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Michael Beard 11-21-2014 05:00 PM
Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
IHRA announces return to sportsman national event drag racing with incresed payout, prestige at NJDRS events
http://www.ihra.com/ihra-news/compet...l-njdrs-events

Short version: Back to the old weekend schedule, and "competitors in Super Stock, Stock, Quick Rod, Super Rod and Hot Rod will receive $1,500 for an event win with $900 for runner-up. All classes will receive $150 starting with a second round win with $50 increases for each remaining round won." Hit the link above for the full article.

After a year away from running any IHRA, I'm glad to see some positive moves and a better schedule for 2015. The MotorManiaTV live video coverage that Summit sponsors at every event is a big plus, too, if they keep up with that. Looking forward to doing some more racing again.

Jim Bailey 11-21-2014 05:02 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
N I C E ... about time !

Ed Carpenter 11-21-2014 05:16 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Their still going to have proams correct?

Myron Piatek 11-21-2014 06:14 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 453493)
Their still going to have proams correct?
So far my understanding is that the Nitro Jam events will count as a single ProAm claim in addition to the rest of the ProAm schedule. The purse and contingency increase may be incentive because of the one race Nitro Jam vs a ProAm double-header. The TOC qualifying appears to remain the same with top 3 in each division making it to the "big show".

Nitro Joe Jackson 11-21-2014 06:46 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
I didn't know I was sponsoring events, (I had the NJDRS abbreviation long before them) Nitro Joe's Drag Racing Stats
IHRA announces return to sportsman national event drag racing with increased payout, prestige at NJDRS events
lol

Michael Beard 11-21-2014 08:04 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 453493)
Their still going to have proams correct?
Of course. Schedule should be out shortly.

tpoh815 11-22-2014 02:10 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Kudos to IHRA.

C and W Racing 11-22-2014 07:50 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
It's good to see an increase, but let's be honest. It's still a joke. We all bitch about the payouts from NHRA yet it's twice what IHRA pays out starting with 2nd round winners and goes up 100 per round verses 50. None of them pay worth a crap. Costs go up and payouts are a joke.
Chuck

Myron Piatek 11-22-2014 08:27 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Racing with IHRA is less expensive than NHRA and they are trying to be a competitive option. But they need the support to be able to pay more. They could have stayed with the old purse. When is the last time NHRA raised their payouts?

IHRA went out on a limb for several years with the Sportsman Spectaculars that paid $5,000 to win! That's a heck of a lot more than what NHRA pays. But not enough racers showed up and they got burned bad! No more Sportsman Spectaculars and it's the racer's fault for not showing up. IHRA appreciates sportsman racers more than NHRA. Racers need to show their appreciation in return, especially if they want bigger purses.

HR9121 11-22-2014 09:00 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
I agree with Myron 100%, IHRA took it on the chin several races with the Sportsman Spectacular so them stepping up with these increases is a bit of a surprise to me. I agree Chuck that its long overdue but without support there is not much more they can do. This is not a "build it and they will come" economic environment where they can afford lots of losses hoping the masses will come eventually so I hope racers will see this as a good faith offering.

Michael Beard 11-23-2014 11:40 AM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
You cannot compare payouts without comparing entry fees, amount of track time, travel, and amount of time off work.

Myron is dead-on about the Sportsman Spectacular events. $5K to win guaranteed, and racers failed to support them, so they went away. We had a great format race with the Combo in the Hills, and later the NitroPlate S/SS Shootout at Numidia, and people failed to support them, so now they're gone. At least people will have another opportunity to support and fun and rewarding event, with the Class Nationals next summer. If it's supported well enough, there's a chance that the program can expand. But it takes *you*.

We promote a number of big money bracket races. Racers have continued to show more and more support for what we're doing, and they have been rewarded with more events, more event coverage, and frequent purse increases. Success begets success.

Be part of the solution.

If you think NHRA should improve things in their programs, coverage, or payouts, the best way to force them to do so is with competition. I didn't run any IHRA events last year, as I couldn't fit them into my schedule. With improvements in many areas of what they're doing, I'm looking forward to supporting them again in 2015, and being part of the solution.

ChevyII 11-23-2014 12:32 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Michael, well stated!

The more we read your print and watch you in action with your successful events, the more I admire your character.

Well done, Mike!

Mike

cal 11-24-2014 12:20 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Hello All
So If I read this correctly, Division 1 will have a double at Richmond Dragway, a single at Maryland International Raceway. and be forced to go to Pittsburg for 1 race just to get 4 in division races. I think Pittsburg is also a Nitro Jam.

Hum this kinda Suck if it is correct.

Cal
HR S/ST 1177

Mike Pearson 11-24-2014 01:24 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 453599)
I agree with Myron 100%, IHRA took it on the chin several races with the Sportsman Spectacular so them stepping up with these increases is a bit of a surprise to me. I agree Chuck that its long overdue but without support there is not much more they can do. This is not a "build it and they will come" economic environment where they can afford lots of losses hoping the masses will come eventually so I hope racers will see this as a good faith offering.
This is a step in the right direction fro IHRA. They will have to follow through with this program and make the investment to improve car counts. The increase in purse is the first step. They (IHRA) have to attract sponsors and contingency to make the program really work and attract the car counts. The sanctioning body along with the track operators are the promoters. The investment has to be made by all parties involved. one of the big things that has to happen is getting some butts in the stands. That means you have to entice some people that would not normally be coming to your event. Better to have a lot of spectators there for an inexpensive gate charge than empty stands with a big gate charge. You have to build the system back up from the bottom. You have to have a solid foundation. That's what needs to be built now. Just because the first few races don't have a huge car count they need to stay the course and keep improving with each event. I will be running all of the IHRA events that are with in my traveling range this year.

HR9121 11-24-2014 01:29 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cal (Post 453757)
Hello All
So If I read this correctly, Division 1 will have a double at Richmond Dragway, a single at Maryland International Raceway. and be forced to go to Pittsburg for 1 race just to get 4 in division races. I think Pittsburg is also a Nitro Jam.

Hum this kinda Suck if it is correct.

Cal
HR S/ST 1177
Cal you guys are spoiled lol, come race division 9 where they are all singles with the exception of a few in the last couple of years and they were done because of make up races

HR9121 11-24-2014 01:34 PM
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I agree totally Mike I just hope they start getting more support in traditionally low car count areas like division 4. $1500 to win with about 8 SS cars would be a good deal for someone at San Antonio.

Ven302 11-24-2014 01:45 PM
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Considering the economic times and all the excuses we have been given for reducing payouts, increasing entry fees etc etc. The IHRA group at least deserves a pat on the back ( and consideration) for realizing they were going the wrong way and doing something about it. I know I will consider them when making travel plans. I went to the race in Grand Bend last year and had a great time, won nothing but did enjoy the effort put forth by both the track and IHRA. Both did a spectacular job! This is just one more positive with the new ownership and I will probably try to get to a couple of their races just to show support.

This is nothing but good news.

ChevyII 11-24-2014 06:07 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Venice, hear hear..

Raising the payouts is great for the sport because as long as I can remember the "N" payouts have remained the same for ever.

Mike

Ed Carpenter 11-24-2014 06:39 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
I don't know why tracks don't give away tickets. Have them at all the parts stores etc. Then when the people come they all have to eat,drink etc. They will buy shirts etc. Look at it this way you can't lose they weren't going to come anyway. Most of the divisionals I've went to since 2006 there is NO ONE in the stands unless you count the stockers guys watching SS. Just a thought.......

Mike Jones 11-24-2014 07:05 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 453787)
I don't know why tracks don't give away tickets. Have them at all the parts stores etc. Then when the people come they all have to eat,drink etc. They will buy shirts etc. Look at it this way you can't lose they weren't going to come anyway. Most of the divisionals I've went to since 2006 there is NO ONE in the stands unless you count the stockers guys watching SS. Just a thought.......


Ed,
Poor attendance at D1 LODRS as well...
Does any Division see good numbers at these events?


Mike A114 P/SA

Dave Turner 11-24-2014 09:44 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newine (Post 453789)
Ed,
Poor attendance at D1 LODRS as well...
Does any Division see good numbers at these events?


Mike A114 P/SA
Norwalk comes to mind.

John Nechiporchik 11-25-2014 11:43 AM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
I am pleased the IHRA has stepped up their purse structure AND re-instated the Sportsman categories to their "National " events. This action indicates an organization with leadership that is not afraid to tap into past successes and marry those with a go forward strategy to create a model that fits the present economic and demographic make-up of racers and spectators.
It was not long ago that the IHRA National events at Milan, Martin, Grand Bend( probably others) had crowds five deep at the fences to watch the Fuelers and Pro Stock qualifying and racing action. The stands were packed and the pits were chaotic....but awesome! The Stock/ Super Stock fields were healthy. Hopefully, we can move towards that excitement level again.
We were all waiting to see what the new team at IHRA had planned. Now we are getting a look at their thinking and it appears to be in the right direction for drag racing as a whole.
As indicated in some other posts, it is incumbent on the racers to come to the table and support these efforts by attending these races. If we don't, we'll be cranking out posts on various websites complaining about how IHRA failed.
Personally, I have raced in IHRA divisionals, nationals and NHRA divisionals only. I like racing in both organizations and will prepare my 2015 schedule to participate in both where practical.
I wish IHRA great success as they take positive steps to move forward.
As this week is Thanksgiving, I say thanks for being able to race and make the choices we desire.
Happy Thanksgiving to all on the Class Racer forum.

John

Jim Kaekel 11-25-2014 12:44 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Nechiporchik (Post 453855)
I am pleased the IHRA has stepped up their purse structure AND re-instated the Sportsman categories to their "National " events. This action indicates an organization with leadership that is not afraid to tap into past successes and marry those with a go forward strategy to create a model that fits the present economic and demographic make-up of racers and spectators.
It was not long ago that the IHRA National events at Milan, Martin, Grand Bend( probably others) had crowds five deep at the fences to watch the Fuelers and Pro Stock qualifying and racing action. The stands were packed and the pits were chaotic....but awesome! The Stock/ Super Stock fields were healthy. Hopefully, we can move towards that excitement level again.
We were all waiting to see what the new team at IHRA had planned. Now we are getting a look at their thinking and it appears to be in the right direction for drag racing as a whole.
As indicated in some other posts, it is incumbent on the racers to come to the table and support these efforts by attending these races. If we don't, we'll be cranking out posts on various websites complaining about how IHRA failed.
Personally, I have raced in IHRA divisionals, nationals and NHRA divisionals only. I like racing in both organizations and will prepare my 2015 schedule to participate in both where practical.
I wish IHRA great success as they take positive steps to move forward.
As this week is Thanksgiving, I say thanks for being able to race and make the choices we desire.
Happy Thanksgiving to all on the Class Racer forum.

John
X2...Very well said

GarysZ24 11-25-2014 11:40 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
My only part to be sad about, is the apparent fact that there'll be no IHRA D7 Pro-Am series next year to support in my schedule, again. I remember griping here about how poor the San Antonio Summit Sportsman Spectacular attendance was, inspite of my traveling over 900 miles to attend (and my budget pales BIG TIME compareds to all of the others who showed up there)! I'm glad I did, and had a great time there, but now will only have the NHRA option again for 2015. Something's always better than nothing, but it would be nice to have an option....

Mike Graham 11-26-2014 12:58 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Gary. Do you know something about Tucson that is not posted? The way I read it is that Tucson is running Stock and SS. Considering going there instead of Pomona because we can run both cars.

Michael Beard 11-26-2014 05:28 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
IHRA Summit PRO-AM Schedule is out...

http://www.ihra.com/pro-am-tour-news...-tour-schedule

Myron Piatek 11-26-2014 05:55 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Hmmm. Anybody know what happened to Darlington, SC in Div. 2?
It looks like Div. 2 racers will have to travel to 2 out of division races to get their max of 8.

Ed Carpenter 11-26-2014 06:03 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Between Nhra and Ihra D4 has 7 races over an 8 week period. That's just awesome not.....

Ed Wright 11-26-2014 06:28 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by deuces wild (Post 453985)
Between Nhra and Ihra D4 has 7 races over an 8 week period. That's just awesome not.....
Is if your selling fuel. If I bought more diesel than last year, Jeanie would move me out.

Rich67stang 11-26-2014 07:07 PM
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The IHRA/NHRA schedule for DIV1 is great, with no conflicts (for me anyway) and spread throughout the year with a lot of options. Glad I have 2 motors for next season. We are spoiled here in the northeast.

Keith 944 11-26-2014 07:37 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
I am a bit confused, the div 1 schedule says MIR as a national but div.9 can claim it as a in div. points race. will div 1 be able to claim it as well? and if so, as an in div or out?

Jim Wahl 11-26-2014 07:45 PM
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Nobody is going to go to West Palm for a one race national event as opposed to a two race event at Darlington. Stupid decision. All they have done is make it tougher for the D2 racers. Jim

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Michael Beard 11-26-2014 08:01 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 453982)
Hmmm. Anybody know what happened to Darlington, SC in Div. 2?
The facility has gone downhill there. A shame.

Quote:
It looks like Div. 2 racers will have to travel to 2 out of division races to get their max of 8.
That is the case with every division except for Div. 3, but we'd have to travel quite a bit to get 8 "In" as most of the races are singles.

Quote:
I am a bit confused, the div 1 schedule says MIR as a national but div.9 can claim it as a in div. points race. will div 1 be able to claim it as well? and if so, as an in div or out?
There are several events that serve as a wild card which can be claimed as an In-Division claim for two different divisions.

MIR 1 & 9
Carolina 2 & 9
Pittsburgh 1 & 3

Quote:
Nobody is going to go to West Palm for a one race national event as opposed to a two race event at Darlington. Stupid decision.
Palm Beach and Darlington were never on the same date, so there is no basis for comparison. Darlington was dropped on its own merits (or lack thereof). Again, I like the place, but it's sorely in need of a lot of attention. And for the record, when I lived in NC, I attended one-race national events at Palm Beach more than once.



After attending 0 IHRA events in 2014, I'm looking forward to next season... so far I have 6 LODRS, 4 NHRA Nat'l, 5 Pro-Ams, 4 IHRA Nat'ls, 8+ big money races, 3 expos/trade shows, and 5 Loose Rocker events on my calendar... with a couple of holes to fill yet!

I'd let my membership lapse in October. I'm going to sign back up now.

$.02,

-MB

TGould 11-26-2014 08:46 PM
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Bad news for me was the loss of the Darlington race and Rockingham. Great news for me is quarter mile racing returns to Rockingham (NHRA).

GarysZ24 11-26-2014 10:50 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Graham (Post 453948)
Gary. Do you know something about Tucson that is not posted? The way I read it is that Tucson is running Stock and SS. Considering going there instead of Pomona because we can run both cars.
Mike, the good news is that SIR will be running Stock and Super Stock as their own categories at their Nitro Jam Race. However, the bad news is IHRA's D7 "Gunslinger" division (thanks for the website to see their 2015 Schedule, Michael Beard), is not a part of the Pro-Am series (comparable to NHRA's Lucas Oil Drag Race Series), so if you run that race you may have to claim points (if any will be offered), to D4 and run other races in that division. I'm instead (since that's not financially feasible for me), hoping to race Pomona, and then run the NHRA D7 points (their schedule and locations are the best they've ever been since I moved here). If I don't get to race Pomona, no skin off my nose....I'll run the divisionals, likely the Fontana Sports Nat's, and possibly another national event. Good Luck in Tucson if you two go there, and HAPPY THANKSGIVING also! :)

dragracer2011 11-27-2014 10:46 AM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
IMO ( which probably isn't worth much), I say kudos to the IHRA for stepping up their program and trying to help out us sportsman racers, what I don't understand is this...... Everyone has a right to choose what and where they want to race, if you don't like something in their programs or just prefer a certain sanctioning body, big money bracket racing etc., then just go race where it makes you happy, why all the negativity? why must people get on these message forums and bash people and companies that are trying to support our sport, why complain when the schedule don't fit your schedule exactly how you wanted it to. The schedules are posted, pick where you want to race and lets go support those events, It doesn't matter what they do, they would never get 100% of us racers to agree on anything, so with that in mind, Happy Holidays to everyone and good luck in 2015!

Jim Woods 11-27-2014 01:45 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
x2

Dana Fitzpatrick 11-27-2014 01:56 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Nechiporchik (Post 453855)
I am pleased the IHRA has stepped up their purse structure AND re-instated the Sportsman categories to their "National " events. This action indicates an organization with leadership that is not afraid to tap into past successes and marry those with a go forward strategy to create a model that fits the present economic and demographic make-up of racers and spectators.
It was not long ago that the IHRA National events at Milan, Martin, Grand Bend( probably others) had crowds five deep at the fences to watch the Fuelers and Pro Stock qualifying and racing action. The stands were packed and the pits were chaotic....but awesome! The Stock/ Super Stock fields were healthy. Hopefully, we can move towards that excitement level again.
We were all waiting to see what the new team at IHRA had planned. Now we are getting a look at their thinking and it appears to be in the right direction for drag racing as a whole.
As indicated in some other posts, it is incumbent on the racers to come to the table and support these efforts by attending these races. If we don't, we'll be cranking out posts on various websites complaining about how IHRA failed.
Personally, I have raced in IHRA divisionals, nationals and NHRA divisionals only. I like racing in both organizations and will prepare my 2015 schedule to participate in both where practical.
I wish IHRA great success as they take positive steps to move forward.
As this week is Thanksgiving, I say thanks for being able to race and make the choices we desire.
Happy Thanksgiving to all on the Class Racer forum.

John
AND Top Stock!!

Mike Keener 11-27-2014 02:17 PM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Top Stock especially Dana. Nice catch there!!

Lyn Smith 11-28-2014 09:56 AM
Re: Big sportsman payout increase at IHRA National Events
 
Did the payouts go up at the pro ams also?


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