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Dragsinger 01-20-2015 10:04 PM

SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
I will soon need a timing system for the Super 10. I will consider a belt drive but am leaning toward a chain.

What to y'all like?

Tom Meyer 01-20-2015 10:39 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Belt all the way. Easy to do the cam timing, gets rid of harmonics in the valve train and they look cool. Tom

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 01-20-2015 11:09 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Jesel belt drive.

Alan Roehrich 01-20-2015 11:14 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Jesel belt.

Ed Wright 01-20-2015 11:28 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
I agree, Jesel belt. If you can't afford that, think about a Rollmaster. Billet gears, needle thrust bearing behind the cam gear. IMHO, nicer than Cloyes. Scoggin Dickey sells them. If you can swing it, get a Jesel belt.

Dwight Southerland 01-21-2015 08:56 AM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Belt is cleaner, looks cool. But CTPO, no power advantage. I have been involved in fourteen different A-B-A tests with Jesel belt vs quality chain and gear and the results I have seen point to the chain making a hair's width more power. Also, no difference in harmonics as measured electronically for vibration and or sonic changes.


Ed's suggestion for the Rollmaster is good. They also manufacture a chain set that allows for timing changes without removing gears.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e2...psf7709ad4.jpg

Dragsinger 01-21-2015 10:23 AM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Thanks to all for the feedback.

And speaking of the Roll Master products I have run several sets of those with excellent results.

For my situation I think it is a good choice.

Mike Taylor 3601 01-21-2015 10:28 AM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
I use Cloyes because I can always get a replacement chain later,haven't had that good of luck getting replacement chains with others,seemed like everytime I needed one they had changed to different chain.
I like the hex-adjust they also have the other one can't think of name where outside of gear moves like the rollmaster pictured.

I like Jesel belt,really good to dyno and test cam timing in the car and cam swaps, I had A-B tested a few with no gain I could see,wasn't sure if what I was testing on was to mild to have enough harmonics to make a difference.
Mike Taylor 3601

Signman 01-21-2015 10:38 AM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 459221)
Belt is cleaner, looks cool. But CTPO, no power advantage. I have been involved in fourteen different A-B-A tests with Jesel belt vs quality chain and gear and the results I have seen point to the chain making a hair's width more power. Also, no difference in harmonics as measured electronically for vibration and or sonic changes.


Ed's suggestion for the Rollmaster is good. They also manufacture a chain set that allows for timing changes without removing gears.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e2...psf7709ad4.jpg

Dwight
Have been looking at this type of timing set for a while and connot verify if this or another part number is compatable with step nose cam.

Ed Wright 01-21-2015 11:48 AM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Signman (Post 459231)
Dwight
Have been looking at this type of timing set for a while and connot verify if this or another part number is compatable with step nose cam.

I ran them on factory roller blocks with the step on the nose of the cam. Just call the performance counter at Scoggin Dickey parts. They are located in Lubock, TX. Great guys to deal with. I don't have their number in my phone, but you can google them.
They had them in stock whenever I needed them. I saw zero gain when I bought my Jesel either. Saw nothing other than not having to pull the dampener, timing cover or water pump to move the cam.

Dwight Southerland 01-21-2015 12:27 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 459246)
Saw nothing other than not having to pull the dampener, timing cover or water pump to move the cam.

Sometimes the "hassle factor" is dominant.

Ed Wright 01-21-2015 12:49 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 459250)
Sometimes the "hassle factor" is dominant.

Is if your old & arthritic.

Mark Yacavone 01-21-2015 01:52 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Looking at SBC sets in Competition Products catalog.
Most are .250 pin rollers.
It used to be people wouldn't use rollers because they would break.
Urban legend?
Does anyone use regular split link chains anymore?

Ed Wright 01-21-2015 03:43 PM

Re: SBC Super 10 timing chain
 
Mark, I drove my 8000 RPM 383" LT1, solid roller, lots of spring on the street for a couple of years before I made an SS car out of it with zero problems. Then ran the same Rollmaster chain set up in my first SS engine for two seasons. never one issue. Put them in a lot of drag/lake boats also.


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