Fake battery, dq or not
 

What is the final outcome of getting caught with a fake battery during tech or anytime during a race? At some races you go home, others you get a slap on the wrist. I understand there was one caught at Epping this week. Did the racer get to change the battery or was it a disqualification?

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Here's the NHRA's response, as of 5/26/2015 -

"The NHRA disqualified a competitor from the 2015 Summit Racing Equipment NHRA Southern Nationals at Atlanta Dragway for violating NHRA Rules, particularly Section 10A, page 10 of the 2015 NHRA Rulebook under Electrical. Tech inspectors discovered a false battery was installed. In addition to the disqualification the competitor will receive zero points for the event and the event will count towards his quota. The disqualification is not appealable."

The way I interpret the above statement is that if you show up to an NHRA-sanctioned event with a false/dummy/fake battery installed in your race-car, and are caught, you pack-up and go home!

You obviously can avoid any drama by not having a false/dummy/fake battery installed in your race-car, knowing that the Tech Inspectors have been checking for this, but some folks must think that they'll never get caught!

I not sure what happened at Epping.

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Mr crew chief , you have answered your own question. At some races ( Atlanta Nat. Event ) a racer was DQ'ed , but at another race that same weekend a racer was allowed to install another battery. It is definately not a Stocker Secret any more. M.J.

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It happened again at Epping and resulted in a DQ

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I heard it had a lot to with how your name was spelt.

RJ

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I don't know what the guide line's are but I saw the NHRA Tech Inspector look very closely at my son's stocker battery's and made reference to the earlier DQ here at Epping

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And the winner is......RJ Sledge.....kinda like dropping ice bags on the track at Las Vegas ,prompting a cleanup by track workers, but since you are involved in promoting a race at Las Vegas the following week all is good.All we ask for is some Consistency guys. .??M.J.

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MJ consistency from NHRA will never work.....makes too much sense.

RJ

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Here's a scenario for you. Class runoff, one guy forgets to turn fan on in car. Near finish line he sprays the windshield of the other car. At end of track NHRA personnel wave offending car off track and put something under car ( not sure what it was). Should he be tossed for putting foreign substance on track surface?
As far as bogus battery, DQ should be mandatory, no if's and's or but's.

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Do you know who was DQed?

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Ok how about this crazy scenario, you have 2 batteries and run a class that you can't get to the minimum cause you are out of shape (heavy). You have a heads up and take the rear battery out, is that legal???? You don't have to have 2 batteries but if you have one it has to be up front? You can only make minimum weight for that class with one battery in the front. Survey says....

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Yes, you may take the REAR battery out. Nowhere does it say you must have a rear battery unless it is there from the factory. Jim

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Maybe they should have stopped by a quality automotive shop and had everything checked out.

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Bob

This is a car I own
I gave this car a few years ago to a racer to drive and run for me as I had another I was racing
This is my fault and not the driver who had the car as I never told him about the front battery
it is sad that nhra picks who they kick
But in the end Its the nhra play ground and they can do what they want
With all the things allowed they choose something this foolish to worry about…..
So again I am sorry to the racer he is a great guy and i should of told him

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At Englishtown tech inspector checked our front battery which was Ok. He told me that the word had been put out awhile back about these batteries. He said if you show up with one before the race (in tech) or during the race and they find it you are done. Now this was a national event I don't know what will happen at a divisional although it should be the same penalty.

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Same here. Bottom line fake battery you are done.

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That fake battery deal has been around a very long time. The '69 Nova Stocker I bought and raced 20 years ago had one in it. I removed it and the trunk battery. Put a lightweight battery up front. I got DQ'ed once for improperly secured ballast in the trunk. Had weight in there not in a box as required. Long stupid story how that happened but it got me thrown out after winning rd 1 at a National event. I apologized and took my punishment and moved on. Added a second weight box after that one. Then sold the car. Rules are rules and should be enforced equally and at all events.

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Stupid question What is a fake battery ?

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I'm assuming a display battery.

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Fake battery, no guts, TOM

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why would you put a fake battery into a car "unless it is to circumvent the rules" ????

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maybe the people with fake battery's up front just need to work on the suspension and make the car leave with a real battery in it. lmao

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2 more just got caught

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This might be a dumb question..What is the rule for cut off switches in Stock? placed in rear of car? I have seen cut off switches under the hood which is totally useless in an accident.

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^^like!

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Taking 35-40 lbs. off the nose and moving it to the rear is obviously worth something. Last year at Epping they found 2 fake battery's but let them fix it. Since then they have dq'd anyone caught.

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If you have a rear battery you must have a shut off in the rear for that battery. Your front battery can (should) have a shut off in the front under the hood. Jim

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How is a fake battery not outright cheating?

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i have never seen a fake battery be responsible for winning a race

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That makes it OK?

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Does going 1.50 under and not getting horsepower like the rest of the same class make it ok? stfu

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I've been accused of having a fake driver in my car, but that's a whole different issue. Mickey, as usual, your posts leave me both enlightened and perplexed all at the same time. Keep them coming!

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When are they going to start checking for fake engines???

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Thanks Lyn, all you did was just alert tech about one of the best kept secrets.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA just scrapped my program

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You been cheating, Mickey? LMAO

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I took the pistons out of mine, is that legal?

JimR

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It would seem a fake battery would be an advantage in a heads up run getting down to minimum weight.

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Its not the most offensive bending of the rules that goes on, but likely one of the easiest to detect. If they want to really send the message, they will add the six month vacation that comes with other clearly intentional DQ offenses.

Eric

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Eric giving people vacations for violations is counterproductive to padding the bottom line at NHRA. I believe they will start just letting the "violator" pay a $fine get it corrected, run the race and then they can see his contribution for the next race he enters.

RJ

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You only have to run 1 battery in stock in it's stock location. You are allowed to run a 2nd battery in the trunk, if you choose to.The advantage is making the 40? lb battery under the hood weigh nothing and putting that weight over the rear. It can be a nice assist with traction on a marginal track.