Performance Stock NMCA
 

Sealed crate motor stock class for2015. Finally an entry level class. 55 up chassis, DR525 sealed motor ,Heads up no break out .4 pro tree. Randy Wilson sounds good.Now NHRA has a guide to keep the beginning over guys in NHRA.

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Here are the rules:
http://www.nmcadigital.com/cat/rules...ock-prelim.pdf

Here are the specs and prices:
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/chev...evy-dr525.html

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Hardly news. Just a weak re-hash of Coyote stock that has been running for years already.

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True.

At least the GM guys will have a place to try out their crate motor deals now.

Since the NMCA and the NMRA run together now, the merge is coming, so it won't be long before the Coyote Stock winner will face off with the LS Stock winner in the final round to determine the event winner.

Naturally there will be a bunch of b*tching so there will have to be weight adjustments and such to attempt some sort of parity between the 2 groups.

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Merger.....ProMedia has done some interesting personnel moves in the past couple of years to indicate this is a done deal. While both the NMRA / NMCA guys might feel slighted, it might be best for that style racing....just look at Ford's involvement and sure to follow GM. They're a strong bunch, with some good personnel in place......as a contingency sponsor for both organizations I'm in favor.......lots of interesting cards to be played.........

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Maybe some would like a sealed cheap fun NHRA class to become a reality so a level cheap class could be a choice.

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When the Coyote Stock crate motor class was announced a few years ago, I priced out a new sealed crate 5.0 and then added up what it would take to build a competitive Coyote Stock car. (rolling chassis plus C-4 trans, special Coyote Fox headers, lightweight front suspension, etc.)

It was north of $ 22,000.

Instead of building the C/S car, I ended up buying a turn key Stocker for less than half that.

No regrets.

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And you still have to deal with Bogus HP combinations for a class trophy. When one SS/AH wins class none of the guys cry about HP. They all have the same opportunities to win class. A Crate motor is the same deal for 1/10 the money. Same bragging rights.... Same trophy... glad you have an inexpensive alternative...Bet the guy you bought it from spent a lot more than you did.

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I am quite sure he did.
For me it turned out great because the very first pass I made in the car at an NHRA event I went 1.4xx under the index and set the Q/SA record on the next pass that day.

Lucky for me I guess.

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Congratulations. You make a good point. If you look carefully you "might" find a real alternative to Building a car and cheaper too. My thought these are few and far between and if a guy wants to just start and not enjoy heads up racing a sealed motor car could be fun and cheap.

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they lost my attention at "automatics only"

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What do you think a car would have to run to be competitive in this class?

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Depends on how much they cheat !

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Wow, an optimist. How much do tech men allow regular class winners to cheat? With tech I think most would be aware of people out to cheat...

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More budget class. I haven't seen trans rule yet.... I would be happy if they limited it to PG only or TH 350...Fewer choices, less money chasing the magic .1. Drive it to win...

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Glass bumpers, hoods and deck lids. Plus mini tubs doesn’t sound much like stock to me.

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x2

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Sorry, but flat out racing is never " budget racing ..or "cheap".

Case in point:

Joe Beginner has a 72 Nova in his backyard he wants to race. He saves his pennies, buys himself a crate motor and all the goodies, a pair of Stocker radials, and builds himself a T200 with a TA valve body.

Richard Retired want to go racing again, so he buys himself a new Camaro, a couple of Pro-Transes with different ratios, two pairs of slick and wheels..one tall set, and one short set...Then he goes to the dealer and buys five crate motors..He dynos each one and puts the best one in , and keeps the second one for a spare.

Now ..who do you think will win most of the races?
Was it cheap or budget for him? I suppose it's all relative.

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Hard to beat the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ bullet ! ;)

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Wow.Hard to believe that Post.

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Explain to me how a pro trans and 3 converters ( remember, it's heads up gotta be able to adjust) is more economical than a g-force and a soft loc clutch? You could easily mandate the soft loc clutch but you can't easily outlaw a pro-trans

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The bottom line is the human emotion to compete. Some people will race to be part of racing and at a budget that they can be comfortable with. There is always going to be a few people who will go to the absolutely N'th degree to win. Does not matter if the prize is a gift certificate to McDonalds ---the bottom line they will spend whatever it takes to give them the edge. Nothing wrong with that except it takes away from the original intent of a budget class. It is a uncontrollable fact. There is an old saying about being a big fish in small pond rather than being a small fish in the ocean. lol

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"Cheater" Heads/Intake manifolds have been out and around since before 1985. It has only gotten more expensive and more sophisticated. NHRA allowed it to happen since day one. Why do you think they allowed the valve job changes? I fought it years ago and had a cpl of meetings with the sportsman contact in NHRA (Forgot his name for the moment) at the PRI shows to no avail. He couldn't get NHRA to go along with it. He no longer works for NHRA but has been on this forum a few times in the past. Over the years you now have what you have. There WILL BE WAYS the racers will learn to get around the rules. I guarantee it. I have some water front property for sale in Arazon if you think Im BS'ing.

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All true, Terry, but this is a factory sealed deal. I suppose someone would monkey with that too.
But, by and large ,I still say the ones with the money to burn will dominate.

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They have a NASCAR type truck class here in Fl. that use the ZZ-4 crate engine and a turbo 350. The chassis is about the same as the NASCAR guys trucks. They are "SUPPOSED" to be sealed and only freshened up by certain contracted engine builders. LOL I helped go thru 2 ZZ-4's for a local team and they just copied the factory seals. Its being done all the time. This was before I found out about the "SEALED" engine rule. Sounds like a certain CJ racer I knew in Md/Va area. Heh Heh Nothing is sacred or perfect.

P.S. I would love to see this deal work. It sounds good on paper.

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I had the same question. What do you guys think a legal LS car would have to run to be competitive? We'd have to change the 4L60E in our C5 (if that can even be done to a glide) but this class interests me. Pure Stock is too slow and after a COPO went 9.80 in B/SA at Indy there is no way we can compete with that.

Scott