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cicero819 03-11-2015 06:42 PM

NHRA what is wrong with you?
 
I have a question for NHRA. Who is in charge of creativity at NHRA. I just finish watching on of the early Pinks all out from Virginia and couldn't help notice the incredible fun the racers and fans(a lot of them) were having. Don't tell me that we couldn't come up with something as competitive as an Arm Drop? Now with the controversy with Street Racer(Dumb Dumber). NHRA should be on top of this with some intelligent programming towards Racers, Fan and would be participants. Competition Eliminator, Stock &Super Stock has all the Diva's, premadonnas,we have Cooters, Swampers, Wife and Husbands of the South,North,East $West, also Low Rollers and High Rollers, people who can talk from under the car and over the car, We even have nudity, RV's and animal lovers(should give us some PETA love). Forget the pro's you're loosing a fortune paying ESPN 3 for broadcasting that garbage. Promote the little guy, bracket racing(cars only, no tubes) would be an improvement over the pro crap. Come on NHRA get with the program! Claude Ruel

Rose Racing 03-11-2015 07:56 PM

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I agree

Troy Pourciau 03-11-2015 10:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cicero819 (Post 464537)
I have a question for NHRA. Who is in charge of creativity at NHRA. I just finish watching on of the early Pinks all out from Virginia and couldn't help notice the incredible fun the racers and fans(a lot of them) were having. Don't tell me that we couldn't come up with something as competitive as an Arm Drop? Now with the controversy with Street Racer(Dumb Dumber). NHRA should be on top of this with some intelligent programming towards Racers, Fan and would be participants. Competition Eliminator, Stock &Super Stock has all the Diva's, premadonnas,we have Cooters, Swampers, Wife and Husbands of the South,North,East $West, also Low Rollers and High Rollers, people who can talk from under the car and over the car, We even have nudity, RV's and animal lovers(should give us some PETA love). Forget the pro's you're loosing a fortune paying ESPN 3 for broadcasting that garbage. Promote the little guy, bracket racing(cars only, no tubes) would be an improvement over the pro crap. Come on NHRA get with the program! Claude Ruel

EXCELLENT idea Cicero

Ed Wright 03-11-2015 10:38 PM

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Both people that sit in the stands to watch us run at national events would probably watch that show. LOL

John Kelley 03-11-2015 11:37 PM

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Let NHRA get out of their deal with espn and get hooked up wit MAVTV and I think things might change gor the better !! It could not get worse.........:-(

Adger Smith 03-11-2015 11:50 PM

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Everything is too sanitized. It's not about being squeaky clean any more. It is about "Reality" and real personality people can identify with.. You know, the guy that lives down the street that.... That is what sells. The ship is sailing away from port.

SStockDart 03-12-2015 12:58 AM

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Sometimes it is unfortunate that NHRA is the "standard bearer" for drag racing. In the real world, someone will promote "the fastest sport on wheels"....and others will complain about it.... How would one promote 200 MPH drag cars when NASCAR's do it for 200 laps. Very simply, NHRA has to separate themselves.....and that is done with 300 MPH fuel cars. I am a sportsman racer for over 50 years. The world has changed, a kid today doesn't know a 68 Hemi Dart from a Toyota....I say, let's be thankful for what we have.

ALMACK 03-12-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 464579)
Sometimes it is unfortunate that NHRA is the "standard bearer" for drag racing. In the real world, someone will promote "the fastest sport on wheels"....and others will complain about it.... How would one promote 200 MPH drag cars when NASCAR's do it for 200 laps. Very simply, NHRA has to separate themselves.....and that is done with 300 MPH fuel cars. I am a sportsman racer for over 50 years. The world has changed, a kid today doesn't know a 68 Hemi Dart from a Toyota....I say, let's be thankful for what we have.


^^ Yep, these are great days indeed for gearheads. Lots of different forms of racing.

I agree that NHRA might be missing a fantastic opportunity to expand by including the arm drop/ no time type grudge racing.
I could never afford the heads up type of racing, but it is fun to watch.

But, NHRA is what it is and most likely will never stray away from their comfort zone.
Might be good, might be bad.

But one thing is for sure...we live in the greatest country in the world when it comes to motorsports. :)

cgall 03-12-2015 09:07 AM

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The Pinks All Out format might look cool on TV, but it is not for NHRA class racers. The entrants pay $50 or so entry depending on the track, and there is no guarantee that you will be in the show. After 2 or 3 time runs, the show producers pick 16 cars that are close together in ET. Usually the biggest group is in the 10.00 to 10.50 range. The payout is winner-take-all. I would not waste my time and money entering an event where the qualifiers are based on these parameters. I need to have a legitimate shot at taking home some money every time I race to keep my racing program alive.

Rusty Davenport 03-12-2015 09:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 464579)
Sometimes it is unfortunate that NHRA is the "standard bearer" for drag racing. In the real world, someone will promote "the fastest sport on wheels"....and others will complain about it.... How would one promote 200 MPH drag cars when NASCAR's do it for 200 laps. Very simply, NHRA has to separate themselves.....and that is done with 300 MPH fuel cars. I am a sportsman racer for over 50 years. The world has changed, a kid today doesn't know a 68 Hemi Dart from a Toyota....I say, let's be thankful for what we have.

Well said.......NHRA drag racing does have to seperate themselves this is so true. Lets be very thankful for what we have. I'm happy NHRA is not getting on a roller coaster to the "dark side" reality TV culture that some thinks NHRA needs. Let them race how the want to....seperately.

jwsamuel 03-12-2015 10:31 AM

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I've always thought that with a new race and winner every 30 to 60 seconds, drag racing should promote itself as the best sport for people who have Attention Deficit Disorder. At most, you pay attention for 16 seconds or so, then you take a break, then you watch a whole new event!

Shaun Quill 03-12-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cicero819 (Post 464537)
I have a question for NHRA. Who is in charge of creativity at NHRA. I just finish watching on of the early Pinks all out from Virginia and couldn't help notice the incredible fun the racers and fans(a lot of them) were having. Don't tell me that we couldn't come up with something as competitive as an Arm Drop? Now with the controversy with Street Racer(Dumb Dumber). NHRA should be on top of this with some intelligent programming towards Racers, Fan and would be participants. Competition Eliminator, Stock &Super Stock has all the Diva's, premadonnas,we have Cooters, Swampers, Wife and Husbands of the South,North,East $West, also Low Rollers and High Rollers, people who can talk from under the car and over the car, We even have nudity, RV's and animal lovers(should give us some PETA love). Forget the pro's you're loosing a fortune paying ESPN 3 for broadcasting that garbage. Promote the little guy, bracket racing(cars only, no tubes) would be an improvement over the pro crap. Come on NHRA get with the program! Claude Ruel


It'll never happen, but just bringing back modified would help that a lot.

Harry 6674 03-12-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cgall (Post 464592)
The Pinks All Out format might look cool on TV, but it is not for NHRA class racers. The entrants pay $50 or so entry depending on the track, and there is no guarantee that you will be in the show. After 2 or 3 time runs, the show producers pick 16 cars that are close together in ET. Usually the biggest group is in the 10.00 to 10.50 range. The payout is winner-take-all. I would not waste my time and money entering an event where the qualifiers are based on these parameters. I need to have a legitimate shot at taking home some money every time I race to keep my racing program alive.

I feel for you dude. If I had to depend on my winnings to race I would have been done in the back in the sixties. It's a hobby to me. I do it because I love it not because of the chance to win money. There are cheaper ways to make money.

SSGT Mustang 03-12-2015 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 464579)
The world has changed, a kid today doesn't know a 68 Hemi Dart from a Toyota....I say, let's be thankful for what we have.

Absolutely. On both accounts. Everyone has an idea about how to fix NHRA, when class racing is withering on the vine. I don't see a reversal of that trend any time soon. Probably never. We may be the last of the breed.

I'm curious about the statistics. How many young people have shown up as new drivers in class racing since 2010? How many between 18-24, how many 25-34, how many 35-42, etc? Break it out by division, then graph it. Heck, the analysis should probably go back to 2000 or even earlier.

We may not like what we see.

Times have changed, and we definitely should be thankful for what we have now.

vic guilmino 03-12-2015 05:49 PM

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if you do not like nhra (which i do) then race some were else
this is a sportsman board stock and super stock

Ed Wright 03-12-2015 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vic guilmino (Post 464643)
if you do not like nhra (which i do) then race some were else
this is a sportsman board stock and super stock

x47!

cicero819 03-13-2015 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vic guilmino (Post 464643)
if you do not like nhra (which i do) then race some were else
this is a sportsman board stock and super stock

Vic, I've been a number one fan of NHRA since I was in short pants but it doesn't mean that someone is sleeping at the switch or someone is selling us short. I have been promoting and preserving our sport through my Jr Stocker Facebook that many have enjoyed reliving the way it use to be but sometimes, you have to be progressive and move forward with new idea when old ones do not work.I look at the cost that NHRA is paying to promote the pros(at a phenomenon price) which means if you have to pay someone to broadcast your junk, it must not be that good in the first place. I hope you all understand, what I was trying to say here. Nhra could produce a program with that just right producer that can bring the best and wholesome NHRA participants can bring. What better than wheels-up racing, side by side and to the fraction racing. I gave Pinks all out as an example(You have to give them their fair share of taps on the back), take the time and watch a segment, the crowd is there from beginning to end, so don't tell me I'm full of it. They can produce one hell of a show if they try! You might not have anyone go out and build a class car but you might just win a fan for life.Claude Ruel

joe cool 03-18-2015 06:45 PM

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A few years ago when Pinks was in its heyday I talked to several couples who drove hundreds of miles to a pinks show. I ask if they had been to Topeka for the Nationals( 128 miles ) they said no.
When I ask what they liked about the pinks show they said everybody was happy and they had a good ,fun time.
Just look at all the drag race forums on the net ,and all you see is people who are bitching about NHRA and almost everything else.
If something don't change its going to keep up a downward spiral.I would rather have my local track pack the stands with a Pinks show as watch the 30 spectators who show up on a normal race night.At least they can pay their bills.
The entertainment media is changing ,drag racers can change with it or watch it go down the tubes.
Most spectators do not know or care about the detail and talent that goes into a Class legal car.Some tracks are getting a second wind with Nostalgia events, but there are no young people at these. When we die the at venue will also.
Just my opinion ,I'm just a poor bracket racer.

600ci 03-18-2015 06:53 PM

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something is on the horizon :eek:

Troy Pourciau 03-18-2015 07:55 PM

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people gonna complain and gripe as long as negative people will listen to them.

this is the line to get in NPR on tuesday.

Dan Fahey 03-19-2015 02:22 PM

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I hear the complaints. Got a bunch too. However NHRA always seems to pull in tons of racers. All of their Meets are packed. At least from what I can see.

They have successfully migrated to the new cars. The fresh blood is taking its own personality and direction.

I agree with an earlier comment to bring back Modified Production.
Pro Stock is waning but has their following.
Pinks was very Creative and so is the Outlaw Drag Racing.
Wish they would bring back Pure Stock.
See more NHRA races on TV.
Wish they would show the Stockers, SS and Comp racing.
Especially the Heads up Qualifying.
The general public would get that.

If they cannot make it available for TV put it on Internet TV with some announcer building up each race like a Chris Economaki did with ABC in the 70;'s/80's.

He took the drudgery away from the sport and added the passion.

Dan

600ci 03-20-2015 10:58 AM

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something is on the horizon :eek:

Troy Pourciau 03-23-2015 06:56 PM

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This was the vehicle pit pass for NHRA Cajun Sportsnationals @ No Prob;em Raceway 3-20-15.... It reads NHRA drags street legal style,


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