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Heading to the division awards banquet now. The forecast calls for rain all weekend. The proactive decision has been made to start at 2pm with 2 qualifying runs followed by eliminations. Motormainia tv is broadcasting this weekend. Watch Live by clicking the link on ihra.com or motomainiatv.com.

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They just started Im watching live. HR now stock to follow.

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Here comes SS......3:46pm

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First qual in SS

Jimmy went 9.80@135 (SS/FA?)
Tony Cowell 10.40@127 (GT/JA)
Jarrod Granier went 9.34@139 (SS/F)

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2nd session of qualified is halfway through. Qualifying is set by reaction times. Waiting for the call for SS.

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In SS?? Really?

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Yes all classes qualify on rt. No heads ups.

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what !!!!!

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2nd qual SS sorry only kept track of D4 cars

Jimmy 9.96@112
Tony 10.42@127
Jarrod 9.36@139

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Qualifying is almost complete. I think junior dragsters are the only qualifying run left. Get ready to tune in and watch the action on IHRA.com.

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Logged me off wont let me back on

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Weather has changed significantly right before first round started. Wind changed from cross tail to a very strong head to cross head. Temperatures dropped about 12 degrees very quickly. The following are heading to round 2:
-BJ Bianchi Vs. Brent Darroch
-Randy Eakins Vs. Jimmie Hutto
-Kevin Locklear Vs. Kevin Riner
-Ed Longhany Jr. Vs. Me

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No need to be fast. LOL

And they wonder why they draw no cars? Just keeps getting worse. smh

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I kinda understand why they qualify on reaction time because they are trying to eliminate playing the ladder. I guess this way it would be difficult for say buddies or say someone in the same division to try and stack the ladder but no heads up? Don't understand that one.

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The call for no heads up, and qualify on reaction time is due to the championship - earn your invite only - format.
This keeps someone from borrowing or buying a fast car, and especially trying to headhunt someone else, with a borrowed car for ONE race. This was a problem a few years ago.
Keeps the championship on the driver ability...
Know stock and SS usually have heads up and it is a key part of it, but I understand why they do this also.

Kind of like letting FS cars qualify with no worry of HP???

Congrats to all there. Good luck and enjoy the race!

Ken
Stock 412

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I was at one of their div races in Texas a few years ago when they announced "no heads ups". I decided I was through with them that day.

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The reason is as Ken said. It's not new, been this way since 2009.

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What Ken said. ^ It just creates problems for the TOC format.

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Track drying has been under way for almost two hours. It is cloudy and cool, but it has not been raining. I would think we should be starting within the next hour.

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Ed they run heads up races at normal points meets just not the TOC?

Also, drivers got upset one year at Memphis I believe in 2012 when they had to draw cards for pairing for some reason(rain out or something) and Ihra said it would have heads up and the drivers threw a fit about it.

Can't please everyone.

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Regular points race, in Texas, they announced no heads up races. Therefore no need to worry about the scales either. Heck, just call it a bracket race. That was my last IHRA race.

Who would complain about having heads up races? No real racer. That is the normal way Super Stock is run.

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It has happened a few times where due to certain circumstances that there were no heads up runs, scales not working,etc but I do believe I recall this happening at a couple NHRA races also, maybe somebody got tangled up down there. I can understand where IHRA would do it this way in this particular format, some people don't like it but until they can come up with somewhat of a national points format this is the only way they can do it.
IHRA is a long way from being NHRA but it works for alot of people, personally I would love to be in the position to run alot of NHRA races but trying to run a business not to mention having 2 small children at home is not conducive for me to leave home on Wednesday or Thursday to go racing. I just dont understand why people just want to sit around and bash it all the time though, if you dont like something then fine dont go anymore but dont sit back and act like everyone else is second class that does enjoy or race with them.

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Ed I Agree with everything you said. No heads up tells me no one wants to work on their cars and actually have a race. I wish it would go back to the way it was back in the 1970's. No reaction time and they ran off the records. You had to win class just to get in the eliminations. Imagine that, a real race.

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Yep! The records were hard enough, that not everybody could run the record all the time. Some never could. I won a couple of divisional races running a tenth off the record, still the fastest car there that day. Jack Mullins' Pontiac wagon was the first one I can remember being able to usually run under.
Bad thing was, when bracket racing came along the guys that didn't want to work hard to get faster just went bracket racing. We ended up with very low car counts. Guess not everybody is wired to race that hard.

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Ed is obviously missing the point of why IHRA does not have heads up in their championship event. Way to highjack this thread with your personal vendetta. You always have a million reasons why you don't want to race and think of your opinions as gold. I don't know who you think you are to go around saying who is a "real racer" and who is not.

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Mr. Wright,
I understand your view point on heads up racing. However, the IHRA is providing the real "driver" sportsman their chance to demonstrate their ability to react and drive the finish line. I have nothing against you, but am frustrated with your attitude against the IHRA. I'm in the military deployed overseas and love the opportunities the IHRA provides to it's racers. I will be back in the US in FEB 15. I'm willing to haul my IHRA crate motor stocker to your track of chioce to demonstrate the capability/commitment of an IHRA racer west of the Mississippi. I'm stationed in California. We can discuss the value of the race outside social media.

v/r
Mike Johnson

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Why not do this? Make every run in eliminations heads up. When all the class run offs are done then make the winners race each other. Furthest under the index wins. Then all you dinosaurs with your old cars and attitudes can be on the trailer barbecuing after 1st rd watching the same cars win every week. The new ones. But at least you won't lose your precious heads ups. You probably hate bracket racing because you can't handle people who can cut lights seven rds in a row and drive the finish line. Really makes sense to have a 30-150,000 car that you can only run 5-10 times a year

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To say that someone is not a real racer because they didn't start racing w a flagman or they don't have to work on their cars 7 days a week including at the track is crazy. Running for some good money in Baton Rouge next weekend. Drag your stuff out there ed and let's see how many rds you go. I will say this though. To each his own. Gene Schmaltz Jr.

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This from a guy who hides behind his keyboard, attacks people for their opinions and then refuses to put a name to his comments... Classic

Ed is completely right here. IHRA is a Bracket race. And that’s fine. They put on a good multi-class bracket race. But they have zero clue what stock and super stock is. From the head of tech to the dude working the scales. They don't have a clue why we have these rules. The S/SS car counts vs the other classes prove that. I can bring my Stocker to a local bracket race, and if I happen to win, call myself the S/SS combo winner, but everyone knows I just won a bracket race. That is exactly what’s going on here. It’s a Bracket 1 and 2 world championship, and that’s quite an accomplishment. But its not Stock or Super Stock. Playing the Ladder is a skill of a S/SS racer. Heads up runs is the main thing that separates us from bracket racing. You take those away and you have a Bracket race.

I was a heavy player in IHRA just a short time ago, but they lost me when these 3 things happened in 1 weekend a couple years ago. I'd rather go to a bracket race where there is more return vs entry if I win. In fact, you would be better off entering you stocker in the et bracket class at these IHRA events, Its half the entry for the same payout

#1 The official running the scales tells me not to worry about weight because we qualify on reaction time. Can somebody please tell him why he's out there if that’s the case

#2 A good friend went up for first round and ran a car dialed 2 tenths over the index. My buddy tries to tell the starter but they just send him down. My buddy loses. He goes up to the tower to point out the rule and the Director tells him it’s up to the guy who dialed above his index to make the decision for a rerun. In case you guys don't know, you can’t change your dial on a rerun either, so how does that fix anything? The other guy should have lost, You cannot dial over the index, but when the Director has no idea, that’s what you get. My buddy packed his stuff up, and so did I

#3 I went to the Tower to inform them that 3 cars were claiming the wrong HP because they got HP 1 month previous. Turns out, The Director couldn't do anything because the Head of Tech decided to put 2001 Camaro as the one who got HP in the book (which is a joke if you ever looked at it). These other racers were able to slide that and claim 99, 00 or 02 model year or they had a firebird. So they gained bye runs because the head of tech doesn't have a clue.

Like I said, Head of Tech to the dude working the scales. NO CLUE why we have these rules. But they put on a Good bracket race. Just turns out I'm not a bracket racer and I enjoy the rules, so I've never been back and won't go until they start grasping the concept. Its not just the finals thats run as a Bracket race. It's the whole season.

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BTW, did they run this thing last night? Who won?

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its on live stream right now. Mark & Joanne do a great job this year covering these races MMTV is great coverage for sure
http://new.livestream.com/motormaniatv2

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Hagen I believe it was a wash didn't quite finish 1st round. Everyone knows IHRA is second fiddle like you said nothing much more than a bracket race the problem I have is with people who continue to bash it even though they are through with it, I don't care what he thinks of IHRA and I'm tired of hearing it but to imply someone is not a real racer is unjustified.

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Treekiller what a great Idea sign me up in my old truck!

How does that go, be careful what you wish for?

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Ed probably ment to say no "S/SS" Racer would complain about heads up. Thats what he ment by "Real". You got to give these old guys a break on this social media. I'm 100% sure he didn't mean that bracket racers arn't real racers. There is no doubt IHRA does a good job at putting on a Bracket race. If thats what you are into, Its all for you. It's just not for most of the NHRA S/SS racers. Ed is just simply saying what I am. This is not really Stock or Super Stock racing in its true form. I'm gonna tune in and watch it live anyway because I'm still interested in who wins.

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Wow, you bring so much to every conversation. Thanks for joining us. :rolleyes:

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It is what it is, I will run both sanctions and most definitely would run more NHRA but it is hard to take that much time away from home for me. The only IHRA race I've been to that didn't have heads up was the TOC and the short lived Sportsman Spectacular races.
I'm all about class racing in its truest form but I still can understand the theory of not having heads up runs in the TOC the way the format is set. If you were someone like Cooter Hidalgo and dominated the whole year and someone showed up with a borrowed car at the TOC and was all the sudden 2 tenths faster how would that be fair to him. Just my opinion.

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Easy fix for someone like him who is a good S/SS racer. Don't tech in till that dude does. Then don't get in his class. It's the exact same thing anyone would do at a regular race. Dodge the fast guy. That's part of S/SS. Either get out of his class, or play the ladder to avoid.

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I am not bashing IHRA but, stk /sis is a heads up eliminator....PERIOD. One way for IHRA to fix this nonsense, The car you earned your points in is the car you bring to Memphis....Period !!!!If you earned your points in two different cars ,you can bring either car.Very Simple. Hagen Gary ,I like your attitude.Ed, you are definately old school...but what is wrong with that. .Jeremy,aka Another Friendly Racer...you need to stop pissing people off....LOL!!! Regards...M.J.

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Very well said, MJ!

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I'll x2 that.