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Mickey Whaley 09-21-2014 05:45 PM

Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Why did they change the index??? DROP IT 3 TENTHS what was the reason?

Dave Noll 09-21-2014 05:54 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
What ? Not again ?!?!

Mickey Whaley 09-21-2014 06:24 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 446972)
What ? Not again ?!?!

yes again dammit

Rat Raceway 09-21-2014 06:42 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Where are they showing this?

tj310 09-21-2014 07:32 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
New cars will be alright ---Trevor

SSGN 09-21-2014 08:03 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Where is it posted??

Mickey Whaley 09-21-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 446996)
Where is it posted??

at the scales

TinSoldier 3215 09-21-2014 08:41 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
when will this take place???

Rat Raceway 09-21-2014 08:52 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 447003)
at the scales

Did someone from NHRA tell you that?

Nothing on NHRAracer.com...

Mark Yacavone 09-21-2014 09:15 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Omg!

Mike Gray 09-21-2014 09:23 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Is it April 1st ?

Troy Pourciau 09-21-2014 09:41 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Mickey. you need some heads up runs. then it will get back to the hp that it should be. but now I see why.




Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
2707 Mickey Whaley
E2 0.055 10.816 115.77
C/SA Dial: 10.77 (+/-): 0.046

farmco r/sa 09-21-2014 09:50 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
surely that will help boost turn outs......:eek:

Myron Piatek 09-21-2014 10:07 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Maybe not April 1st, but I thought perhaps the "Silly Season" (off season rumors) had started early.

I can see NHRA's spin on it now....."See, now it only takes running .6 under to qualify for Indy instead of .9 under! :rolleyes:

I'm hoping to get an Aspen together to try NHRA and work my way further under as time and money permit. But this would make it that much more difficult for ANYONE trying to get started! :mad: Seems counter-productive, unless it's part of their "master plan".

It would be a good, but controversial, practical joke if someone made up a new index chart!

Mike Carr 09-21-2014 10:13 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Not that I believe it. But if they did knock another .3 off the indexes, it would make for more business for IHRA and local S/SS races.

Mickey Whaley 09-21-2014 10:13 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 447009)
Did someone from NHRA tell you that?

Nothing on NHRAracer.com...

no the first time

Mickey Whaley 09-21-2014 10:22 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy Pourciau (Post 447015)
Mickey. you need some heads up runs. then it will get back to the hp that it should be. but now I see why.




Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
2707 Mickey Whaley
E2 0.055 10.816 115.77
C/SA Dial: 10.77 (+/-): 0.046

yep I suck

hadtobethere 09-21-2014 10:38 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 446970)
Why did they change the index??? DROP IT 3 TENTHS what was the reason?

For the 'New' cars...they would be getting a 9.25% hit instead of 3.25%

astikhossw 09-21-2014 11:29 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
I think it was 2010??

Bill Grubbs 09-22-2014 09:12 AM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
I Think what Mickey is asking is:

Why did NHRA take .3 off the indexes in 2010?

Larry Hill 09-22-2014 09:22 AM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
You forgot the other part of the puzzle ; increasing the automatic hp. trigger to 1.20 under. This gave the same cars ( read 2008 and up cars ) a .500 of a second cushion.

Jim Bailey 09-22-2014 11:27 AM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Larry, The 2010 SRAC committee was given a Stock /SS proposal from Bruce B. He, Travis and a couple others had worked very hard to revamp AHFS. Along with the decrease of the indexes, it included the automatic hit at 1.0 sec under. Not all, but a few of the SRAC committee members lobbied for the 1.20 to protect the "older" soft Super Stock combos. They went as far as having some of the racers call, whine, and cry to their Division Representatives to plead their case. Obviously they were once again self serving and very short sited. It's been all down hill since then. The funny thing is most of the persons involved were Super Stock Racers. And they got their 1.20 auto hit passed. I wonder how they'd be feeling if all these "new cars" were SS only! The end result is the Racers got what they asked for! And it really was a slap in Bruce's face. And now we bitch? As Paul Harvey would say, " Now you know the rest of the story."

Bruce Noland 09-22-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
The tree tenths were removed to accommodate the new cars. The SRAC has very little power to influence any decisions made by nhra. Just window dressing to make it look like nhra gives a hoot. Bruce and the SRAC guys mean well but in the end corporate rules.

Tom Compton stood up at a meeting at Indy in 2011 and said he knew that nhra had not been treating the Sportsman racers very well - but that was all going to change. Apparently for the worse as nhra continues to play with the indexes and qualifying for the new cars; to the detriment of the older cars. Also, I have a question for Mr. Compton. Why has nhra been treating the Sportsman racers badly and why do they continue to do it? And it's not the pat answer that we lay down and take it. nhra has been rocked several times recently and yet they arrogantly motor along towards oblivion. Why for they do that?

Doug McCue 09-22-2014 12:43 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
So, what happens to those combos that have been factored to the point of not being able to run with the other cars in their classes? Using the AHFS is not an option since they listen poorly.

Mickey Whaley 09-22-2014 05:16 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug McCue (Post 447101)
So, what happens to those combos that have been factored to the point of not being able to run with the other cars in their classes? Using the AHFS is not an option since they listen poorly.

Put 3 tenths back give everybody their hp back except larrys cowboy truck and start over just joking larry , larry is a big fellow

partsbob67 09-22-2014 08:19 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
why don't they give the 3 tenths back and make the hit number at 1.50 under?

Sam Capizzi Jr 09-22-2014 09:09 PM

Re: Why did 3 tenths come off the index
 
My suggestions are

---to leave the indexes and the 1.20 automatic hit same but have the afhs review 4 times a year...

Or
---give the 3 tenths back with the current afhs and adjust the trigger points for reviews (1.50 automatic hit and 1.30 trigger for review)...

I have zero dogs in the new car vs old car fight (my car is slow in a slow class)but speeding up the afhs will definitely help level the playing field.... The afhs does work.. Just slow..


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