype #7. I asked them what was going to happen to the car when they were done with it and one of them winked at me and said it would be crushed. I always wondered which one of them ended up with it. It had 3200 miles on it and the rear tires were almost showing cords. :D

Rumor has it on the Mopar boards that one of the donated Vipers was involved in an on street accident, hence the order for all of them to be turned in and crushed. I do believe that their claim the car is worth "hundreds of thousands" is a bit of a stretch.

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Even at $10 grand a piece it would have been nearly a million dollars

As an interested by stander

Ron

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Since these cars were donated by the old Chrysler corp Why should the new company have any sya about them. When they filed bankruptcy this let them doaway with any dealears by them by not renewing there dealer agreement. becanue there was no company. so the cars were donated by the company that is out of business.
I would sure like to talk to a school that has a viper

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Sonny,
You are thinking along the lines I was. I also have problems with a company that says they want to help schools and higher education giving them a product/parts or equipment to use and then when it doesn't fit their needs calling a halt ( taking back or disposing of the items) to the program. If Chrysler was really into helping higher education (It was probably more about PR) they would let the schools sell the vehicles or equipment and reinvest the money in their education programs. I have ties to our local education system and I can tell all of you that would be a big help for any school program. It could also be a positive for Chrysler instead of a negative. I would think that people in the management of Chrysler would be looking for some positive ink instead of just listening to what the legal Dept has as a contract. Come on Chrysler isn't there someone in you company smarter than an East Texas Redneck?

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like I said I sure would like to talk to one of these schools before they crush these cars

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I got hired by Chrysler in 1965 at the Proving Grounds. One of the first jobs I got put on was destroying a Turbine Car. That was really hard to destroy such a cool car.

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One of the articles I read the school was claiming their car was worth "hundreds of thousands of dollars" because it is so rare.

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Having spent 2 years as a technician for Chrysler. They better step up to attract more young people to be technicians. They have more demand from my searches than any other car brand. Many say they don't take care of techs. Many good people looking to leave from wrenching for them. One big plus is the instructors are absolutely dedicated who I have studied under.
In the metro NY area. There are many Chrysler tech jobs especially master tech job openings going unfilled. It is all about the money. It trickles down to lube techs. Keep the Vipers where they are and use them for what they are worth. There is still a lot to be learned to attract new blood. It's not easy. The pay has not kept up with the times here. Hard to believe a tech needs to tell corporate that.
Removing them is another bad move.
ps. It is not Chrysler anymore.
It's Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.
Keep your cars tech schools!!!!!!

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I saw a letter from Chrysler Legal posted this morning that says this story is bogus. Chrysler is not planning on recalling or scrapping any Vipers.

It is the Interweb, anything can be faked.

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Well, it is the internet, but I wouldn't be too quick to place blame on "The Net"
As I said at the first of the thread. I got the link that was posted from a friend that is a Viper and DP owner. If you go to that link you see the author refrences his source. His source is "The Olympian" yep, more "Net' but that author, toverman@theolympian.com references the South Puget Sound Community College & Professor Norm Chapman as the source of the information. then the author goes on to Say" Steven Glasco, vehicle donations coordinator at Chrysler, confirmed that the complete collection of the educational donation Vipers nationwide must be crushed. He would not comment further on the numbers of vehicles or why the decision was made."

This apperars to have real people with real names attached to the stories all the way into the Chrysler organization.

So, looks like someone either did a real smooth job of backtracking, for whatever reason, or the "Net" is wrong about the letter from the legal Dept. of Chrysler saying it is Bogus.

Big Show, Show me some real names with Chrysler or their Legal Dept memo's with real names attached and then I'll make up my mind about this "net" story. Some sort of follow up story by The Olympian might be in order.

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UUUUGGGGGG Someone needs to put a stop this . I hope it is not true ..:(

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It was on King 5 news in Seattle when it first happened. They interviewed the school people on TV.