Has there ever been a 4 cyl. car run in the 11's in Stock ?
 

Just curious if any 4 cylinder GM, Mopar, or Ford has ever ran an 11.99 or quicker in the 1/4 at an NHRA event.

Also, has a 4cyl. car ran over 109 mph in the 1/4 ?

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Bender's Vega (ha ha! jk)

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Mart Buth, P/SA 12.21 corrected to 12.00 & 109 mph, - 1,463 under at Kearney Open last Oct. Tom

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An 08 Saturn sky or 08 Pontiac solstice would have the potential to run 10s

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I've been thinking about that combination for the past few years, would be so much fun. Those ecotecs have a lot of potential. 2.2L and 2900 lb in F/SA

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What would Carey Bales Honda combo run in Stock? It's bad fast in SS.

See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

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I had that one pegged the first day that it hit the guide! Definitely not a "Dime Rocket" though. I'd run it in H, the turbos don't care about weight.

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If I didn't have so many other projects going I would love to build a Solstice.

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They are relatively heavy, auto trans would have to go since it is delicate, rear gears are hard to find, I can go on. I autox and bracket race my 2009 solstice (NA). Worst thing I've had to deal with is the electric throttle (seems to open/close when it wants to) and the granny controls on the engine management system. Another problem is the interior is very confined, so putting a cage in would require someone smaller than my 6 foot 3, 232 pound frame...helmet sticks out above the windshield now...

Since it is primarily an autox car, rules prevent me from changing much of that stuff. Still, it corners exceptionally well, and the brakes have kept many a deer from my windshield. one local autox championship 2012-didn't compete last year because of govt furloughs.

No doubt, under stock class rules, they could be made to run well, especially putting in a different trans/converter.

Big heavy wheels all around, stock are 18x8. I believe smallest front wheel would be a 16 inch due to brake size.

attached is Sunday's autox in Virginia Beach.

Jeff Laferty

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Hasnt Mark Walton with his SS/O 83 Gt turbo 4cyl car been low 11's

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Lot's of stuff can come out for Stock.

Both can be replaced with much better parts.

This could be fixed with an aftermarket controller. I'm not sure how the direct injection would be dealt with, but I bet it can be figured out.

It would be tight. Only requires a roll bar. Keep in mind that you would have to run with the top up.

I bet that both combinations would do well.

You would want to install aftermarket brakes.

It wouldn't be cheap to build a Solstice, but I think it would be a cool car to race. I would love to have a four cylinder wheelstander!

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If I thought for a minute I could comfortable get in one of those cars I'd build one.

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Maybe someone should peek in Chuck Blossom's garage. It doesn't take him long to get bored.

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Andrew the turbo charged version is actually a 2.0l but I have seen a cobalt ss (fwd) with a tune cold air intake and exhaust go 12.80s 113mph leaving at idle.

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SS/FS 11.88 111.34 05/29/12 James Caughlin

Naturally aspirated 2.3, runs good and goes rounds.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

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I believe Caughlin went 11.24 at Mission last year. Runs very well!

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Alan asked about stock not super stock in this thread. Tom

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No…Why?

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Yes, he was asking about Stock Eliminator.
If you add Super Stock, there are and have been many 4 cyl cars that have gone quicker than 11's.

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Thanks for the replies guys.

The reason I was asking is because it's a little Stock Eliminator research project of mine. ;)

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I expect that the 2015 Mustang Ecoboost will be able to do it if Ford puts it in the guide.
Roland

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Sorry guys I guess my reading comprehension skills on this post bad.. If we ever change back to the SVO we will have to because it runs j/s.. We have now changed back to the 84 gt turbo car.. Should be out in a few weeks..

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Why would they want to put something in the guide that anyone can walk into a dealer showroom, buy and race competitively?

If recent history has shown us anything, they would probably build a few $100K special non streetable Ecoboost pieces and pass them off as Stock eliminator cars for the lower classes. It don't seem to be too hard to get a new "anything" put in the guide.

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they have put all of the regular production Mustangs in the guide recently up through 2014.
Roland

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When you say lower classes do you mean A/s B/s C/s because that is the ET's they will be running right out of the box with just tuning and race gas.

Stock V6 3.5l ecoboost 365hp 5000rpm 420 torque at 2500 rpm in pickup now/ more horsepower and torque than 5.0l and almost same as 6.2 iron block from factory, it is also a 4 valve motor and that horsepower rating is at 5000rpm. Quick tune in a mustang and it will be 10's a good tuner/builder will have it 9's in a mustang in no time Think what the buick turbo regal 2 valve motor almost 30 years ago did.

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the ecoboost that is going to be used in the 2015 Mustang is a four cylinder.
Roland

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The 2014 Mustang with the 227 V6 engine is shown as 260 horsepower in the class guide, but the V6 Mustang you buy at the dealer is 305 horsepower.

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You would rather race it at 305?

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I have also looked into building a Turbo Solstice/Sky Stocker. They look good, are pretty light and slick aerodynamically.

Down sides are it's short wheel base (only 95"), and the lack of visibility out the rear of the car, especially trying to look into the right lane for those Copos, DPs & CJs that you know are coming.

http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps5da92bb2.jpg

The Solstice was available as a coupe with a removable targa top in 2009, which would be better aero than the rag-top & seemingly make fitting the roll bar easier.

MY2009 isn't in the Guide, but the car is listed as a "Coupe" in the Guide for MY2006-08. Would this be considered a "paper car" like the '98 Camaro/Firebird with the LT1 motor?

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Would you rather the car be classed at the 305 factory horsepower or at 260 if it happened to be in your class?

305 would fall in G/S while 260 falls in K/S. That's quite a difference!!!!!

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I've been looking at the various Ford turbo 4 cylinder combos for SS for quite some time and had petitioned NHRA to allow non V8 GT cars (GT is currently V8 only). With a swap over to a flat steel hood, my car could run these classes. As mentioned there are some killer combos out there if they were legal. I think NHRA sees the can of worms that could occur if these combos were made legal and doesn't want to mess with it.

Joe, regarding how fast a 4 cylinder can run in SS, if someone wants to compensate me for killing the SS/ES index, I'll show how far into 10's I can run.

Jim Caughlin
SS 6019

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Well, 37 days after I started this thread and posted the question, I get my answer.


Marty Buth officially made the first 11 second pass at an NHRA event with a 4 cylinder powered Stocker on May 24, 2014 in Bowling Green, KY

Congrats to Marty !


( If I had just left 5.8 seconds earlier, I would have been the first....darn. LOL )


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OK..

BIG Freaking DEAL..:eek:

Now when are you going to hit 10's :D


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^^ LOL

Dan, this is for you:


http://forums.techguy.org/attachment..._2-600x329.jpg


Dan:
As far as the 10's go, I'll leave that to the 2015 Mustang 2.3L Ecoboost racers. (if it gets included into the Stock Car classification guide)

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Congrats to the both of you. Al, you might want to look into a practice tree. :)

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Thanks Tom.

LOL at the practice tree . :D

You mean a 5.8 second r/t is bad ?

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Not if the other guy redlights.

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This is great..made my morning..LOL
More Dilithium Chrystal's Spock!

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