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ss3011 01-07-2015 06:58 PM

Balancing Racing Slicks
 
Why do most rear slicks get bubble balanced ? Is there a problem spin balancing slicks ?

supergas4 01-07-2015 07:32 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
think about it.soft sidewall

Ed Wright 01-07-2015 08:54 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
A friend spin balances mine. Quicker & cheaper to bubble balance at the track.

countrypuppy4865 01-07-2015 10:42 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
I spin balance never noticed any issues on track with vibration. Always did radials maybe bias tires have issues?

ss3011 01-08-2015 12:35 AM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
Anyone know how fast a spin balancer spins? I thought about 500 rpm, sounds about right. That would keep a normal street tire (26" diameter) under 60 mph. At 60 mph , even a bias ply drag slick would not grow much.

Ed Wright 01-08-2015 08:24 AM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
You will still find an imbalance you won't find with a bubble balancer. Split your weicght too needs four ounces? Put two front side, two back side.

Paul Precht 01-08-2015 10:34 AM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 457819)
You will still find an imbalance you won't find with a bubble balancer. Split your weicght too needs four ounces? Put two front side, two back side.

That's the way I learned back in the early 70s. I use 4 weights, 2 on each side, bringing them closer or further apart as needed. I still use my old Coats 10/10 and bubble ballance for slicks and trailer tires.

fordteacherguy 01-08-2015 08:51 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
There is a lot more than balance to fix shakes in tires. Technology has come a long way in tire balancing and rim/tire run out matching. Here is a video from Hunter engineering demonstrating their Road Force Balancer. Note ...this is old technology...we have been road forcing tires for over 10 years to fix non-balance tire shake. I road force all of my slicks and have to re-index most at least once due to their concentricity is not near what a OEM tire has and drag slicks undergo side wall damage from launching that can show up in a road force test but not be a balance issue.

Enjoy! Learn something new!

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...9C2AC5FD52B319

Don Anderson 01-08-2015 11:09 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
Thanks for sharing this video Brian !!








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CMcAllister 01-09-2015 01:56 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
Not all spin balancers are high speed. I have used a Snap-On branded machine with good results. Not sure who actually makes it. I've also used the old Snap-On machine that you spun up by hand with good results. I remember seeing that little machine sitting around in a lot of pro pits years ago.

tj310 01-09-2015 02:20 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
If you reindex a tire and it makes a difference you have a bad rim IMHO ---Trevor

fordteacherguy 01-11-2015 10:20 PM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tj310 (Post 457954)
If you reindex a tire and it makes a difference you have a bad rim IMHO ---Trevor

There are few tires produced that have 0 run-out when they remove them from the casting molds and fewer rims as well. The problems become one of tolerance stack up...two component individually "in spec" that are assembled with individual tolerances aligned may be out of spec as a combined assembly. Todays balancers measure total rim run-out and tire run-out individually and indicate where you can match the assembly for the least run-out ..thereby running smoother and needing less weight to balance.

I was at automotive factory training and told that OEM wheels are intentionally made slightly out of round on purpose to allow tire indexing corrections for overall less total run-out than with a perfectly round rim.

ATI Performance Products 01-12-2015 11:57 AM

Re: Balancing Racing Slicks
 
We spin balance ours, but we also run a radial tire on both cars. Some tires take a couple ounces on the Rear but we had to put 5 oz them before as well. No issues with vibration otherwise. We did run a Bias ply at one point this year and it did't vibrate at all. At 160 it did grow a little bit more than 5" though.


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