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BLIND MULE 04-09-2014 09:01 PM

Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
http://www.dragracingonline.com/index.html

rick lester 04-09-2014 09:40 PM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
Larry Morgan is the last of my generations racing heros still racing. Racers today don't have the same "balls" as the racers from my childhood (I'm 44).

Ed Wright 04-09-2014 09:41 PM

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He usually does.

Tom P 04-09-2014 09:42 PM

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Great stuff there.

BLIND MULE 04-09-2014 09:49 PM

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Larry is a racer's racer he knows where he came from most P/Stock drivers don't!

Ed Carpenter 04-09-2014 10:16 PM

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Love Larry Morgan. The guy doesn't give a .... What anyone thinks. He's the only one you can just walk up and look at his car. Reher Morrison use to do that also. Everyone else won't let you within 20 feet of there car.

Mike Semeniuk 04-09-2014 10:21 PM

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IMHO There's something to be said about knowing where you came from. A lot of what is stated and written has been the undercurrent of discussions in all the classes over the last few years. Larry has stature and tenure - somebody ( everybody) should pay attention. It was a well written article.

Ed Fernandez 04-09-2014 11:52 PM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
It's like he said on TV a long time ago "You can';t fix stupid".

Paul Precht 04-10-2014 12:02 AM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
He's right, and on a smaller level, Stock is in the same boat.

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 04-10-2014 12:20 AM

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Good article. The dynamics of the sport has to start picking up some positive ground. Intelligent Marketing and Networking are required. MB

M&M Motorsports 04-10-2014 06:13 AM

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This is a "must read" article for everyone ! Larry has articulated the problems of racing today so that even NHRA should be able to understand.

Greg Hill 04-10-2014 06:46 AM

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As long as present management at NHRA is in place I don't see much positive happening. I think they will continue to operate like they are until they can no longer pay their salaries and then they will walk away, leaving who knows to pick up the pieces. There are no racers left in management and there hasn't been for a long time.

Bobby DiDomenico 04-10-2014 08:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 427298)
Love Larry Morgan. The guy doesn't give a .... What anyone thinks. He's the only one you can just walk up and look at his car. Reher Morrison use to do that also. Everyone else won't let you within 20 feet of there car.

Ed,
Many years ago I was able to spend about half an hour talking with both David and Buddy about their car after they had just lost in eliminations at Bandimere. When he was sick, Buddy autographed a brand new "old stock" Reher, Morrison & Shepard t-shirt we had and then gave to DRAW for their auction. I'm thinking some of these guys might be playing mind games with the competition, like our dirt track guys using black metal underneath so no one can "see" their rear suspension:-D

jmcarter 04-10-2014 08:53 AM

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He made some good points and recognizing the knowledge and work of guys like Glidden and WJ is great, makes him "real" to many of us who have raced for years. The current management isn't really invested in the future of racing, they are obviously just in it for a fat check, no different than running a Taco Bell franchise or 7-11. Found it really interesting about Ford's lack of support and speculating about Kallitta and Schumacher stepping away and what would happen next. Just like bracket racing saved the sport years ago it may yet get another chance.

Rose Racing 04-10-2014 08:55 AM

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If Ford has no interest in drag racing why do they keep making new CJs left and right? I dont think they have much interest in carburated $100,000 engine morphed into almost Funny Car looking Pro Stockers.... I do think they have interest in Stock/Super Stock.

Andys dad 04-10-2014 12:12 PM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
Pro Stock needs to sh.t can the carbureted big motor and stupid hood scoops

Go to flat hood cars with injection and blowers and stop all of the aero package crap

There is not a single production car made in the world any more that uses the technology that Pro Stock uses


IMHO

Ron

Ed Wright 04-10-2014 02:20 PM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
Lots of Comp cars & SM SS cars do.

Much of our piston, ring and valve train technology trickled down from Pro Stock.
If you have a Stocker, not as much applies. The word Stock in the name has nothing to do with Stock Eliminator. People complain "they all look alike!" Walk through a shopping mall parking lot. Most of the newer cars, of any brand, look just as much alike.
I can't imagine why their appearance bothers some that much. Get real.

How can anybody that knows anything about building engines not be impressed by normally aspirated engines making that kind of power? Or that many cars, of different mfgrs, all running times that close together?

astikhossw 04-10-2014 02:57 PM

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But they could do even better with a high powered twin turbo 4 or 6 cylinder fuel injected cars.Yea

Jim Caughlin 04-10-2014 03:05 PM

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Rose Racing, you are misinformed about Ford's interest in Stock & SS. They are interested in selling Cobra Jets, they do not a have a clue and/or care that any other Ford product exists. There was a time when Ford had pretty decent contingiency payouts, they pulled most of that money and directed it at the Cobra Jets. Can't fault them but don't nurse any illusion that they are supporting sportsman racing.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

west coast 04-10-2014 03:07 PM

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I think Larry held back on his comments about NHRA.

supergas4 04-10-2014 03:28 PM

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Larry has got it right .

Jim Kaekel 04-10-2014 04:22 PM

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Superb article. Can't blame a guy for telling it as he sees it. A little bit of schmoozing his sponsor in the article, but you can't really blame him for that.

Rose Racing 04-10-2014 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 427356)
Rose Racing, you are misinformed about Ford's interest in Stock & SS. They are interested in selling Cobra Jets, they do not a have a clue and/or care that any other Ford product exists. There was a time when Ford had pretty decent contingiency payouts, they pulled most of that money and directed it at the Cobra Jets. Can't fault them but don't nurse any illusion that they are supporting sportsman racing.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

Its kinda easy to be misinformed about such things I dont know anybody that works at Ford Racing just making a guess.Im loosing more and more interest in PRO drag racing period...... The Ford Pro Stocks dont even run a Ford based engine....... They run a generic Mopar 99 Hemi lol and then we ask why they are not interested.......

Andys dad 04-11-2014 11:35 AM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 427349)
Lots of Comp cars & SM SS cars do.

Much of our piston, ring and valve train technology trickled down from Pro Stock.
If you have a Stocker, not as much applies. The word Stock in the name has nothing to do with Stock Eliminator. People complain "they all look alike!" Walk through a shopping mall parking lot. Most of the newer cars, of any brand, look just as much alike.
I can't imagine why their appearance bothers some that much. Get real.

How can anybody that knows anything about building engines not be impressed by normally aspirated engines making that kind of power? Or that many cars, of different mfgrs, all running times that close together?

production car not drag car but then who really cares

David Lee 04-11-2014 01:40 PM

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I can see lots of parallels from his interview that can relate to stock. The price of engines and building a car has gotten out of hand. A good set of heads now cost more than a complete engine did 12 years ago. Transmission that are 5K plus. No wonder we are seeing not very much new blood into the class. For the kind of money that it costs to be build a mid level class car, a kid can build a car that can run faster for less money

Chad Rhodes 04-11-2014 03:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 427435)
I can see lots of parallels from his interview that can relate to stock. The price of engines and building a car has gotten out of hand. A good set of heads now cost more than a complete engine did 12 years ago. Transmission that are 5K plus. No wonder we are seeing not very much new blood into the class. For the kind of money that it costs to be build a mid level class car, a kid can build a car that can run faster for less money

excellent point.

Greg Hill 04-11-2014 05:17 PM

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Only 15 pro stockers in Charlotte. They should be racing Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers that look like cars you can buy instead of all looking alike. Rules should be changed to reduce the costs. This is not rocket science to put on a good show that will interest folks.

Ed Wright 04-11-2014 05:44 PM

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Greg, you can't tell the Mustangs & Camaros apart? Seriously?

Randall Klein 04-11-2014 06:41 PM

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Butt ugly....hard to tell from the side, bubble butts, good thing they have decals and some sort of grille hints

Regardless of performance I can't stand to watch any of the pro classes

Kevin Panzino 04-11-2014 07:14 PM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 427471)
Butt ugly....hard to tell from the side, bubble butts, good thing they have decals and some sort of grille hints

Regardless of performance I can't stand to watch any of the pro classes


Have to agree. The more recent pro stock cars look absolutely preposterous.. Those scoops are the most hideous creations to ever grace a dragstrip... And the bodies themselves look ridiculous... Very unattractive lines.

randy wilson 04-11-2014 08:00 PM

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I don't know. Hood scoops have been a part of drag racing since it's inception. Would hate to see them go, but I'm old, so there.

Ed Wright 04-11-2014 08:08 PM

Re: Larry Morgan tells it like it is!
 
Heck, I guess don't watch them. Like nobody watches us.

vette1 04-11-2014 08:49 PM

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What Larry said is so true.!!!!!!!! Say it once again if not for grass roots drag racing there is no drag racing!!!!!!!!!!! Pro classes are great ,but the average person can relate to real door cars. Bring back Modified Eliminator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks

Rose Racing 04-11-2014 10:23 PM

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im sorry but this looks like a mustang funny car with a hood scoop

https://sp1.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608...39301&pid=15.1

https://sp3.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608...36603&pid=15.1

Ed Wright 04-11-2014 10:26 PM

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Guess you don't like a lot of Comp cars either?
Bet those guy's feelings are hurt. LOL

Ed Fernandez 04-11-2014 10:49 PM

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Make the Pro Stocks do it old school.Make them steal mail boxes and bolt them to the hood.

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 04-11-2014 11:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rose Racing (Post 427497)

Looks similar to your hood scoop.

FireSale 04-12-2014 01:09 AM

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The car designs are approved by NHRA, so don't blame the teams. They are wind tunnel designed for maximum efficiency at speed.

My other hobby is building models. Here's a comparison of a stock 2010 Camaro to the NHRA pro stock version.


Dale

Rose Racing 04-12-2014 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MAURICE BLENDHEIM (Post 427506)
Looks similar to your hood scoop.

love the hood scoopes I am one in favor of them and I just liked the mustang nose before the new one Larry came up with and love competition eliminator too. I just think PS is getting out of hand in a lot of departments........

Michael Beard 04-12-2014 09:00 AM

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If you were in charge, what would YOU do?

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