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Dan Fahey 04-22-2014 12:32 PM

No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nationals
 
Hello ALL:

Got several emails regarding Fuel Checks on Pure Stockers.

There are NO Fuel Checks on Pure Stockers.

IHRA allows Pure Stockers to use Pump Gas or Race Gas..
You can mix them with NO consequence!
Pump Gas is fine.

Again ..NO Fuel Checks on Pure Stockers.

Dan

Mike Taylor 3601 04-22-2014 12:42 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Alright!!! getting some nitro LOL
Mike Taylor 3601

Michael Beard 04-22-2014 12:52 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
IHRA rules state: "Pure Stock entries may utilize OEM unleaded blends meeting the rulebook specifications." It does NOT say that you can use anything you want. It is NOT an open invitation to use ERC, Nitromethane, Methanol, Propylene Oxide, or anything else not on the accepted fuels list.

Tech questions should be directed to event promoters and our staff.

Dan Fahey 04-22-2014 05:38 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 428752)
Alright!!! getting some nitro LOL
Mike Taylor 3601

Mike Taylor;
Funny you should write that..
I did too and deleted it to keep the topic clean..

So funny.....
What is that Blue Yellow Flame coming out of those Pure Stockers ???:eek:

Mike Beard:
Thanks for following up.
My post is consistent with yours..
Was trying to clarify the Rule.

d

Mike Taylor 3601 04-23-2014 09:29 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 428753)
IHRA rules state: "Pure Stock entries may utilize OEM unleaded blends meeting the rulebook specifications." It does NOT say that you can use anything you want. It is NOT an open invitation to use ERC, Nitromethane, Methanol, Propylene Oxide, or anything else not on the accepted fuels list.

Tech questions should be directed to event promoters and our staff.

I put LOL afterwards does'nt that make it OK.

I was completely joking,If that cause you any problems for you Michael I apologize,don't want you to have problems I hope all goes smoothly
Mike Taylor 3601

gbur 04-23-2014 09:32 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 428753)
IHRA rules state: "Pure Stock entries may utilize OEM unleaded blends meeting the rulebook specifications." It does NOT say that you can use anything you want. It is NOT an open invitation to use ERC, Nitromethane, Methanol, Propylene Oxide, or anything else not on the accepted fuels list.

Tech questions should be directed to event promoters and our staff.

pump gas only and for what reason would we not be checked

Mike Taylor 3601 04-23-2014 09:35 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
BTW mine can be checked will have C-11 in it
Mike Taylor 3601

Dan Fahey 04-23-2014 09:46 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 428863)
BTW mine can be checked will have C-11 in it
Mike Taylor 3601

Mike:
Did you see any improvement over pump gas?
Talked to several racers and depending on their ride say Pump Gas works better than Race gas.
Usually they have Low Compression Engines.

I can see the High Octane working better for High Compression Engines.
Read conversations of one type being better than another.

Dan

Mike Taylor 3601 04-23-2014 01:07 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
It's is slightly better in mine,more consistent ,no ethanol
Mike Taylor 3601

gbur 04-23-2014 01:38 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Just wondering how many don't pay attention to rules or maybe don't care

Dan Fahey 04-23-2014 03:01 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gbur (Post 428887)
Just wondering how many don't pay attention to rules or maybe don't care

Everyone pays close attention.
Hence the many questions on the forums.
Everyone has been stung by Tech at one time.
Vast majority of issues are honest mistakes.

D

gbur 04-23-2014 03:50 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 428896)
Everyone pays close attention.
Hence the many questions on the forums.
Everyone has been stung by Tech at one time.
Vast majority of issues are honest mistakes.

D

race gas is not an OEM blend. Go figure

Dan Fahey 04-23-2014 04:14 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gbur (Post 428900)
race gas is not an OEM blend. Go figure

Yeah the controversy came when they Ethanol Blending was added to fuels.

Expensive Standardization..

D

Kenny Wigington 04-23-2014 06:13 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
#1 Qualifier PS -1.992 9.993 131.21

This reporters eyes and nose are burning....


Just kidding !

ALMACK 04-23-2014 06:42 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny wigington (Post 428912)
#1 qualifier ps -1.992 9.993 131.21

this reporters eyes and nose are burning....


Just kidding !

^^ lol

Painter 04-23-2014 08:01 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
I am realy trying to understand some of this. A couple of guys are all hopped up on pure stock. But then the same guys are talking about convertors and cams and now bragging about NO FUEL check. Is it pure stock or street cars that really should be bracket racing until they can race Stock or Super Stock or some other class that has been around since the beginning.

gbur 04-23-2014 08:31 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 428924)
I am realy trying to understand some of this. A couple of guys are all hopped up on pure stock. But then the same guys are talking about convertors and cams and now bragging about NO FUEL check. Is it pure stock or street cars that really should be bracket racing until they can race Stock or Super Stock or some other class that has been around since the beginning.

for your info ,brackets did not exist in the beginning. AND what is wrong with pure stock ? I have a regular stocker also. Ran Modified elim for years to. But of course there will always be haters

Painter 04-23-2014 09:41 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
I really don't think I need you to tell me when bracket racing started. What I am saying is: if it is pure stock then dag gone it let it be pure. When you start getting cams done, convertors done and bragging about NO FUEL check, then it is NOT Pure Stock. Either race stock or not. What is so hard to understand. With these rules some of us experienced guys could put a two and half or three seconds under, just for the fun of it. What do you think Paul, Bob whoever.

Dan Fahey 04-23-2014 10:40 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 428935)
I really don't think I need you to tell me when bracket racing started. What I am saying is: if it is pure stock then dag gone it let it be pure. When you start getting cams done, convertors done and bragging about NO FUEL check, then it is NOT Pure Stock. Either race stock or not. What is so hard to understand. With these rules some of us experienced guys could put a two and half or three seconds under, just for the fun of it. What do you think Paul, Bob whoever.

Painter...the name is what it is..!
You can make the same argument for Stock or SS.

Pure Stock basically is Jr Stock with tighter rules.
Or
how Stock became after 1974 with tight Cam and Spring Rules.
Stock morphed because of time consuming Cam inspection.
Stock Tech now just measures Lift.

In fact most of us can drive our cars to the track and often do on the Street.

D

gbur 04-24-2014 01:10 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 428935)
I really don't think I need you to tell me when bracket racing started. What I am saying is: if it is pure stock then dag gone it let it be pure. When you start getting cams done, convertors done and bragging about NO FUEL check, then it is NOT Pure Stock. Either race stock or not. What is so hard to understand. With these rules some of us experienced guys could put a two and half or three seconds under, just for the fun of it. What do you think Paul, Bob whoever.

And you remain a hater, thats your choice

Mike Taylor 3601 04-24-2014 08:53 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 428935)
I really don't think I need you to tell me when bracket racing started. What I am saying is: if it is pure stock then dag gone it let it be pure. When you start getting cams done, convertors done and bragging about NO FUEL check, then it is NOT Pure Stock. Either race stock or not. What is so hard to understand. With these rules some of us experienced guys could put a two and half or three seconds under, just for the fun of it. What do you think Paul, Bob whoever.

Painter,
Have you read the rules,and do you understand them?
There might be some under rated combo that can go 2- 3 seconds under,if JT Allen was still alive he probaly would have found them.
I can tell you this,I don't think it would be a 79 malibu 305/160-230,if you can put a pure stocker 2-3 seconds under let's see it just for the fun of it.
What's your real name painter?

KennyAnderson 04-24-2014 10:02 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Painter (Post 428935)
I really don't think I need you to tell me when bracket racing started. What I am saying is: if it is pure stock then dag gone it let it be pure. When you start getting cams done, convertors done and bragging about NO FUEL check, then it is NOT Pure Stock. Either race stock or not. What is so hard to understand. With these rules some of us experienced guys could put a two and half or three seconds under, just for the fun of it. What do you think Paul, Bob whoever.

"us experienced guys". OK Den! LOL! 2 1/2 to 3 seconds under LEGALLY??? That rich! You got experience with fogger nozzles?!?;););)

gbur 04-24-2014 10:33 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 428973)
"us experienced guys". OK Den! LOL! 2 1/2 to 3 seconds under LEGALLY??? That rich! You got experience with fogger nozzles?!?;););)

amen

Dan Fahey 04-24-2014 10:40 AM

My Dumb-*** Mistake - Fuel Check
 
After reading the rules and a couple emails politely correcting my mistake.
I unintentionally misspoke and instead cause a bone headed controversy.

Pure Stocker rules for our class state Street Gasoline (OEM Fuels ) are allowed.

If we want we can use the Stocker allowed Racing Blends.

It does not mean we will not get Fuel Checked.
That was my mistake.
Our cars have to meet the IHRA Guide lines.

My humble apology.

Dan

Dan Fahey 04-24-2014 10:43 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gbur (Post 428950)
And you remain a hater, thats your choice

Gary;
Painter is not a HATER.. Just uninformed..!

Welcome to Pure Stock Painter...

Strap in !!

D

gbur 04-24-2014 10:51 AM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 428980)
Gary;
Painter is not a HATER.. Just uninformed..!

Welcome to Pure Stock Painter...

Strap in !!

D

time will tell

KennyAnderson 04-24-2014 12:15 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Hey Dan, GREAT to meet you in Bradenton! Love the SS. I tried to get down to the Summerton camp to shoot the breeze with all of you more but I was hoppin!! LOL! I was doubling in stock and no box, my 16 yo son was doubling in no box and juniors, and my youngest was also in juniors. WHEW!!! I was whupped after that weekend!! Let me know when you plan on coming down again. Our next race your way will be Bristol and some NC racing this July, Darlington labor day weekend, or the Div2 finals in Jackson SC late Sept.

Dan Fahey 04-24-2014 03:32 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyAnderson (Post 428990)
Hey Dan, GREAT to meet you in Bradenton! Love the SS. I tried to get down to the Summerton camp to shoot the breeze with all of you more but I was hoppin!! LOL! I was doubling in stock and no box, my 16 yo son was doubling in no box and juniors, and my youngest was also in juniors. WHEW!!! I was whupped after that weekend!! Let me know when you plan on coming down again. Our next race your way will be Bristol and some NC racing this July, Darlington labor day weekend, or the Div2 finals in Jackson SC late Sept.

Hey Kenny:
Wow you had a big schedule of racing.
It was a very cool thing meeting you.
Saw that 4 Pure Stockers showed up.
Only won one round Saturday and red lighted on Sunday.
Not a great weekend but had a lot of fun met several ole Florida racers.

Took off for Kissimmee where my family was waiting for me.
Went to Universal Studios and then took for the long train trip home.

Getting ready for Richmond as we speak.

D

KennyAnderson 04-24-2014 05:55 PM

Re: No Fuel Check on Pure Stockers at Autometer Class Nation
 
Bet you had a great time at Universal! My fam loves that place. That and we are Disney diehards. Wish I could hit Richmond. Ran the 55 there 2 summers ago at the double Pro Am. Had a great time and made some new friends. Hit up MIR on another summer trip. Another great facility. Good luck and kick some booty!!


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